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mickEblu

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Nope, nope. This is all on the designers and studio heads. Can't blame a hammer for a crappy house.

True but take that first scene for example. You lost the nice set up for the ride and outdoor section for a screen Dino. In the past, With screens not being as convincing, imagineers were more focused on building physical worlds to wow us. They wouldn’t have even attempted to give us water Dino because it moving around like that because it wouldn’t be possible to do it convincingly. The irony is that neither the physical or screen dinos are convincing (except maybe that last TRex head) but we ll always be more impressed by 3D physical worlds and figures. A screen will always make you feel like you re watching a movie to some degree.
 
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George Lucas on a Bench

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I always like the JP ride, but I've only done it in Florida. The dinos mostly look good but the brontosaurus always looked daffy. I think the "tour" part at the beginning kinda lacked because of the slow movement of the ride combined with the slow or lack of movement from the dinos.

I like Disney's dinos more. For instance, you seem to glide by the dinos on the train more quickly and superior show lighting makes even those stiff charming 1960s figures more impressive. The neon dinos on the Dinosaur ride at Animal Kingdom are also more impressive. You pass by them more quickly on an intense ride and they're rather intimidating not as dinosaurs as the Imagineers would have wanted, but because they're giant machinery with really loud THX certified speakers deafening you.
 

mickEblu

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Screens are cheaper than physical sets and AAs.

Right. I forgot to make that point too. And they can be updated easily.

The instant that screens became “convincing enough” that was kind of the death knell for fully fleshed out physical sets on attractions. Exceptions like RSR are few and far between.

I think screens can be used effectively like they appear to be on the Navi boat ride and POTC in Shanghai but usually not when they re the focal point.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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I estimate late 1980s as the advent of screen attractions? Disney opened Body Wars at Epcot, which was just a video pre-show and Star Tours style ride with absolutely no props or any theming beyond some banal white corridors.

Universal Studios then opened Back to the Future, which was also entirely screens. A screen festival. Just a record number of screens. Screens in the line, two screen pre-shows, the ride on a screen and even a screen in the ride car. The industry was forever changed.
 

mickEblu

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I estimate late 1980s as the advent of screen attractions? Disney opened Body Wars at Epcot, which was just a video pre-show and Star Tours style ride with absolutely no props or any theming beyond some banal white corridors.

Universal Studios then opened Back to the Future, which was also entirely screens. A screen festival. Just a record number of screens. Screens in the line, two screen pre-shows, the ride on a screen and even a screen in the ride car. The industry was forever changed.

I think Star Tours works well with the screen being the primary focus because it’s doubling as a windshield. Unlike GOTG: where the screen is supposed to just be the Guardians physically walking around 5 feet in front of us.
 

mickEblu

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I think the screen element for this ride is well done and very convincing.

It’s honestly not bad in and of itself. It just doesn’t work for me when you mix screens as a primary focus and built out sets. I think you have to stick to the same medium otherwise the screens stick out like a sore thumb. I also don’t like what it did to the flow of the ride.

I don’t find Chris Pratt nearly as offensive on Jurassic World because we re supposed to be looking at a TV screen.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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Universal did a sort of pepper's ghost effect for the Disaster show that made Christopher Walken appear to be onstage. They use the same effect in line for Harry Potter although it's not quite as convincing.
 

mickEblu

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Imagine (and I believe @nevol first came up with this example) that you were flying through huge sets of different cities in Soarin over California and they ended the ride parked in front of a screen. It doesn’t work going back and forth.
 

TragicMike

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Disneyland is my favorite theme park but seeing that Brachiosaurus with the John Williams score playing will forever remain my favorite theme park memory as a child.

RIP Nessie
 

TP2000

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The only change I kinda like is the dead Pterodactyl, but even that feels too gorey. I'm not a prude but it's sort of crossing the line into trashy.

I thought that first aquarium scene was well done, especially with the water effects. A nice example of "screenz" being okay sometimes.

The rest of the ride just seems like a thorough rehab and a clever update for the current franchise instead of the 1993 movie. But, yeah, it's kind of trashy. Hasn't it always been kind of trashy though?
 

GrizzlyAdams

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I thought that first aquarium scene was well done, especially with the water effects. A nice example of "screenz" being okay sometimes.

The rest of the ride just seems like a thorough rehab and a clever update for the current franchise instead of the 1993 movie. But, yeah, it's kind of trashy. Hasn't it always been kind of trashy though?
The aquarium is decent, maybe even good but it’s hard to tell on YouTube... it should come much later though... there should be the gates and anticipation and growing sense of wonder... now dead and gone
 

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