Imagineer Brandon
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i really like the idea of slowly building a new park, that adds some extra excitement to the thread. don't quite have an idea for the theme yet but i'll try to come up with something.
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orlando678-
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Well lately I've been really interested in the theme of music for a fifth gate. I feel like this is the most natural options Disney could go with. I've heard many people talk about a heroes vs villains or new disneysea park, but I feel like those don't match with the other gates. For example in Tokyo you have Tokyo Disneyland and Tokyo Disneysea. Personally the most natural option for a third gate would be Tokyo Disneysky, because it relates yet differentiates from the other parks. Placing something like an Epcot park or a villains park there, could be exciting but would sort of ruin the line-up of parks at a resort.
DisneyManOne
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Already posted this to the Sorcerer’s Apprentice hype thread by mistake, so I’ll just post it again.
If I may spoil things for my New Horizons thread, I will admit I’ve been working on a 5th game idea of my own: Port Disney, an American equivalent to Tokyo DisneySea. Built on a large expansion pad east of the Magic Kingdom’s parking lot, right along the EPCOT monorail line, this would (mostly) be a fresh new take on the DisneySea formula, with “partner” lands for each Tokyo port and very few clones.
Basic outline for lands:
Novus Harbor: Stand-in for Mediterranean Harbor. Basically what was created for Sorcerer’s Apprentice.
New Orleans Bayou: Stand-in for American Waterfront. Expanded take on New Orleans Square, complete with Princess and the Frog dark ride.
Discovery Bay: Tony Baxter’s legendary concept finally comes to life! Stand-in for both Port Discovery and Mysterious Island. Features the only clones of individual attractions, Journey to the Center of the Earth and 20k Leagues.
Alta Pueblo: Stand-in for Arabian Coast. Concept devised by @D Hindley, themed after Spanish California, with rides themed to Zorro and Coco.
Pirates’ Cove: Stand-in for Lost River Delta, featuring Shanghai’s Battle for the Sunken Treasure and an expanded take on Paris’ Adventure Isle.
Mermaid Lagoon: Only land to be cloned from Tokyo.
Arendelle: Stand-in for Fantasy Springs, featuring expanded take on EPCOT’s Frozen Ever After and DHS’ Frozen sing-along show.
If I may spoil things for my New Horizons thread, I will admit I’ve been working on a 5th game idea of my own: Port Disney, an American equivalent to Tokyo DisneySea. Built on a large expansion pad east of the Magic Kingdom’s parking lot, right along the EPCOT monorail line, this would (mostly) be a fresh new take on the DisneySea formula, with “partner” lands for each Tokyo port and very few clones.
Basic outline for lands:
Novus Harbor: Stand-in for Mediterranean Harbor. Basically what was created for Sorcerer’s Apprentice.
New Orleans Bayou: Stand-in for American Waterfront. Expanded take on New Orleans Square, complete with Princess and the Frog dark ride.
Discovery Bay: Tony Baxter’s legendary concept finally comes to life! Stand-in for both Port Discovery and Mysterious Island. Features the only clones of individual attractions, Journey to the Center of the Earth and 20k Leagues.
Alta Pueblo: Stand-in for Arabian Coast. Concept devised by @D Hindley, themed after Spanish California, with rides themed to Zorro and Coco.
Pirates’ Cove: Stand-in for Lost River Delta, featuring Shanghai’s Battle for the Sunken Treasure and an expanded take on Paris’ Adventure Isle.
Mermaid Lagoon: Only land to be cloned from Tokyo.
Arendelle: Stand-in for Fantasy Springs, featuring expanded take on EPCOT’s Frozen Ever After and DHS’ Frozen sing-along show.
MouseMelly
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Could there be a voyaging ride with Moana?
Miru
Well-Known Member
Considering a lot of people want to glean over DisneySea, what about Disney’s Florida Adventure? Pfft, just kidding. I still stand by Touchstone Realms, as it would appeal to a different demographic than the other parks. But I still think if it had to be DisneySea, I’d be fine.
Touchstone Realms has more of an asymmetrical, branching structure compared to the other parks. The entry land is called “Gate of the Hundred Realms” and is themed to a center of dark magic. The main shop is called “Gifts from Countless Realms.” It sells merchandise not only relating to the park, but to FOX, ABC, ESPN, and of course, Touchstone. (Plus Maybe Hollywood Pictures too?)
The park’s icon is The Gate to The Unknown, sieving an equivalent purpose to the castles at Disneyland-Type parks. It contains a walkthrough attraction and a stop for the park’s transportation service; “The Realmhunter”, a monorail Train. There is also The Touchstone itself, a mystical artifact allowing visitors to see the Realms.
You are now entering... Danger Street.
Danger Street is an action and adventure focused land. The main E-Ticket here is “Die Hard: Rising”, a Tower of Terror-like Ride, except even more thrilling. Riders are now flipped over, catapulted in total darkness, sent spinning as they drop, and launched at high speeds. The story involves the return of Hans Gruber’s evil spirit overtaking the building from the original Die Hard. Next is “Armageddon”, a roller coaster based on the film of the same name. This thrilling ride features a cobra roll, two dive loops, and a hammerhead turn. Con Air might be a good idea for a ride too.
Next area is known as The Lost City, home to a ride based on Apocalypto. This trackless dark ride is called “Apocalypto: They Return”, and takes riders through scenes from the movie. “Forever LOST” is a 4D coaster based on the TV series LOST, themed around riders visiting the island. Forever LOST features several different varieties of inversion, such as the cobra roll and bow tie. It’s sure to send you spinning.
Cyber Region is home to a Futurama simulator-coaster-EMV hybrid attraction (it displays a simulator film but actually does move on a track), suspended over much of the city. Reign of Fire might get an attraction here too.
Another attraction I came up with was Return to the Nostronomo, an Alien Hypercoaster. It would be one of the E-Tickets.
Touchstone Realms has more of an asymmetrical, branching structure compared to the other parks. The entry land is called “Gate of the Hundred Realms” and is themed to a center of dark magic. The main shop is called “Gifts from Countless Realms.” It sells merchandise not only relating to the park, but to FOX, ABC, ESPN, and of course, Touchstone. (Plus Maybe Hollywood Pictures too?)
The park’s icon is The Gate to The Unknown, sieving an equivalent purpose to the castles at Disneyland-Type parks. It contains a walkthrough attraction and a stop for the park’s transportation service; “The Realmhunter”, a monorail Train. There is also The Touchstone itself, a mystical artifact allowing visitors to see the Realms.
You are now entering... Danger Street.
Danger Street is an action and adventure focused land. The main E-Ticket here is “Die Hard: Rising”, a Tower of Terror-like Ride, except even more thrilling. Riders are now flipped over, catapulted in total darkness, sent spinning as they drop, and launched at high speeds. The story involves the return of Hans Gruber’s evil spirit overtaking the building from the original Die Hard. Next is “Armageddon”, a roller coaster based on the film of the same name. This thrilling ride features a cobra roll, two dive loops, and a hammerhead turn. Con Air might be a good idea for a ride too.
Next area is known as The Lost City, home to a ride based on Apocalypto. This trackless dark ride is called “Apocalypto: They Return”, and takes riders through scenes from the movie. “Forever LOST” is a 4D coaster based on the TV series LOST, themed around riders visiting the island. Forever LOST features several different varieties of inversion, such as the cobra roll and bow tie. It’s sure to send you spinning.
Cyber Region is home to a Futurama simulator-coaster-EMV hybrid attraction (it displays a simulator film but actually does move on a track), suspended over much of the city. Reign of Fire might get an attraction here too.
Another attraction I came up with was Return to the Nostronomo, an Alien Hypercoaster. It would be one of the E-Tickets.
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Music and Port Disney would both be great themes! I wouldn't want us to step on the toes of your personal projects, especially since there's a good chance that with a whole group working together these parks could become very different from how you're picturing them. If we decided to go eith them of course.
Are you sure You're ok with us using these themes if we do decide to go this way? Totally understand if not!
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touchstone Realms could be really cool! It might be tough to find a unifying theme to tie it together so it doesn't feel like just a collection of IP. But we could definitely find an aesthetic/thematic tie. Plus, it would be an interesting creative challeng to use really different themes and IPs!
Music is great! And I love how it compliments the other parks in an outside the box way! Part of me worries that "music" might start to feel limited or repetitive as a theme. But "animals" also seems like a limited theme and that park does just fine lol.
This would be a great park! And, as DisneySea and Islands of Adventure proves, theming a park around "ports" gives a ton of freedom. This would definitely be the easiest and give us the most freedom. This might be kind of a "safe" option though. And run the risk of relying to heavy on clones and reused ideas. But, again, this would give us a ton of freedom
Imagineer Brandon
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I like the music and Port Disney ideas a lot.
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Gonna throw out some weird ideas here to see if they speak to anyone.
A family game night park! A park themed to games, sports, stuff like that. Lands could be themed to things like Board Games (maybe with giant Monopoly houses or taking a ride in a Battleship boat), video games (maybe partner with Square Enix for Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, and Tomb Raider attractions. Or Sega for Sonic. Both are companies they've worked with before), sports (perhaps an ancient Greek Olympic Colosseum or attractions themed to the old Goofy shorts of him playing sports).
Another oddball idea would be themed to Cities. Super hero city, a City full of spies, a new Toon Town, a theater district with music/musical themed attractions, etc.
A family game night park! A park themed to games, sports, stuff like that. Lands could be themed to things like Board Games (maybe with giant Monopoly houses or taking a ride in a Battleship boat), video games (maybe partner with Square Enix for Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, and Tomb Raider attractions. Or Sega for Sonic. Both are companies they've worked with before), sports (perhaps an ancient Greek Olympic Colosseum or attractions themed to the old Goofy shorts of him playing sports).
Another oddball idea would be themed to Cities. Super hero city, a City full of spies, a new Toon Town, a theater district with music/musical themed attractions, etc.
DisneyManOne
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I will admit, that layout is how I will be arranging the lands for the New Horizons thread. But for the purposes of this thread, if we decide to go forward on that, we can always swap out one for another. I believe @MouseMelly proposed a Moana ride, so we could turn one of those ports into Motonui, if need be.
orlando678-
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Nah that would be fine. Although I have some ideas, i have no clear or concrete vision of what a disney music theme park could be like.
spacemt354
Chili's
If I had to hedge a bet I'd say we'd see a 3rd water park before a 5th theme park -- with all the development going into the Fort Wilderness area, and given River Country's previous slot as a 3rd water part - a revitalized Fort Wilderness with a water park, maybe even a railroad would be interesting.
And it would be somewhat needed as both water parks tend to hit capacity in the summer, and over the next few years there theoretically will be a plethora of new resort guests with all the hotels and attractions.
And it would be somewhat needed as both water parks tend to hit capacity in the summer, and over the next few years there theoretically will be a plethora of new resort guests with all the hotels and attractions.
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That's a great point! Switching this project to a water park could be interesting. Either a regular waterpark connected to Fort Wilderness like you suggest or a water park that pushes the limits between a water park and theme park. Sort of like what Volcano Bay tried to be as a Water Theme Park.
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Possible ways to combine ideas to create new ones (not that we have to use these over the originals. Just looking for connections lol)
Port Disney Water Park as a water Park/theme park hybrid. Take the themed lands but make the rides all be suited to wearing your bathing suits all day.
Another idea, Touchstone City. Use a city setting like I brought up as the basis add all the more adult, acquired IPs from the Touchstone Realms ideas rather than tbe dimensional travel story.
Port Disney Water Park as a water Park/theme park hybrid. Take the themed lands but make the rides all be suited to wearing your bathing suits all day.
Another idea, Touchstone City. Use a city setting like I brought up as the basis add all the more adult, acquired IPs from the Touchstone Realms ideas rather than tbe dimensional travel story.
Miru
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I approve of both.
Port Disney could feature KH as mentioned above, and maybe include elements of other parts of Florida. Maybe also a music motif?
Touchstone City seems a bit cooler than just a bunch of portals. Danger Street would probably stay. I think the “good Vs. evil” aspects could really shine, too. Forever Lost would be moved into an area known as Mystery Alley, which might also have the Apocalypto ride. I think the Die Hard Ride would become the park icon in this case. Futurama would work well here.
Club Blue Sky could work as a flat ride area. Somewhat akin to KidZone at Universal, but probably much more self aware that it’s a “dumping ground” for those IP. The park name makes me think that maybe more vertical space would be valued as opposed to horizontal like the other parks. We’d have to bring back ESPN Zone as a new restaurant here, too.
I think there could be new hotels that work akin to the Grand Californian at DCA, located more or less adjacent to (or even within) the park, for easy entrance. “A&E Grand”, maybe? If laws allow, maybe we could even incorporate a casino?
And the name of the Halloween event could be Urban Nightmare. Or maybe Urban Hellscape. We could have full-blown gory, horrific Universal-style mazes based on American Horror Story, 28 Days Later, etc, as well as scare zones, which I otherwise feel are largely inappropriate for a Disney park.
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June 12th
11 Day Streak!
Next goal is 15 days
Previous Day's Pitch
Our goal was to discuss ideas for a 5th gate for WDW. So many great ideas! Port Disney, a Music themed park, and a City themed park full of more mature/acquired IPs.
Going forward, every fifth day will be dedicated to developing this fifth gate project together! Do you want that more often? Less often? Let me know!
Today's Project
Our goal today is dedicated to E3. A video game themed attraction or land or restaurant or whatever for WDW or Disneyland!
Bonus points if it ties into something with some recent E3 news!
11 Day Streak!
Next goal is 15 days
Previous Day's Pitch
Our goal was to discuss ideas for a 5th gate for WDW. So many great ideas! Port Disney, a Music themed park, and a City themed park full of more mature/acquired IPs.
Going forward, every fifth day will be dedicated to developing this fifth gate project together! Do you want that more often? Less often? Let me know!
Today's Project
Our goal today is dedicated to E3. A video game themed attraction or land or restaurant or whatever for WDW or Disneyland!
Bonus points if it ties into something with some recent E3 news!
Miru
Well-Known Member
Maui Mallard: Bugstravaganza!
Anyone remember that game? Well, now it’s become an interactive dark ride. Maui must recover secret files from an abandoned base, and trusts on his insect ammunition to do it. Riders ride through a vast jungle before entering the abandoned base, firing at robotic targets all the while.
Spectrobes Revival
A new attraction for Dinoland USA, throughout the Animal Kingdom you find Spectrobes booths, where you challenge enemies. Dinoland has the kiosk to collect these Spectrobes cards, and help you defeat enemies. It’s similar to Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom, and winners obtain promo cards to be used there and vice-versa.
Kingdom Hearts Voyage:
A new trackless interactive dark ride taking you through locations from Disney parks around the world to take out Dream Eaters. (“you aren’t skilled enough to slay a Heartless”)
Oswald’s Paint Paradise:
A water play area based on Epic Mickey.
Anyone remember that game? Well, now it’s become an interactive dark ride. Maui must recover secret files from an abandoned base, and trusts on his insect ammunition to do it. Riders ride through a vast jungle before entering the abandoned base, firing at robotic targets all the while.
Spectrobes Revival
A new attraction for Dinoland USA, throughout the Animal Kingdom you find Spectrobes booths, where you challenge enemies. Dinoland has the kiosk to collect these Spectrobes cards, and help you defeat enemies. It’s similar to Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom, and winners obtain promo cards to be used there and vice-versa.
Kingdom Hearts Voyage:
A new trackless interactive dark ride taking you through locations from Disney parks around the world to take out Dream Eaters. (“you aren’t skilled enough to slay a Heartless”)
Oswald’s Paint Paradise:
A water play area based on Epic Mickey.
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Evilgidgit
Well-Known Member
-Sugar Rush go kart ride of an Autopia-sized racer.
-Turn the entirety of Traverse Town into a Disney Springs area (like we did for SA).
-A Castle of Illusion dark ride.
-A Midway Mania-esque boat ride that uses virtual paint, with either Epic Mickey or Splatoon theming.
-Turn the entirety of Traverse Town into a Disney Springs area (like we did for SA).
-A Castle of Illusion dark ride.
-A Midway Mania-esque boat ride that uses virtual paint, with either Epic Mickey or Splatoon theming.
kmbmw777
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Kinda unrealistic since Disney doesn't own the rights, but I would love to see Minecraft incorporated somehow. That game is one of the most influential of our generation, and it has super positive messages about creativity instilled directly in it. Plus, huge adventures to be had with the End and Enderdragon.
I have no idea what park this would fit best in. Maybe Future World, having its own Innovention like area.