Anna and Elsa - Just Plain Ridiculous.

ZodIsGr8

Well-Known Member
Does anyone else agree with me that the Anna and Elsa M&G is just plain ridiculous? While I was in Epcot last month, the wait was up to 4 hours. I waited a little over 3 for Oogie Boogie at Unleash the Villains, but that was a special occasion. Does anyone else think it isn't worth it to meet up with the characters from Frozen? Plus, now that they're moving to MK where Fastpass+ is available, I think it's getting even more out of hand. Maybe it's just me, but I'm using a Fastpass on a ride, not to see the princesses.
Amen!
 

Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
Eh. Elsa doesn't really deal with the bad guy, Anna is the one who ultimately stops him. There are similar beats, I'll grant you that. Honestly, though, I think Brave = Brother Bear is a lot more accurate than Frozen = Lion King.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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I'd say we should be a bit more concerned than to just brush it off by saying "that just means less people in front of me in line for a ride". Not that short lines for a ride aren't a nice thing from a guest's point of view (if you don't think about the ramifications), but they mean something entirely different to the powers that be. The problem is that for every person opting to stand in multi-hour long waits to meet a character instead of a ride, it sends a message to higher ups that THIS is what people are interested in instead of rides. It gives them the (likely welcome to their ears) excuse to bulldoze more rides in favor of meet and greets in their place, and waste precious expansion space on character spots instead of cool new rides. The first plans shown for New Fantasyland showed an attraction roster with exactly that problem, only one "new" ride, the rest being character meetups (the one ride can also technically be argued as not an additional ride as it was more replacing 20k Leagues in a delayed fashion). Even with the revised plan with the Mine Train (while a nice ride), we only really broke even on ride quantity as we lost Snow White's show space to another princess meet and greet...

I'll also mention that a park with a large roster of reasonably efficient and high capacity rides is going to be able to handle long lines infinitely better than a meet and greet (even if it's enormously popular). Even some of the least efficient and lowest capacity rides STILL generally have several times the capacity and efficiency of any meet and greet. So even if the same amount of guests were standing in ride lines instead of meet and greets, the wait time would still only be a fraction of those for meet and greets. And building more quality rides in the parks instead of wasting space and money on characters would help to further evenly disperse crowds and reduce wait times overall for individual rides.

As it stands, whenever a meet and greet attains these lines, the executives probably fight for the opportunity to further expand them and even gut existing rides in their favor. My guess is that the executives are thrilled whenever they're given the excuse. Characters meet and greets are not just popular, they're likely much less costly to run and maintain.
 

Disney Shib

Well-Known Member
I think the same thing as I pass them, (wife) "Look at those people standing in that line. Ridiculous." (me) "But honey, they could be in the ride line in front of us."

It's so true! Maybe my opinion on it will change when I have kids but as of right now... i'm totally ok with it lol.
 

Car01:)

New Member
We had a FP for Anna & Elsa, only waited 12 minutes to see them. But if we didn't we certainly would have waited. We would, not the kids. Just take turns waiting and do other things w/ the kids. Why make them wait. We saw some families doing that and thought it was brilliant!
 

joanna71985

Well-Known Member
We had a FP for Anna & Elsa, only waited 12 minutes to see them. But if we didn't we certainly would have waited. We would, not the kids. Just take turns waiting and do other things w/ the kids. Why make them wait. We saw some families doing that and thought it was brilliant!

That doesn't work anymore at Fairytale Hall (everyone is supposed to wait in line)
 

Fantasmicguy

Well-Known Member
Okay so....
It's okay to wait three hours for one anthropomorphic sack of bugs from a nearly-20-year-old stop motion movie.....
But four hours to meet TWO characters from an Oscar-winning movie that is on track to take down Toy Story 3 as the top grossing animated movie of all time (Frozen just opened yesterday in Japan...all it needs is $63mil to beat Toy Story), that's just too much.

I'm sorry, but I don't see the logic in this argument.
But its a rare occasion to see him at the parks though.
 

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