George Lucas on a Bench
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Making rides less "Scary" to make them more "Inclusive" is going to neuter a lot of the good stuff.
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Any truth to any of this? (The latest on Tomorrowland Rumors following the pandemic)
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Brer Oswald
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Tomorrowland at Magic Kingdom is much better. Better Space Mountain (IMO). Peoplemover. CoP. It’s getting Tron.
The only weak links are Speedway, Laugh Floor, and Buzz.
britain
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The number one reason TL is considered broken is because of the rusting Rocket Rod track weaving its way throughout the land, unused for TWENTY YEARS. It’s akin to having NO boats of any kind on the Rivers of America for twenty years. Wouldn’t Frontierland be operationally fine, but feel broken?
Secondarily, there are areas that scream “I haven’t been used properly for what I was designed for in decades,” all around the Space Mountain complex: StarCade, Tomorrowland Path of the Jedi Theater, and all the outdoor pizza seating - not to mention the unused upstairs at the Carousel Theater / Star Wars Launch Bay.
If all they did was tear down the Rocket Rod tracks, and give those awkward areas a delightful purpose, Tomorrowland would feel fine.
el_super
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Strongly disagree on Space Mountain. The Peoplemover is nice, but everything else in Tomorrowland aside from Space and the Peoplemover is a miss for me. Carousel of Progress is nice for the history of it, but it seriously either needs an upgrade or a downgrade to make much sense in the context of Tomorrowland.
I've been on Tron in Shanghai. It's OK, but it's feels just as out of place as the other attractions in Tomorrowland.
el_super
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Mostly I agree. Tomorrowland isn't really broken, the (mostly) empty carousel theater is. I can pretty much excuse the Rocket Rod tracks because, unless you've been around for a long time, you probably don't even know that an attraction was up there at all.
Brer Oswald
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I’m just not sure what would make Disneyland’s Tomorrowland better? Space Mountain preference is up for debate. The only thing that Disneyland has that MK doesn’t is Star Tours...which is in DHS, and the subs, which have been marked as “ not pulling their weight”.
The subs are dead, I don't see how they can ever reopen after COVID.....talk about a breeding ground for disease of all shapes and forms.
No, Magic Kingdoms space mountain is literally Matterhorn in the dark with the sides switched. Disneyland's Space is far superior with a great soundtrack.
Brer Oswald
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*in your opinion
Californian Elitist
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Tomorrowland is trash.
Brer Oswald
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It needs help. There’s no question about it.
BayouShack
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The best ride in Tomorrowland is the DLRR leg that follows the Tomorrowland station!
Too Many Hats
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That’s what’s so great about it!
el_super
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Yeah ... that's kind of the point: Disneyland's Tomorrowland has the Submarines and Monorail and Star Tours, but somehow it's broken and needs to be fixed? If any Tomorrowland needs to be fixed, it's the one that relies on Stitch's Great Escape and Monsters Inc Laugh Floor.
chadwpalm
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Love or hate what this Alex guy is rumoring about, but he did raise one interesting point. This isn't 1983 anymore and Disney is definitely not going to shut down an entire land at one time. With prices the way they are, guests are not going to enjoy paying full price for a diminished experience, and we know Disney isn't going to reduce prices for it either.
Regardless of whether it's a whole new reimagined land, or simple refreshes, they are going to have to do it piecemeal as that is just way too big of an area to close all at once.
Regardless of whether it's a whole new reimagined land, or simple refreshes, they are going to have to do it piecemeal as that is just way too big of an area to close all at once.
Brer Oswald
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But it doesn’t rely on MILF or Stitch (closed). It relies on Space Mountain, Peoplemover, and COP, two of which DL doesn’t have. Buzz is lame on both coasts. I’ve heard mixed things about the Subs. Star Tours is at another park.
MK Tomorrowland also looks nicer
Too Many Hats
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Perfectly summarized. Disneyland’s Tomorrowland feels underutilized, with a lot of wasted or arbitrarily-used space. Compare that with the western side of the park, where space is utilized astonishingly efficiently.
britain
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And in theory I’m fine with phases, as long as there still is an inspired master plan. MK’s Tomorrowland revision is happening in phases but the design choices (and the budgets) seem to change direction every year.
el_super
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But it's not at Disneyland, and that's what I don't understand with the concept of DL's Tomorrowland being broken. If we went by the straight number of attractions between the two, wouldn't Disneyland win? Past that you can go on and argue that Launch Bay and Path of the Jedi aren't really attractions, but as far as quality goes, doesn't Disneyland win again? Subs, Monorail, Space and Star Tours all opened as E tickets - so does the MK have 4 E ticket level Tomorrowland attractions? Maybe you can argue they will have two soon?
I understand that one could make the case that the Monorail and Subs are not E tickets any longer, but do we really want to pair them up to Stitch and Monster's Inc? And how many plans for "fixing" Tomorrowland advocate for keeping those two attractions in place out of nostalgia?
So what exactly needs to be "fixed" about Tomorrowland? The attraction count? The attraction density? Is it an issue with individual attractions? Or is it just the overall theme of the land? Lot of people seem to agree it's broken but not agree on the solution.
I will say that I like some of the more recent changes, but they're basically just following DL's footsteps in reverting back to a previous look and stripping away an past overlay.