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EPCOT Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

Timothy_Q

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Wait. I'm saying that two Disney rides are boring, and you're calling me a pixie duster?

Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

When I said "All that..." I acknowledged the validity of the nice things you said of Symbolica. My point is that its not enough.

Sure, Disney overspends. But Symbolica needed a bigger budget to put better SFX in each room.
"for the price of Ratatouille we could have a Symbolica for every World Showcase country"

"We don't want more rides like Mermaid and Nemo"

Yeah you're comparing Nemo to Symbolica. That's pixie dust
 

Magenta Panther

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Nobody is saying WDW should be a daycare, but your attitude is way off base and you should check yourself. WDW is not your personal adult playground. Get off your high horse and try to think outside your perspective for once.

WDW is a playground for everyone. Which means that its rides shouldn't have to be dumbed down to suit the tastes of infants. Mary Poppins deserves better than a carousel, and I'm not going to accept the possibility that it's all we'll get just because your kids might not get scared on it. Try again.
 

Surferboy567

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I really hate to be that guy but someone has to say it. I fail to see how talking about guardians, UOE, and Symbolica (while all interesting topics) have to do with the MARY POPPINS attraction coming to Epcot. Anyways back to Mary...are we expecting to see ground broken on this by EOY? I thought Marni and other insiders said this was the case? Or have they still not locked down any solid attraction for the site yet?
 

mikejs78

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"for the price of Ratatouille we could have a Symbolica for every World Showcase country"

"We don't want more rides like Mermaid and Nemo"

Yeah you're comparing Nemo to Symbolica. That's pixie dust
Sorry, saying that it's pixie dust when he says two Disney rides are boring and that Symbolica is also boring is a misuse of the term. You're not making sense here.
 

Magenta Panther

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Sorry, saying that it's pixie dust when he says two Disney rides are boring and that Symbolica is also boring is a misuse of the term. You're not making sense here.

Sorry to further misdirect this discussion, but my only complaint about Symbolica (remember, please, that I've only seen videos of it) is that the storyline doesn't make much sense. Maybe it's a language barrier? But it's still amazing and a visual feast.
 

Figments Friend

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The loss of UoE to become the queue, the freaking queue, for a roller coaster will never stop stinging. Pointless loss. The majority of the coaster itself isn’t even in the original UoE building. They could have built a queue and load area anywhere on that side of the park and not destroyed a unique attraction for a glorified waiting room.

Compound that with the coaster being in the wrong park and it stings more.

Agree.

Add this into the stinging mix - the 'Guardians' gigantic show building eyesore.
It competes with the visual scale of Spaceship Earth upon arriving at the Parks ( especially via the Monorail ).

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Figments Friend

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I totally see this point. My issue is the overarching story. I don't know what World Showcase's overarching story/theme is. As I've said, it's the laziness of storytelling with these attractions that's most upsetting. The WS attractions are attractions about the IP. They aren't attractions about the country hosted by the IP. That's what upsets me most. And, I think Guardians is the biggest offender of this. The story for World Discovery is hodgepodge and weak at best. While I loved original EPCOT Center A LOT, I see where the broad based appeal may be lacking. But, I don't see why the themes of original EPCOT Center have to be thrown out if we want to insert characters. I don't think Remy would be any less popular if it was focused on something like Remy teaching you French culinary techniques vs. it being about Remy himself. In Epcot, it should be a France-focused attraction that features Remy vs. a ride focused on Remy and his story. At least in my view. That type of approach would be something I could totally get behind as a compromise designed to make as many people happy as possible.

This.

I really wish someone currently in power within the Disney Company understood this.
So important to the long term health of the Park, as well as appealing to a broad spectrum of Guests visiting from around the world.

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FigmentFan82

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WDW is a playground for everyone. Which means that its rides shouldn't have to be dumbed down to suit the tastes of infants. Mary Poppins deserves better than a carousel, and I'm not going to accept the possibility that it's all we'll get just because your kids might not get scared on it. Try again.
I’d prefer to not have it be a carousel as well, but your attitude that the attractions should all be catered to what you like/want is worrisome
 

Sir_Cliff

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Just call to mind how often so many here criticize the Mermaid and Nemo omnimovers. Having a lot of rides lacking some pizzazz is a whole lot of a lack of pizzazz.

We're about to get three LPS that have the bare minimum of expected pizzazz. Don't settle for a whole bunch of Antarcticas.
What seems interesting to me with this comparison, though, is how much is possible at the fraction of the budget Disney spends on boring rides that look a lot cheaper, like Mermaid and Nemo or the current Journey into Imagination.

Just looking at the video, Symbolica falls a bit flat because it doesn't really have much of a point. If they needed to spend more money, though, it was on having someone punch up the story more than plussing the sets and effects as it's hard to say the scale of this is less impressive than something like Ratatouille or Mermaid. This won't be popular here, but I think it is also a testament to the value IP can add to a ride as part of the issue with Symbolica is that the "story" (such as it is) is a little meaningless without any recognition of the characters or settings. Disney, though, would never be accused of shying away from using its IPs yet it seems to spend many multiples of what Eftling spent on this ride to do far less with them.
 

EPCOTCenterLover

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What seems interesting to me with this comparison, though, is how much is possible at the fraction of the budget Disney spends on boring rides that look a lot cheaper, like Mermaid and Nemo or the current Journey into Imagination.

Just looking at the video, Symbolica falls a bit flat because it doesn't really have much of a point. If they needed to spend more money, though, it was on having someone punch up the story more than plussing the sets and effects as it's hard to say the scale of this is less impressive than something like Ratatouille or Mermaid. This won't be popular here, but I think it is also a testament to the value IP can add to a ride as part of the issue with Symbolica is that the "story" (such as it is) is a little meaningless without any recognition of the characters or settings. Disney, though, would never be accused of shying away from using its IPs yet it seems to spend many multiples of what Eftling spent on this ride to do far less with them.
Doesn't seem like the people "know" these characters at all, so either there's a misfire on creating the story or they are not all that interesting.
 

Orange is the new Red

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Gorgeous, isn't it? Here's a great video of the ride-through:


So I watched the video. It looks like a fun ride. With that being said this ride has terrible pacing with many of the rooms having minimal effects and wait times. I personally wouldn't put this ahead of
What seems interesting to me with this comparison, though, is how much is possible at the fraction of the budget Disney spends on boring rides that look a lot cheaper, like Mermaid and Nemo or the current Journey into Imagination.

Just looking at the video, Symbolica falls a bit flat because it doesn't really have much of a point. If they needed to spend more money, though, it was on having someone punch up the story more than plussing the sets and effects as it's hard to say the scale of this is less impressive than something like Ratatouille or Mermaid. This won't be popular here, but I think it is also a testament to the value IP can add to a ride as part of the issue with Symbolica is that the "story" (such as it is) is a little meaningless without any recognition of the characters or settings. Disney, though, would never be accused of shying away from using its IPs yet it seems to spend many multiples of what Eftling spent on this ride to do far less with them.
I agree with you. I felt they had some cool effects, but outside of this the ride was unnecessarily long, and the pacing of the ride imo is pretty bad, but that's my opinion. I also felt that some of the rooms were pretty large and missing set pieces. I could see why people are impressed with this ride though.
 

Goofy Ninja

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I wouldn't say I'd refuse to ride it if it's based on the new one, but I'd just be disappointed. I actually would try any ride no matter what the IP is. Unless it is satanic and sacrificing virgins... actually that would be pretty cool too.
 
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