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Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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GoofGoof said:
Depends on your definition of cheating out a bit. A Cantina and an indoor Jedi Training Academy isn't getting it done.
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The latter? Agreed. The former? Not so sure. Look at Be Our Guest. Over a year and a half out and it's STILL going strong, being just as much a draw as an actual attraction. If they put that kind of attention into a Cantina restaurant, then yes, that is going to be HUGE. Not enough to be a "potter-swatter", but it would be a big hit.
 
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Ignohippo

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Matt_Black said:
Give them time; those parks are still relatively new. Indy's in California, Paris, Tokyo, and Florida (for now); it's not unreasonable that at some point down the line HK/ Shanghai will get something.
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I would hope you're right but WDW has always proven to be quite a bit of a different story. IMO, Hong Kong and Shanghai have much more complete parks than WDW has. Adding Indy isn't as much of a stretch in those other parks because they already have a complete presence of things like Pixar. WDW simply doesn't.

Let's put it this way, would a new Indy ride be more beneficial to WDW than a Toy Story playland like Tokyo? No, it wouldn't be. Indy would unfortunately be miles down on the list of needed additions.
 
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Ignohippo

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Matt_Black said:
The latter? Agreed. The former? Not so sure. Look at Be Our Guest. Over a year and a half out and it's STILL going strong, being just as much a draw as an actual attraction. If they put that kind of attention into a Cantina restaurant, then yes, that is going to be HUGE. Not enough to be a "potter-swatter", but it would be a big hit.
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Especially if there's a Millennium Falcon walkthrough out back (which has been the rumor of why the parade storage buildings would be going).
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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Matt_Black said:
The latter? Agreed. The former? Not so sure. Look at Be Our Guest. Over a year and a half out and it's STILL going strong, being just as much a draw as an actual attraction. If they put that kind of attention into a Cantina restaurant, then yes, that is going to be HUGE. Not enough to be a "potter-swatter", but it would be a big hit.
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Yes it would be popular, but we were talking about a Potter Swatter.
 
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Ignohippo

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GoofGoof said:
Anyone know which would cost more to operate and maintain, the Indy Stunt Show or the Indy ride? I have to think the ride might have more mechanical maintenance, but the show has a lot more higher cost CMs and special effects. If TDO could get Burbank to bankroll the ride and save some bucks on operations I would think they would jump at it.
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Agreed, except for the all-important upfront money. The Stunt Show is built and paid for. I doubt the savings in CM costs could ever equal the $100 million it would take to build a new attraction.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Matt_Black said:
The latter? Agreed. The former? Not so sure. Look at Be Our Guest. Over a year and a half out and it's STILL going strong, being just as much a draw as an actual attraction. If they put that kind of attention into a Cantina restaurant, then yes, that is going to be HUGE. Not enough to be a "potter-swatter", but it would be a big hit.
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I agree. Put in a great Cantina along with amazing new rides and attractions.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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Ignohippo said:
Agreed, except for the all-important upfront money. The Stunt Show is built and paid for. I doubt the savings in CM costs could ever equal the $100 million it would take to build a new attraction.
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But it's different budgets. Capital spending on a $100M project would be approved and paid for in Burbank. TDO has to foot the operating bill. That's why I think they may actually push for closing Indy.
 
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Ignohippo

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GoofGoof said:
Depends on your definition of cheating out a bit. A Cantina and an indoor Jedi Training Academy isn't getting it done.

Star Wars Weekends have SW fanboy appeal, but if held 365 days a year wouldn't hold the general public's interest. They need something substantial that people talk about and leave saying "we gotta come back and do it again". That's what Potter did for Universal.
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My concern is that SWW is losing its luster as well. It's the exact same thing year after year (except for the downgrade of the shop at this year's event and the trade off of Hoopla for fireworks).

Personally, I've come to look at SWW as a necessary evil. I feel like I have to go because I'm such an enormous SW geek, but I can honestly say I no longer enjoy it.
 
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Ignohippo

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GoofGoof said:
But it's different budgets. Capital spending on a $100M project would be approved and paid for in Burbank. TDO has to foot the operating bill. That's why I think they may actually push for closing Indy.
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Except that Indy would be WAY down on the list of priorities for new additions.

If you have $100 million to spend, do you spend it on Indy or CARS? You spend it on CARS (or Monsters, or Incredibles, or more Star Wars, or Frozen, or Fairies, or Wall-e, or Up, or Lion King, or Tangled, etc., etc.).
 
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Ignohippo

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Oh, could you imagine little vignettes in the Cantina with all the different creatures and such?!
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The craziest thing is how perfectly the Backlot Express is designed to be converted into the Cantina. It's almost the exact same layout.

If you enclose the outside area, the middle of it sets up perfectly to be the bar. Structurally, there isn't anything about the building itself that would need to be changed. You put animatronics of the Cantina Band at each end of the two indoor seating areas, enclose the outside area and build the bar, throw up some stucco, and you're done.
 
michael.fumc

michael.fumc

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Ignohippo said:
The craziest thing is how perfectly the Backlot Express is designed to be converted into the Cantina. It's almost the exact same layout.

If you enclose the outside area, the middle of it sets up perfectly to be the bar. Structurally, there isn't anything about the building itself that would need to be changed. You put animatronics of the Cantina Band at each end of the two indoor seating areas, enclose the outside area and build the bar, throw up some stucco, and you're done.
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Agree totally, I know there is not a lot of faith that things are going to happen anytime soon on SW but they need to announce something new in this park, and the real-estate around star tours is just begging for something new and SW is the perfect fit
 
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Ignohippo

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michael.fumc said:
Talk about a dream come true, if they announced all that and then said, "but wait there is more!!!" If only that could happen, but we all know, "a dream is just a wish our heart makes!"
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Star Wars could be its own gate. It won't be, but it certainly could be - as Potter could have been.

At the least it deserves an area that fully encompasses the entire saga. Two or three attractions simply won't be good enough.
 
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Ignohippo

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Mike S said:
I agree. Put in a great Cantina along with amazing new rides and attractions.
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So, what if the existing SW area all becomes Tattoine?

Star Tours becomes Mos Eisley spaceport and Backlot Express becomes the Cantina with the Millennium Falcon hanger out back.

Perfect since that area could be the first area of a Star Wars land - just like Tatooine was the first planet in Star Wars and basically the beginning of the story and Luke's journey.

Then the area would open up to the entire SW universe.
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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Matt_Black said:
The latter? Agreed. The former? Not so sure. Look at Be Our Guest. Over a year and a half out and it's STILL going strong, being just as much a draw as an actual attraction. If they put that kind of attention into a Cantina restaurant, then yes, that is going to be HUGE. Not enough to be a "potter-swatter", but it would be a big hit.
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agree, I just hope they put real food and not cosmic rays's levels of crap D:
 

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