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Any Bets on What Comes After Galaxy's Edge?
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HauntedMansionFLA
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Would a current IP in DHS go there or something different?
A new overlay is one of a few options being banded about.
HauntedMansionFLA
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Interesting. Thanks!
rct247
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Animation Courtyard is one of the more stale areas of park without much identity. Launch Bay really was the end of Animation Courtyard as Animation Courtyard. I think realistically in the short term a replacement for Mermaid will be what they go with until they are ready to demo most of that area for an expansion that connects with Sunset. I think the biggest hurddle her will actually be the Feature Animation multi-story office building that literally backs up and connects to the Magic of Disney Animation/Launch Bay building. That's a huge building that I don't see go anywhere, but will have to be hidden.
What I'm most curious about is the direction of Echo Lake/ Commissary Lane to Grand Avenue. Muppets, Frozen, Indy, Star Tours, Backlot Express, ABC Commissary, Path of the Jedi...all of these are easily replaced or demolished. Is Grand Avenue setting us up for what else might appear in the area or is it just a random decision to repurpose what was in the in area? (Not that Grand Avenue is a theme, but it gives us a time and place.)
Personally, my thoughts are that Indy will leave Studios and Echo Lake / Star Tours opens up for more of a Marvel area when they secure the rights. It will be urban and will transition the time periods perhaps. Commissary Lane though... So many ideas for a thread in the Imagineering part of the forum.
What I'm most curious about is the direction of Echo Lake/ Commissary Lane to Grand Avenue. Muppets, Frozen, Indy, Star Tours, Backlot Express, ABC Commissary, Path of the Jedi...all of these are easily replaced or demolished. Is Grand Avenue setting us up for what else might appear in the area or is it just a random decision to repurpose what was in the in area? (Not that Grand Avenue is a theme, but it gives us a time and place.)
Personally, my thoughts are that Indy will leave Studios and Echo Lake / Star Tours opens up for more of a Marvel area when they secure the rights. It will be urban and will transition the time periods perhaps. Commissary Lane though... So many ideas for a thread in the Imagineering part of the forum.
drod1985
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This is my dream, but Universal’s Marvel deal is so good that I can’t see it being given up or altered.
But hey, I thought the same thing about Spider-man and the MCU, and now here we are. Stranger things have happened.
Phicinfan
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To be demolished and then replaced by something else? Or just demolished?
And any chance the ride part would be used elsewhere?
No definites yet.
UpAllNight
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Are they holding off on further rides for DHS until they can judge how successful Star Wars is, or is there an acceptance that they need to do more already?
I’m concerned with what they’re going to do to the rest of the Star Wars areas that really need to go by the time the new land opens. I know it’s been mentioned for updates for the night show, but for me that’s also overkill when there’s an entire land dedicated to it.
Timothy_Q
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I agree that the other SW stuff in the park doesn't work, from a thematic standpoint, once SWL opens.
But that stuff is needed in the first year(s?) of operation of the land, as "extra SW stuff" for all the people visiting DHS just for the land.
Star Tours will work as the unofficial 3rd ride of the land, helping absorb the SW crowds
UpAllNight
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I mean it makes sense, but it’s a scattered mess.
I find it frustrating that despite some big investment there’s still so many questions that need answering about this park. It was meant to be a relaunch, and the changes so far don’t warrant that title. The 3 decade old shows, Star Wars scattered everywhere, the wasted muppet area, the general randomness of having Toy Story Land and not utilising the vast array of other (very popular sure hit) Pixar properties anywhere, the overarching theme and the randomness of Indiana zjones where we’ll still be learning how to make movies rather than being part of them. It’s just a mess still, and I don’t know if it’s going to take them another 20 years to fix.
At times at fans we’re far too critical of Disney over everything, but for the price they charge to get in these parks, DHS is still an absolute shambles. There’ll be some world class rides here no doubt, but that in itself does not make a park.
eddie104
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I feel the same way a lot of the times but we have to remember when this park first opened it wasn't suppose to be a theme park but more of educational area of how movies are made. I think them opening TSL and now GE is the start of them transforming DHS into a full day park of attractions and rides people can enjoy. There is tons of IPs they can take advantage of that can be placed in this park but first we need to get past the initial construction of the current projects.
Timothy_Q
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Agreed on all accounts.
SirLink
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Funny enough this topic should exist back at a PC from 14 days in O-Town - let me tell you Sudios management are scared when SWGE opens. Also some F+B decisions that are head scratchers, however, as people always acuse me of a gloomer come 2030 it should be a complete park.
But the entire Studios Makeover has been an outright adventure of stupidity from ops to management to WDI. They are all to blame.
But the entire Studios Makeover has been an outright adventure of stupidity from ops to management to WDI. They are all to blame.
Theme Park Horizons
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They should add a larger Batuu scene in Star Tours so they can market it in a way to make th crowds go there instead of inside GE.
doctornick
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Who knows, but Muppet Babies seems pretty popular. I don't think our puppet friends are going away for a while.
Maeryk
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The contract isn't cancellable without a valid legal reason.. and all US has to do to fulfill it is keep their "land" with it's IP families open and in running condition. It's a no brainer for them to keep the contract, and it doesn't have a sunset.. "in perpetuity". I don't see them selling the rights back (abandoning the contract). They get all the X men, all the Avengers, All the Spidey and FF families.. and keep them out of the hands of the competition.
If anything, expect Disney to go ahead with lesser known characters or start coming up with new Marvel characters so they can put them in their parks. GotG (possibly minus Drax, as he's potentially a FF tie in), Dr Strange, whoever they roll in for the next phase of the MCU.
Maeryk
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I was there in the 70s and 80s. I'm glad to see them moving forward, rather than just slapping slight upgrades on really old and dated rides.
I may well be the odd man out with my opinion, and that's fine.. but Epcot when it opened was fantastic. Everything was shiny and new and futuristic.. and then the future caught up to it with a vengeance. At this point, realistically, they can't stay "ahead" of the curve. From when they design a new "future" attraction to when the paint dries, it's very likely it will already have been passed by reality. That happened with Communicore, as the most obvious example. Much of it was also driven by the 70s fad science and where everyone was convinced we would be.. I can clearly remember the magazines (like Omni) promising us farming in space, and on the ocean floor within decades.. we aren't farming in either of those places. Energy initially was an amazing ride. Then they messed it up with Ellen (couldn't stand that update.. die mad about it) and then even that got dated.
I get the nostalgia. I loved Horizons. I loved Energy. But really, can you imagine riding Horizons today? Afros on the ocean floor and bubble baths in space? If it was still here, people would be howling about how dated and hokey it is. Energy suffered the same fate. When it was the cutting edge of tech, it looked amazing. When it closed it just looked like the sort of animatronics your local park drags out for halloween theming. I know it sounds harsh.. but it's true.
Same with GMR. Those of us of a certain age love it. But the parks are not fixed in time. How many kids today do you think know who Busby Berkely is? Or have even seen half the movies that ride references? Plus with licensing issues due to TCM no longer being associated, their choices were to attempt to remake it with properties they actually own, or just bag it and come up with something that is more appealing to todays up and coming park lifers.
The facts, as I see them, are that those of us who are already hooked on Disney, will continue going. We will and moan and say how much it sucks, but we will still go. Where they have to set the hooks are our kids. And there are a LOT of people out there currently, of a certain generation, who sneer at Disney as "the kids park" where you go to meet princesses and get driven insane by Small World.
So Disney, whether right or wrong, has done the market research, and realizes they either need rides that arent fixed in a certain time period (mickey is timeless.. AND has never had his own ride), or are competitive with the guys down the road. As much as people say "it's a different game", it's really not for that crucial demographic who could do either.. and both are competing for their money.
That said, I don't want Disney to turn into all 4D vr rides. But they could use a few more cutting edge thrill rides (Tron, GotG, for example, with what appears to be a groundbreaking ride system) that are family friendly enough to still appeal to old farts like me, but also appeal to that 20-30 year old crowd who like to be aloof and hate on stuff.
I don't miss any of what they have removed at DHS. SoA was boring. Backlot was a half-arsed attempt at the Universal tour, and fell pretty flat. GMR was fun, but it was really really dated, and in desperate need of a complete redo.
Pixar isn't going anywhere, and is really kid oriented.. so of course they dropped in a kiddy coaster and a modified Whip. That park had almost nothing in rides for younger kids who don't do thrill rides. Now it has two more, and room for expansion down the road.
Star Wars is like, the second biggest IP in the world (behind pokemon, believe it or not) and setting SW:GE as not tied to any of the movies gives them a bit of insulation for the travesties that have been pumped in recent years (Solo and Rogue One aside.. and solo only because it's a really good Firefly remake) and leave them room to plug in all the animated and TV stuff as that comes out over the next couple years.
But back to the main point you raised: At least some of us realize the parks have to evolve and move forward. Epcot is my touchstone. If they would just bring back all the water and the lights that made it look like a floating city of the future, rather than a squat Russian military bunker, I'd be happy. The ride changes are just icing on the cake.
Maeryk
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Worlds of Henson.. Muppets, labyrinth, dark crystal (topical, the prequel is coming out soon)..