FanofDinsey1981
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Americal Idol, OMG!
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hm, I may go by this new shortened version of my screen name. or the poster formerly known as fanofdinsey1981. I haven't decided yet.
WDWhumanmap
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i can't wait to see who wins this thing i think the only people that are left that are truly any good are jasmine GO Hawaii!!! and Geroge Huff.
i still think my friend matt and also amy and jen got burned and cheated. i tell ya sometimes i don't think anyone knows what good music is anymore.
i still think my friend matt and also amy and jen got burned and cheated. i tell ya sometimes i don't think anyone knows what good music is anymore.
FanofDinsey1981
Active Member
ugh, I was so unimpressed....until diana!!! she really got into it, ad picked a great song! she even did the rolling of the 'rrrrr's thing.
george scared me, latoya forgot to sing, red head was horrible, and the other two were eh. but diana. yay for her.
and I liked her dress! along with latoya's. girls looked amazing tonight.
on another note, I watched a taped show of regis and kelly, and they had jennifer on. she was very gracious, she sang great, and she looked amazing.
george scared me, latoya forgot to sing, red head was horrible, and the other two were eh. but diana. yay for her.
and I liked her dress! along with latoya's. girls looked amazing tonight.
on another note, I watched a taped show of regis and kelly, and they had jennifer on. she was very gracious, she sang great, and she looked amazing.
1stStarIC2nite
Active Member
Diana was great tonight, and the rest were just kinda, ehhh...
I really liked Fantasia's shoutouts if ya know what I mean..
JENNIFER WOULD HAVE DONE THE BEST TONIGHT!! :fork:
I really liked Fantasia's shoutouts if ya know what I mean..
JENNIFER WOULD HAVE DONE THE BEST TONIGHT!! :fork:
Disneyfalcon
Well-Known Member
John is way out of his league, but I thought Simon's comments were right on. He has class, he takes criticism well.
I heard Jennifer has said some very negative things since she was voted off. Has anyone heard anything?
I heard Jennifer has said some very negative things since she was voted off. Has anyone heard anything?
disneygirl03
New Member
No, but I know that Jennifer was voted off because America is "racist."
tigsmom
Well-Known Member
Originally posted by disneygirl03
No, but I know that Jennifer was voted off because America is "racist."
Was that Elton John's qoute? I heard something about that last night. Guess it had nothing to do with the severe weather, no electric or phone lines...
If she is bad mouthing anyone it must be in private because everything I've seen and heard is that she is being very gracious.
I'm sure someone will offer her a deal.
FanofDinsey1981
Active Member
I don't know if it would have swung the vote at all, but it might have helpedthat the chicago land area, and nearly the ENTIRE STATE of ILLINOIS was under tornado watches and warnings.
if she is saying anything bad, I agree, she must be saying it in private, because she has everything good to say while on TV. The racist thing I heard from the chat rooms on idolonfox, I don't talk on them but I comb them just to see what others are saying. it is a lot of young kids who like to TyPe LiKe ThIS and use abbriv. words all the time, so sometimes it is hard to follow
but for the most part people were pretty upset.on another note, how amazing is the support for her, and I am not just talking about fantasia's shoutout. at the beginning of the show, secreast talked about the outpouring of support for Jennifer to the producers.
surfsupdon
Well-Known Member
And like every week since Amy Adams when it should have been John Stevens.
Disneyfalcon
Well-Known Member
I don't know where I heard Jennifer had made some derogatory comments. That could be false, she was very gracious last week. I found the following interview with her if you're interested:
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - "I feel like I won the show since I lost the show," Jennifer Hudson says.
You may have heard that Hudson was sent home on Wednesday (April 21) night's "American Idol." You may also have heard that the situation surrounding that departure was, let's just say "contentious."
Two days after Hudson left the "Idol" stage surrounded by her weeping fellow finalists, the 22-year-old Chicago native is facing her future with optimism, but while she denies disappointment, it's clear that a bitter taste remains in her mouth.
The official "American Idol" web site dismisses any kind of controversy, declaring, somewhat misleadingly, "In the round of seven, Jennifer wasn't able to handle the music of Barry Manilow." Hudson disagrees, joining her vocal legion of fans in maintaining that her exit was premature.
"I don't think it was based on talent," she declares. "If we're gonna base it on talent, I know I was robbed. I don't think ... I don't know exactly what it was based on, but I don't think it was talent at all."
Although she quickly skips over suggestions that race may have played a role ("Talent has no color," she explains) she knows for a fact that she lost votes because of storms that caused power outages in Chicago. It wasn't until after Wednesday night's show that Hudson's mother confessed that she had been unable to vote on Tuesday night and that several of her siblings had also experienced a lack of cell phone reception.
"That storm was a sign from God that it's time to remove you from this place," says the religious Hudson. "I feel like He spoke and when He's got something to say, I ain't got nothing to say about it."
One person she refuses to blame is 16-year-old John Stevens, the carrot-top crooner who has been at the center of debate for weeks due to the popularly held perception that he isn't good for this level of competition. Hudson confirms that the past few Wednesdays, Stevens has been heard saying that he should have been going home.
"We all feel he deserves to be there. We all deserve to be there," Hudson declares. "I don't think he should feel that way. He has fans, just like we do, and obviously they're voting."
Hudson's frustration isn't that John Stevens' fans flood the phone with their votes every Tuesday, but that other contestants' fans are slower to show their support. Then again, Hudson is of the opinion that she wasn't getting enough love throughout the competition.
"I never really received any of my props or accolades from any of the judges and they always gave me a hard time, so it wasn't really an easy role for me at all," she says, reasoning that perhaps it was just time for her to move on.
Calling herself "The Good Diva," Hudson insists that she doesn't have "a bad attitude and a lot of demands and all that crap." The problem may just be that Hudson is a singer for a different time. As much as she enjoyed receiving her smattering of compliments from the "Idol" judges, she puts more stock in raves from the likes of guest judges Elton John and Barry Manilow.
"They come from the real era of music, when it was real singing, back when music was music," Hudson say. "I felt like if I was born in the time of Aretha Franklin then... it would be 'Aretha Franklin and Jennifer Hudson.' I'd rather be praised by somebody like them versus the people of today, because the people of today have no clue what real music is."
Hudson says she'll be rooting for close friend George Huff for the rest of the competition and refuses to feel bad either about her performance on the show or the way her run ended.
"I'm just telling the truth because -- as far as the show goes -- I really don't have anything to lose, because it's over for me," she says. "I feel overall, I can't complain, because I experienced everything I wanted to experience."
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - "I feel like I won the show since I lost the show," Jennifer Hudson says.
You may have heard that Hudson was sent home on Wednesday (April 21) night's "American Idol." You may also have heard that the situation surrounding that departure was, let's just say "contentious."
Two days after Hudson left the "Idol" stage surrounded by her weeping fellow finalists, the 22-year-old Chicago native is facing her future with optimism, but while she denies disappointment, it's clear that a bitter taste remains in her mouth.
The official "American Idol" web site dismisses any kind of controversy, declaring, somewhat misleadingly, "In the round of seven, Jennifer wasn't able to handle the music of Barry Manilow." Hudson disagrees, joining her vocal legion of fans in maintaining that her exit was premature.
"I don't think it was based on talent," she declares. "If we're gonna base it on talent, I know I was robbed. I don't think ... I don't know exactly what it was based on, but I don't think it was talent at all."
Although she quickly skips over suggestions that race may have played a role ("Talent has no color," she explains) she knows for a fact that she lost votes because of storms that caused power outages in Chicago. It wasn't until after Wednesday night's show that Hudson's mother confessed that she had been unable to vote on Tuesday night and that several of her siblings had also experienced a lack of cell phone reception.
"That storm was a sign from God that it's time to remove you from this place," says the religious Hudson. "I feel like He spoke and when He's got something to say, I ain't got nothing to say about it."
One person she refuses to blame is 16-year-old John Stevens, the carrot-top crooner who has been at the center of debate for weeks due to the popularly held perception that he isn't good for this level of competition. Hudson confirms that the past few Wednesdays, Stevens has been heard saying that he should have been going home.
"We all feel he deserves to be there. We all deserve to be there," Hudson declares. "I don't think he should feel that way. He has fans, just like we do, and obviously they're voting."
Hudson's frustration isn't that John Stevens' fans flood the phone with their votes every Tuesday, but that other contestants' fans are slower to show their support. Then again, Hudson is of the opinion that she wasn't getting enough love throughout the competition.
"I never really received any of my props or accolades from any of the judges and they always gave me a hard time, so it wasn't really an easy role for me at all," she says, reasoning that perhaps it was just time for her to move on.
Calling herself "The Good Diva," Hudson insists that she doesn't have "a bad attitude and a lot of demands and all that crap." The problem may just be that Hudson is a singer for a different time. As much as she enjoyed receiving her smattering of compliments from the "Idol" judges, she puts more stock in raves from the likes of guest judges Elton John and Barry Manilow.
"They come from the real era of music, when it was real singing, back when music was music," Hudson say. "I felt like if I was born in the time of Aretha Franklin then... it would be 'Aretha Franklin and Jennifer Hudson.' I'd rather be praised by somebody like them versus the people of today, because the people of today have no clue what real music is."
Hudson says she'll be rooting for close friend George Huff for the rest of the competition and refuses to feel bad either about her performance on the show or the way her run ended.
"I'm just telling the truth because -- as far as the show goes -- I really don't have anything to lose, because it's over for me," she says. "I feel overall, I can't complain, because I experienced everything I wanted to experience."
FanofDinsey1981
Active Member
I like the line "talent has no color". right on.
and good article. thanks!
and good article. thanks!
BRER STITCH
Well-Known Member
The Producers of the show need to put a LOT more thought into who they have as guest judges/music themes next time.
I'm a fan of both Barry Manilow and Gloria Estefan, but their catalog of work is not suited for showcasing amateur talent. Each of these particular artists have written music for themsleves to shine...not teens with developing voices.
In any event, last night was awful. Apparently Gloria is the only one who can sing GLORIA! :lol:
With all the chaos surrounding the show this year, I doubt it will ever be able to produce winners like Kelly Clarkson and Reuben Studdard again. Howevere, it can still serve as a showcase for some talented individulas to get noticed and made into stars without "winning" the title. But that would require a name change for the show...
My ranking from tonight is: (No comments necessary...)
LaToya
Fantasia
Diana
Jasmine
George
John
By the way....funny story in the USA TODAY yesterday about John Stevens titled something like "Has This Guy Killed American Idol?"
:lol:
I'll post it ifI can find it.....
I'm a fan of both Barry Manilow and Gloria Estefan, but their catalog of work is not suited for showcasing amateur talent. Each of these particular artists have written music for themsleves to shine...not teens with developing voices.
In any event, last night was awful. Apparently Gloria is the only one who can sing GLORIA! :lol:
With all the chaos surrounding the show this year, I doubt it will ever be able to produce winners like Kelly Clarkson and Reuben Studdard again. Howevere, it can still serve as a showcase for some talented individulas to get noticed and made into stars without "winning" the title. But that would require a name change for the show...
My ranking from tonight is: (No comments necessary...)
LaToya
Fantasia
Diana
Jasmine
George
John
By the way....funny story in the USA TODAY yesterday about John Stevens titled something like "Has This Guy Killed American Idol?"
:lol:
I'll post it ifI can find it.....
Invero
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BRER STITCH
Well-Known Member
OK....here it is. I couldn't promise then not deliver.
***WARNING***
There are a couple areas of the article below that may not be deemed very "DISNEY" (ie. suitable for all ages). While they are humorous, I wanted to alert you to make the judgement call on your own...
Could this guy kill 'American Idol'?
By Edna Gundersen, USA TODAY
John Stevens may not have the pipes or personality of his peers, but a plurality is all he'll need to grab the American Idol title.
Music consultant Dennis O'Donnell says "I don't think anyone who's voted for him could sit and listen to 12 cuts of John Stevens."
The show's low-watt crooner sparked outrage and debate after surviving his sixth elimination round last week. The judges pronounced Stevens the weakest performer, yet the pink slip went to Jennifer Hudson. Simon Cowell predicted that the contest would narrow to a battle among soul divas, but the call-in vote shoved them to the bottom three.
Industry observers dub the amiable Stevens a green and marginal talent ill-equipped for pop stardom. Voters say otherwise.
"I have a feeling John Stevens will win!" reads one of many fawning posts on the show's Web site, idolonfox.com. "He is so special, and he improves every week."
Gag me, says George Varga, pop critic for the San Diego Union-Tribune and Copley News Service.
Stevens "could be the savior of devoted music fans across the nation," Varga says, "or he could be Satan's most promising young emissary. Assuming the former is true, his win should provide the best chance yet for American Idol's much-deserved cancellation. If not, I'd suggest a joint tour with William Hung and have Janet Jackson's right nipple as the opening act, although the nipple is probably the superior singer."
Similar views are echoed by industry observers, who snicker at the franchise but grudgingly admire its lucrative first two runs. Inaugural winner Kelly Clarkson, second-season victor Ruben Studdard and his runner-up, Clay Aiken, delivered big-selling albums.
A Stevens triumph could end that streak, says music consultant Dennis O'Donnell.
"With this kid, what can you do?" he says. "He's not an engaging personality. He's not even (U.K. music-hall popster) Gilbert O'Sullivan. You have no one-hit-wonder capability in this equation."
Stevens' lounge style appeals to "a very narrow audience, and we're already swung out to death," he says. "He's no Brian Setzer, and he's not going to sing with the Squirrel Nut Zippers. There might be a television theme in him, like a Jack Jones/Love Boat kind of thing."
The 16-year-old's inexperience and meager skills pose huge obstacles, even with Idol's high-profile platform and army of pros.
"The first thing I'd recommend is vocal lessons," music consultant Tom Vickers says. "I'd broaden his material so he's not locked in this lounge-wannabe genre. He doesn't have much charisma or firepower. He's a one-note samba.
"I imagine the only reason he's gotten this far is that he's a really attractive kid. Teen girls may be voting for him in droves, but I doubt they'll buy his record."
O'Donnell concurs: "I don't believe there's a record in John Stevens. And I don't think anyone who's voted for him could sit and listen to 12 cuts of John Stevens.
"This guy is the bland, mellow and inoffensive voice of Muzak's future, a new Roger Whittaker," he adds, referring to the British easy-listening singer/whistler.
A Stevens win could damage the talent show's credibility by tilting toward novelty figures, "a door that was opened by William Hung, who is the best hook American Idol had this year," he says.
Idol risks its reputation each time Stevens squeaks through, says Vickers, noting that finalists at this stage in earlier races displayed more raw talent and potential.
"They may not have been the greatest talents on the planet, but they could get through a song," he says. "This guy can barely do that. The show is starting to play itself out. If Stevens wins, it would be another nail in the coffin."
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***WARNING***
There are a couple areas of the article below that may not be deemed very "DISNEY" (ie. suitable for all ages). While they are humorous, I wanted to alert you to make the judgement call on your own...
Could this guy kill 'American Idol'?
By Edna Gundersen, USA TODAY
John Stevens may not have the pipes or personality of his peers, but a plurality is all he'll need to grab the American Idol title.
Music consultant Dennis O'Donnell says "I don't think anyone who's voted for him could sit and listen to 12 cuts of John Stevens."
The show's low-watt crooner sparked outrage and debate after surviving his sixth elimination round last week. The judges pronounced Stevens the weakest performer, yet the pink slip went to Jennifer Hudson. Simon Cowell predicted that the contest would narrow to a battle among soul divas, but the call-in vote shoved them to the bottom three.
Industry observers dub the amiable Stevens a green and marginal talent ill-equipped for pop stardom. Voters say otherwise.
"I have a feeling John Stevens will win!" reads one of many fawning posts on the show's Web site, idolonfox.com. "He is so special, and he improves every week."
Gag me, says George Varga, pop critic for the San Diego Union-Tribune and Copley News Service.
Stevens "could be the savior of devoted music fans across the nation," Varga says, "or he could be Satan's most promising young emissary. Assuming the former is true, his win should provide the best chance yet for American Idol's much-deserved cancellation. If not, I'd suggest a joint tour with William Hung and have Janet Jackson's right nipple as the opening act, although the nipple is probably the superior singer."
Similar views are echoed by industry observers, who snicker at the franchise but grudgingly admire its lucrative first two runs. Inaugural winner Kelly Clarkson, second-season victor Ruben Studdard and his runner-up, Clay Aiken, delivered big-selling albums.
A Stevens triumph could end that streak, says music consultant Dennis O'Donnell.
"With this kid, what can you do?" he says. "He's not an engaging personality. He's not even (U.K. music-hall popster) Gilbert O'Sullivan. You have no one-hit-wonder capability in this equation."
Stevens' lounge style appeals to "a very narrow audience, and we're already swung out to death," he says. "He's no Brian Setzer, and he's not going to sing with the Squirrel Nut Zippers. There might be a television theme in him, like a Jack Jones/Love Boat kind of thing."
The 16-year-old's inexperience and meager skills pose huge obstacles, even with Idol's high-profile platform and army of pros.
"The first thing I'd recommend is vocal lessons," music consultant Tom Vickers says. "I'd broaden his material so he's not locked in this lounge-wannabe genre. He doesn't have much charisma or firepower. He's a one-note samba.
"I imagine the only reason he's gotten this far is that he's a really attractive kid. Teen girls may be voting for him in droves, but I doubt they'll buy his record."
O'Donnell concurs: "I don't believe there's a record in John Stevens. And I don't think anyone who's voted for him could sit and listen to 12 cuts of John Stevens.
"This guy is the bland, mellow and inoffensive voice of Muzak's future, a new Roger Whittaker," he adds, referring to the British easy-listening singer/whistler.
A Stevens win could damage the talent show's credibility by tilting toward novelty figures, "a door that was opened by William Hung, who is the best hook American Idol had this year," he says.
Idol risks its reputation each time Stevens squeaks through, says Vickers, noting that finalists at this stage in earlier races displayed more raw talent and potential.
"They may not have been the greatest talents on the planet, but they could get through a song," he says. "This guy can barely do that. The show is starting to play itself out. If Stevens wins, it would be another nail in the coffin."
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tigsmom
Well-Known Member
Found the Elton John article...I copied it here because it keeps disappearing from the news page...
Elton John Says 'Idol' Vote Is Racist
Associated Press/AP Online
NEW YORK - Elton John thinks there's something "incredibly racist" about viewer voting on Fox TV's "American Idol."
John - who rehearsed with the show's wannabe pop stars during a recent week in which they performed his songs - said three performers he was really impressed with "happened to be black, young female singers and they all seemed to be landing in the bottom three."
"These three girls would have the talent to be members of The Royal Academy or Juilliard," the British singer-songwriter told reporters. "They have great voices. The fact that they are constantly in the bottom three, and I don't want to set myself up here, I find it incredibly racist."
Fox spokesman Scott Grogin said Wednesday the network had no comment.
John made the remarks in response to a question during a news conference Tuesday to announce his July 13-18 concerts at Radio City Music Hall. The concerts will feature students from London's Royal Academy of Music and The Juilliard School of New York.
Last week, black vocalist Jennifer Hudson was voted off the show, and the other two singers grouped in the bottom three of the remaining "American Idol" contestants were black singers La Toya London and Fantasia Barrino. They'd been praised by the show's judges and had become known as "The Three Divas."
The New York Post reported it was deluged with calls complaining that the voting was racially motivated. (The Post is owned by News Corp., which also owns Fox TV.)
Even series host Ryan Seacrest chastised viewers following the tally in which contestants who gave marginal performances were the top vote-getters.
"You cannot let talent like this slip through the cracks," Seacrest said.
London and Barrino are still in the competition, as is George Huff, who is black. For the contestants, a recording contract and instant career are at stake.
"American Idol," unlike other reality shows featuring competition, is more popular in black homes than white homes. For the current season, the show is watched in 19 percent of all black households, compared with 15 percent of white households, according to Nielsen Media Research.
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Elton John Says 'Idol' Vote Is Racist
Associated Press/AP Online
NEW YORK - Elton John thinks there's something "incredibly racist" about viewer voting on Fox TV's "American Idol."
John - who rehearsed with the show's wannabe pop stars during a recent week in which they performed his songs - said three performers he was really impressed with "happened to be black, young female singers and they all seemed to be landing in the bottom three."
"These three girls would have the talent to be members of The Royal Academy or Juilliard," the British singer-songwriter told reporters. "They have great voices. The fact that they are constantly in the bottom three, and I don't want to set myself up here, I find it incredibly racist."
Fox spokesman Scott Grogin said Wednesday the network had no comment.
John made the remarks in response to a question during a news conference Tuesday to announce his July 13-18 concerts at Radio City Music Hall. The concerts will feature students from London's Royal Academy of Music and The Juilliard School of New York.
Last week, black vocalist Jennifer Hudson was voted off the show, and the other two singers grouped in the bottom three of the remaining "American Idol" contestants were black singers La Toya London and Fantasia Barrino. They'd been praised by the show's judges and had become known as "The Three Divas."
The New York Post reported it was deluged with calls complaining that the voting was racially motivated. (The Post is owned by News Corp., which also owns Fox TV.)
Even series host Ryan Seacrest chastised viewers following the tally in which contestants who gave marginal performances were the top vote-getters.
"You cannot let talent like this slip through the cracks," Seacrest said.
London and Barrino are still in the competition, as is George Huff, who is black. For the contestants, a recording contract and instant career are at stake.
"American Idol," unlike other reality shows featuring competition, is more popular in black homes than white homes. For the current season, the show is watched in 19 percent of all black households, compared with 15 percent of white households, according to Nielsen Media Research.
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MagicalMonorail
New Member
I'm really surprised the 2 guys are in the bottom 3. I thought they were here to stay for a while. I'm not that surprised John left though. He's not that great of a singer, but he's really not that bad. The girls of America found someone else to vote for I guess.
Go Jasmine and Diana!
Go Jasmine and Diana!