News Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

Brer Oswald

Well-Known Member
After seeing Returns (yes I gave in, but I looked away on a certain scene), I honestly don’t see how they could make a full fledged attraction on it instead of the original. Why? The songs. Yes, the new ones are good, but I’ve alre forgotten them. The Sherman Bros knee how to get a song stuck in people’s heads, and even the least remarkable songs from the first film are on par with or more memorable than the best songs in Returns. I can see them mixing the two together if they ever do the carousel dark ride, with a couple of scenes from the new one, but mostly stuff from the original. Of course, we’re probably just getting a regular Carousel that plays music from both, but I’m not even sure on that as they have nothing to promote. I see no reason not go reasonably big.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
After seeing Returns (yes I gave in, but I looked away on a certain scene), I honestly don’t see how they could make a full fledged attraction on it instead of the original. Why? The songs. Yes, the new ones are good, but I’ve alre forgotten them. The Sherman Bros knee how to get a song stuck in people’s heads, and even the least remarkable songs from the first film are on par with or more memorable than the best songs in Returns. I can see them mixing the two together if they ever do the carousel dark ride, with a couple of scenes from the new one, but mostly stuff from the original. Of course, we’re probably just getting a regular Carousel that plays music from both, but I’m not even sure on that as they have nothing to promote. I see no reason not go reasonably big.

One reason is Future World needs investment far more than World Showcase.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
After the theater's expense is deducted, the remaining "profit" can be a split as high as 90/10 for the first 2 weeks. This may be a 50-50 split on net, but profit wise the lions share goes to the distributor.

Or here: https://io9.gizmodo.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable

The short answer is, it depends on a number of factors, but a rule of thumb seems to be that the film needs to make twice its production budget globally. For the longer answer, read on....​
And it used to be true across the board that the opening weekend was when the biggest percentage of profits went to the studios. In the past, studios "strong-armed exhibitors into these front-loaded deals, wherein the overwhelming majority of the opening weekend take goes to the studio," says David Mumpower with Box Office Prophets. "As much as 90% of that revenue is theirs." The theaters only make money by selling "overpriced snacks" to audiences during that first week — but in the following weeks, the theater's cut goes up. Eventually, by the fourth week, the studio's cut has fallen to around 52 percent in most cases. But after a bunch of theater chains declared bankruptcy in the early 2000s, these frontloaded deals started to fall out of fashion, says Doug Stone with BoxOfficeAnalyst.com....​
According to the book The Hollywood Economist by Edward Jay Epstein, studios take in about 40 percent of the revenue from overseas release — and after expenses, they're lucky if they take in 15 percent of that number.​
Or here: https://theweek.com/articles/647394/when-buy-movie-ticket-where-does-that-money

Movie Studios — Arrangements vary, but the movie studio usually ends up with about 60 percent of the proceeds from American box offices. Overseas, the number is usually less, anywhere from 20 percent to 40 percent depending on the film distribution arrangements, agreements, and other costs associated with foreign distribution (not to mention piracy).​


Or here: https://bombreport.com/articles/when-does-a-movie-break-even-at-the-box-office/

Movie theaters don’t play films for free. Theaters are not glorified snack, soda and popcorn dispensaries who receive pennies per ticket sold, they command on average 45% of the ticket price from the major studios and far more from independent distributors. When Icon and Newmarket were negotiating with theater chains over the exhibition fees for The Passion of the Christ, they were able to secure “studio terms” (about 55%). Once the picture pulled in mountains of cash, Regal Cinemas demanded to keep 66% of the ticket price, as per their corporate policy of allotting only 34% to small distributors. The result was a lawsuit that settled in Icon and Newmarket’s favor. Keep the basic 55% calculation in mind when you see box office numbers.​
The days of the sliding scale are long over, where studios could demand most of the ticket price for an expected blockbuster. In fact, Disney tried to strong arm theaters into a 65% share of the ticket price for Iron Man 3, but every theater chain called bull and cut off advanced sales until Disney folded.​
There is also a misconception that the US domestic market is the center of the box office universe and that could not be further from the truth. While it does differ in some territories, for the most part the ticket price is evenly split between the distributor and the cinema — with the major exception being China, where foreign distributors keep just 25%.​


So... I'm quite comfortable relying on people reporting on industry standards than someone not in the biz on a forum telling me I'm wrong. Sorry, but I'll keep the 50% ballpark figure as a rule of thumb.
 

nickys

Premium Member
After seeing Returns (yes I gave in, but I looked away on a certain scene), I honestly don’t see how they could make a full fledged attraction on it instead of the original. Why? The songs. Yes, the new ones are good, but I’ve alre forgotten them. The Sherman Bros knee how to get a song stuck in people’s heads, and even the least remarkable songs from the first film are on par with or more memorable than the best songs in Returns. I can see them mixing the two together if they ever do the carousel dark ride, with a couple of scenes from the new one, but mostly stuff from the original. Of course, we’re probably just getting a regular Carousel that plays music from both, but I’m not even sure on that as they have nothing to promote. I see no reason not go reasonably big.

Out of interest, which scene are you talking about, and why?
 

Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
Or here: https://io9.gizmodo.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable

The short answer is, it depends on a number of factors, but a rule of thumb seems to be that the film needs to make twice its production budget globally. For the longer answer, read on....​
And it used to be true across the board that the opening weekend was when the biggest percentage of profits went to the studios. In the past, studios "strong-armed exhibitors into these front-loaded deals, wherein the overwhelming majority of the opening weekend take goes to the studio," says David Mumpower with Box Office Prophets. "As much as 90% of that revenue is theirs." The theaters only make money by selling "overpriced snacks" to audiences during that first week — but in the following weeks, the theater's cut goes up. Eventually, by the fourth week, the studio's cut has fallen to around 52 percent in most cases. But after a bunch of theater chains declared bankruptcy in the early 2000s, these frontloaded deals started to fall out of fashion, says Doug Stone with BoxOfficeAnalyst.com....​
According to the book The Hollywood Economist by Edward Jay Epstein, studios take in about 40 percent of the revenue from overseas release — and after expenses, they're lucky if they take in 15 percent of that number.​
Or here: https://theweek.com/articles/647394/when-buy-movie-ticket-where-does-that-money

Movie Studios — Arrangements vary, but the movie studio usually ends up with about 60 percent of the proceeds from American box offices. Overseas, the number is usually less, anywhere from 20 percent to 40 percent depending on the film distribution arrangements, agreements, and other costs associated with foreign distribution (not to mention piracy).​


Or here: https://bombreport.com/articles/when-does-a-movie-break-even-at-the-box-office/

Movie theaters don’t play films for free. Theaters are not glorified snack, soda and popcorn dispensaries who receive pennies per ticket sold, they command on average 45% of the ticket price from the major studios and far more from independent distributors. When Icon and Newmarket were negotiating with theater chains over the exhibition fees for The Passion of the Christ, they were able to secure “studio terms” (about 55%). Once the picture pulled in mountains of cash, Regal Cinemas demanded to keep 66% of the ticket price, as per their corporate policy of allotting only 34% to small distributors. The result was a lawsuit that settled in Icon and Newmarket’s favor. Keep the basic 55% calculation in mind when you see box office numbers.​
The days of the sliding scale are long over, where studios could demand most of the ticket price for an expected blockbuster. In fact, Disney tried to strong arm theaters into a 65% share of the ticket price for Iron Man 3, but every theater chain called bull**** and cut off advanced sales until Disney folded.​
There is also a misconception that the US domestic market is the center of the box office universe and that could not be further from the truth. While it does differ in some territories, for the most part the ticket price is evenly split between the distributor and the cinema — with the major exception being China, where foreign distributors keep just 25%.​


So... I'm quite comfortable relying on people reporting on industry standards than someone not in the biz on a forum telling me I'm wrong. Sorry, but I'll keep the 50% ballpark figure as a rule of thumb.
Again 50% of the ticket minus the nut (the operating cost for the theater) although can be higher. Not 50% of the ticket. Common misconception.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
Again 50% of the ticket minus the nut (the operating cost for the theater) although can be higher. Not 50% of the ticket. Common misconception.
I’m not even sure you fully know what you’re arguing at this point.

You’re grasping in an attempt to prove your already proven wrong point.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member

My sources say it’s a done deal “go”...or it never existed at all...or somewhere in between...

I 100% guarantee it...in some form 😉

I talked to a vlogger who said it’s it’s being held up in contracts...or they may have Cooled on it...and there maybe an announcement...or not....at D23...or for “the 50th”

I can guarantee there will be an exclusive upsell “experience”


...did i get it all out?
 

HauntedMansionFLA

Well-Known Member
My sources say it’s a done deal “go”...or it never existed at all...or somewhere in between...

I 100% guarantee it...in some form 😉

I talked to a vlogger who said it’s it’s being held up in contracts...or they may have Cooled on it...and there maybe an announcement...or not....at D23...or for “the 50th”

I can guarantee there will be an exclusive upsell “experience”


...did i get it all out?
PL Travers still has the upper hand even from the grave?
 

wannabeBelle

Well-Known Member
My sources say it’s a done deal “go”...or it never existed at all...or somewhere in between...

I 100% guarantee it...in some form 😉

I talked to a vlogger who said it’s it’s being held up in contracts...or they may have Cooled on it...and there maybe an announcement...or not....at D23...or for “the 50th”

I can guarantee there will be an exclusive upsell “experience”


...did i get it all out?
 

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