Annoying Kids Park Chart

Gail Hayden

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bigbadwolf said:
They should have some CM announce it clearly... "I am warning all the parents with young children, this is a very intense 3D movie, so leave now if your children might cry, becuase it will ruin evryone elses experience!" no thats just sounds to mean... undisney like... :fork:

It is certainly a lot nicer than what goes through my mind and would love to say. :)
 

bigbadwolf

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Gail Hayden said:
It is certainly a lot nicer than what goes through my mind and would love to say. :)

Oh i know what you mean... but I have so much tolerane... It seems to bother my mother more, she yells out very quickly for the parent to hear-"God could you make your child shutup or just leave." She just has guts to say it outloud.... lol
 

Gail Hayden

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bigbadwolf said:
lol... I guess... We don't know what was going in his head... He was insane, sorry to say this, but genius. not all geniuses have to be good. He was a horrible person... So yeah Hitler is a bigot and so am I becuase I called him one, but I am not a horrible bigot like he was. I was just careless to think about others who have excuses and I called Hitler a bigot on a wdwmagic forum thread on Jan. 16th 2005. Hitler was a very bad bigot, who well... we all know what he did.

Is there a "good bigot"? It follows that not geniuses are good since not all people are good. Not sure if I would agree that Hitler was a genius, he most certainly was a horrible person. I think your definition of a bigot needs some fine tuning.
 

Gail Hayden

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bigbadwolf said:
Oh i know what you mean... but I have so much tolerane... It seems to bother my mother more, she yells out very quickly for the parent to hear-"God could you make your child shutup or just leave." She just has guts to say it outloud.... lol

I have been known to say similar things on airplanes.
 

bigbadwolf

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Gail Hayden said:
Is there a "good bigot"? It follows that not geniuses are good since not all people are good. Not sure if I would agree that Hitler was a genius, he most certainly was a horrible person. I think your definition of a bigot needs some fine tuning.

When I mean good or bad bigot... I mean the level of how much they are a bigot. So Hitler is a good bigot because he was a good at being careless about people. And he is a genius because look how far he got. He lead his own army... and a country... So yeah.. he has to be.. Hes the opostie of Martin Luther King... think of it that way. Wait isn't Martin Luther King day tomorrow? lol
 

Gail Hayden

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bigbadwolf said:
When I mean good or bad bigot... I mean the level of how much they are a bigot. So Hitler is a good bigot because he was a good at being careless about people. And he is a genius because look how far he got. He lead his own army... and a country... So yeah.. he has to be.. Hes the opostie of Martin Luther King... think of it that way. Wait isn't Martin Luther King day tomorrow? lol

Your post made me chuckle. without becoming political in anyway, we have had a few presidents who lead a country and the army and were far from being a genius, in fact I am amazed they had enough intelligence to tie their shoes.
Being a bigot is like being pregnant. There is no being a little pregnant, you are or you are not. Same with a bigot, you either are one or you are not.
He was anything but careless with people, he was, indeed intent on making a very carefully planned master race. He was a thoughtless murderer and a monster. Jimmy Jones managed to brainwash hundreds of people and convinced them to drink grape koolaid with poison in it, that did not make him a genius, it made him and excellent brainwasher (is there any such word?). There are TV Evangilists that bilk millions of people out of millions of dollars, they are not geniuses, they are adept at brainwashing. By being the opposite of MLK, are you stating that King was a good bigot? And, yes, MKL day is today. Dee does not work on MKL day. Not sure what you find funny about MLK day, however..
I think, in order to understand you better, I would request that you define what you mean by being careless with people. I think I then would better understand you. :) If your definition of genius is : a person who influences another for good or bad, then I would agree Hitler was one. If it is because you believe he had a very high IQ, then I would disagree.
I would like to be on the same page with you in these discussions. :)
 

wdwmagic

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This thread has gone completely off subject. Guys please, if you want to discuss things that are so far off topic, please use Private Messaging or email. Thanks.
 

MouseMadness

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bigbadwolf said:
When I meant low IQs... I do not mean everybody... lol I mean most... And yeah I believe people who go to Animal Kingdom are more smarter then people who go to Magic Kingdom.

Okay, sometimes jokes get lost on me, so please tell me this was on purpose. More smarter... nice.

Anyway, I let my 9 year old sit in the stroller last trip. How infuriating is that? In fact, I let all four of them ride in a stroller (that I don't bang into people's ankles) because it prevents them from having a lot of these meltdowns you all get so cranky about as well as it helps us to keep track of where they all are. Much scarier to me than meltdowns in parks had by overstimulated children whose parents won't let them go to the hotel and rest because they wanna get their money's worth is these sickos who are after them to do God only knows what. But then I will get bitched about because my kids are "too old" for strollers. So to this topic and this thread I say :rolleyes: and whatever. Perhaps the reason I don't see all these meltdowns everybody else does is because I'm focusing on my kids and my trip and what WE need, not so much worrying about others. Ultimately what everybody else does and thinks doesn't really matter, and I wish everybody luck with their perfect children in this oh so imperfect world. :wave:
 

WDWFREAK53

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MouseMadness said:
Okay, sometimes jokes get lost on me, so please tell me this was on purpose. More smarter... nice.

Anyway, I let my 9 year old sit in the stroller last trip. How infuriating is that? In fact, I let all four of them ride in a stroller (that I don't bang into people's ankles) because it prevents them from having a lot of these meltdowns you all get so cranky about as well as it helps us to keep track of where they all are. Much scarier to me than meltdowns in parks had by overstimulated children whose parents won't let them go to the hotel and rest because they wanna get their money's worth is these sickos who are after them to do God only knows what. But then I will get bitched about because my kids are "too old" for strollers. So to this topic and this thread I say :rolleyes: and whatever. Perhaps the reason I don't see all these meltdowns everybody else does is because I'm focusing on my kids and my trip and what WE need, not so much worrying about others. Ultimately what everybody else does and thinks doesn't really matter, and I wish everybody luck with their perfect children in this oh so imperfect world. :wave:

...and the MILF has spoken! :sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy:

Thank you Christy...well said! (and no, that's not a joke). Thank you for being a good parent...and concentrating on your own family and not worrying about others. More should be like you! :wave:
 

The Mom

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I have been a "childless" person, a mother of young children, and am now a mother of one adult child, and one "tween."

All I can say is I look back and laugh at the different ideas I had about raising children! :lol: I'm sure that in the future I will laugh about my current ideas, and will turn into one of those "MY children would never get away with THAT!" grandmothers.

Children can be totally unpredictable, and react in very surprising ways in strange (which includes WDW for most families) surroundings, especially if they are being exposed to different foods and stimuli.

I've been blessed with generally easy going children who have been very easy to discipline, at least in public. :animwink: But even they have had their moments when they've pushed me to my limits; fortunately, most of those moments were in private, and never at WDW. :lol:

Edited to add:

I agree that the MK is the most annoying park. I myself get burned out with the crowd, noise, etc after only a few hours and have to leave; I can only imagine what a young child is feeling!
 

SpongeScott

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Mr. Wolf,

I have tried my best to get through this thread and I've read all the comments. I am assuming that your public profile is correct. Assuming so, I see that in three months, you will turn 19 years old. Assuming you will be 19 years old, I also assume that you do not have any children of your own. So, until you have your own children, until you raise them, and until you take them to a Disney park, perhaps it would be best if you refrained from making extremely generalized statements about children and parenting. I am amazed at those without children--who are barely removed from being children themselves--who think they are child-rearing experts and know it all. You have no grounds on which to cast judgment, you have no grounds on which to spew your prejudices.

I suggest that you continue to enjoy life, find you a sweetheart of a girl, fall in love with her, get married, be fruitful and multiply, raise your offspring, and then revisit this thread in 15-20 years for more of your renderings.

BTW, I have a 15 and a 12 year old and I'm 43 years old. I speak from experience.
 

bigbadwolf

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SpongeScott said:
Mr. Wolf,

I have tried my best to get through this thread and I've read all the comments. I am assuming that your public profile is correct. Assuming so, I see that in three months, you will turn 19 years old. Assuming you will be 19 years old, I also assume that you do not have any children of your own. So, until you have your own children, until you raise them, and until you take them to a Disney park, perhaps it would be best if you refrained from making extremely generalized statements about children and parenting. I am amazed at those without children--who are barely removed from being children themselves--who think they are child-rearing experts and know it all. You have no grounds on which to cast judgment, you have no grounds on which to spew your prejudices.

I suggest that you continue to enjoy life, find you a sweetheart of a girl, fall in love with her, get married, be fruitful and multiply, raise your offspring, and then revisit this thread in 15-20 years for more of your renderings.

BTW, I have a 15 and a 12 year old and I'm 43 years old. I speak from experience.
Oh I do not have children... But If I ever do I will make sure they will not be screaming for everything they need or want. I will teach them to ask me, that makes sense? right? I do not believe children have some kind of soul that makes them all act different, it is the way you raise them. Every parent on here will probably feel differently, because they have children and they all have different types of experiences. Plus most parents think thier children are more perfect then others. So what about people who do not have children and do not have experinces? Maybe they would try to dicuss something like this? Who knows... But the big question is... Why do most of you care so much about me talking about children if I do not have children? Why did all of you try to argue with me, but not just let it slide and let this whole thread be ignored? But you continue to let this happen... you all are still correcting me like it some important thing, like I have some control over your kids and what you do to them? Like I am some threat that your kids wont be allowed to sit in a stroller at the age of 5? no... I just wanted to discuss it... For some odd reason it bothers most of you because maybe you do these things? I do not know. Or maybe you are trying to guide me the right way? I do not know. Maybe I should of wrote for the title of this thread also-Not for parents to discuss? This might of prevented any of you to discuss this? Maybe...? Just to tell you also... I do not just see what is going on in the parks... I see it everywhere I have to go... The mall, the movies, the dentist, the school, a airplane, and the hospital. Even at a 7-11 I have seen this.. All have gotten worse each year. I cannot stand going to these places anymore because of screaming children. Why do they scream? Why do they just tell their parents something is wrong? Maybe it is because the parent raise them that way? Allowing thier children to continue to scream until they get what they want is poor parenting skills. Sorry to say it... but it is true and right in their faces.

Plus I will stop after this last post because I am getting tired of discussing this... I know I am not going to win this arguement because the ones I am argueing with all have kids, and it is clear to me you do not like a non parent discussing a topic like this. And I can care less if I am called a bigot, because this is a thread on the internet. Plus words are not as powerful as actions... So aagain the defenition-One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. Think about it... I am a bigot because I cannot care about how parents feel because I do not have kids. But the parents on here are bigots because they do not all know what it feels like how to not have children, and they do not care for what I have to say.


So again.. I do not care for this... and I will not reply to this anymore... this is the last post on my thread I started, which turned into how parents feel about thier children and I have no right to step in and say anything.
 

bigbadwolf

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The Mom said:
I have been a "childless" person, a mother of young children, and am now a mother of one adult child, and one "tween."

All I can say is I look back and laugh at the different ideas I had about raising children! :lol: I'm sure that in the future I will laugh about my current ideas, and will turn into one of those "MY children would never get away with THAT!" grandmothers.

Children can be totally unpredictable, and react in very surprising ways in strange (which includes WDW for most families) surroundings, especially if they are being exposed to different foods and stimuli.

I've been blessed with generally easy going children who have been very easy to discipline, at least in public. :animwink: But even they have had their moments when they've pushed me to my limits; fortunately, most of those moments were in private, and never at WDW. :lol:

Edited to add:

I agree that the MK is the most annoying park. I myself get burned out with the crowd, noise, etc after only a few hours and have to leave; I can only imagine what a young child is feeling!

Thanks for your post now I understand... I can respect what you have to say because you did not call me anything and you are saying you also had ideas when you never had children... maybe I will be the same way? lol
 

SpongeScott

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bigbadwolf said:
Oh I do not have children... But If I ever do I will make sure they will not be screaming for everything they need or want. I will teach them to ask me, that makes sense? right? I do not believe children have some kind of soul that makes them all act different, it is the way you raise them. Every parent on here will probably feel differently, because they have children and they all have different types of experiences. Plus most parents think thier children are more perfect then others. So what about people who do not have children and do not have experinces? Maybe they would try to dicuss something like this? Who knows... But the big question is... Why do most of you care so much about me talking about children if I do not have children? Why did all of you try to argue with me, but not just let it slide and let this whole thread be ignored? But you continue to let this happen... you all are still correcting me like it some important thing, like I have some control over your kids and what you do to them? Like I am some threat that your kids wont be allowed to sit in a stroller at the age of 5? no... I just wanted to discuss it... For some odd reason it bothers most of you because maybe you do these things? I do not know. Or maybe you are trying to guide me the right way? I do not know. Maybe I should of wrote for the title of this thread also-Not for parents to discuss? This might of prevented any of you to discuss this? Maybe...? Just to tell you also... I do not just see what is going on in the parks... I see it everywhere I have to go... The mall, the movies, the dentist, the school, a airplane, and the hospital. Even at a 7-11 I have seen this.. All have gotten worse each year. I cannot stand going to these places anymore because of screaming children. Why do they scream? Why do they just tell their parents something is wrong? Maybe it is because the parent raise them that way? Allowing thier children to continue to scream until they get what they want is poor parenting skills. Sorry to say it... but it is true and right in their faces.

Plus I will stop after this last post because I am getting tired of discussing this... I know I am not going to win this arguement because the ones I am argueing with all have kids, and it is clear to me you do not like a non parent discussing a topic like this. And I can care less if I am called a bigot, because this is a thread on the internet. Plus words are not as powerful as actions... So aagain the defenition-One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. Think about it... I am a bigot because I cannot care about how parents feel because I do not have kids. But the parents on here are bigots because they do not all know what it feels like how to not have children, and they do not care for what I have to say.


So again.. I do not care for this... and I will not reply to this anymore... this is the last post on my thread I started, which turned into how parents feel about thier children and I have no right to step in and say anything.
*sigh*

You miss the point here completely. You post out of ignorance since you have no experience in parenting. Therefore, you don't know what it is like to be a parent. There are no magic formulas that you use with children and "get them" to obey. Each child is different and with each child you must use different parenting skills. Just because you parent "correctly" does not guarantee your child will not do this or that. It doesn't work like that.

As for us arguing, it's discussion. You brought up the subject and as parents, we responded. If you post something remotely controversial, expect sides to be taken.

Like I said, I would LOVE to talk to you again after you raise your own children and I would like to meet your little angels at the Magic Kingdom in Fantasyland after they have been there for 6 hours and see how they respond to every situation around them.

See you then!
 

WDWFREAK53

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bigbadwolf said:
Thanks for your post now I understand... I can respect what you have to say because you did not call me anything and you are saying you also had ideas when you never had children... maybe I will be the same way? lol

LIAR!!! (Only because you said the previous post was your last! :lol: )

(just messin' with ya)
 

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