All things Knotts Berry Farm

[DanielBB8]

I've never waited in line for Iron Reef, so I've never spent any time in that room. The few times I've ridden, the ride has been a walk on. Can a screen in a queue really be considered a "preshow?" That's like saying the screen in the Space Mountain hallways disclosing the safety information if a preshow.

Except it’s not a safety spiel, it’s an actual preshow. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

And its slow because its boring. Its mindless and doesn't engage your senses. Midway Mania at least has set pieces you whirl past and different types of environments and gameplay with combos available. Iron Reef is just a long slow ride through the same basic looking backgrounds with busy looking things to shoot ad naseum. There should be physical AA's to shoot, sets to experience, practical effects, and screens to open up the gameplay/world beyond the set. Like I said, Castle Park, a small C - level park has a much more enjoyable shooter attraction. Considering how detailed and interesting KOTD was, we know Knott's was capable of giving us a much more interesting experience.

If you want sets, I doubt it’ll change your opinion. It’s a different ride in any case.

Have you been to Legoland’s Lost Adventure shooter ride. It’s very lacking, but it can still be fun.



Again, why not compare to Legoland’s Ninjago ride that uses the exact same technology down to the cars and screens.



“Like I said, Castle Park, a small C - level park”

Of course.

“Midway Mania at least has set pieces you whirl past and different types of”

Again, comparing Knott’s to Disney that have multi millions to spend. As for set pieces in Midway Mania, I haven’t noticed because I’m watching the screens. At least I know where you’re looking at and it’s not the ride itself.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

I've never waited in line for Iron Reef, so I've never spent any time in that room. The few times I've ridden, the ride has been a walk on. Can a screen in a queue really be considered a "preshow?" That's like saying the screen in the Space Mountain hallways disclosing the safety information if a preshow.

And its slow because its boring. Its mindless and doesn't engage your senses. Midway Mania at least has set pieces you whirl past and different types of environments and gameplay with combos available. Iron Reef is just a long slow ride through the same basic looking backgrounds with busy looking things to shoot ad naseum. There should be physical AA's to shoot, sets to experience, practical effects, and screens to open up the gameplay/world beyond the set. Like I said, Castle Park, a small C - level park has a much more enjoyable shooter attraction. Considering how detailed and interesting KOTD was, we know Knott's was capable of giving us a much more interesting experience.

THIS ^^^^^^^ 100% AGREE. YOU GET WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. IT IS A HORRIBLE RIDE. #BRINGBACKMYDINOS

 

[Practical Pig]

Iron Reef was a 0.5 and done for me. Halfway through I just put down the shooter and closed my eyes until it was over. It's such a cacophony of clutter.

 

[Professortango1]

Except it’s not a safety spiel, it’s an actual preshow. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
If you want sets, I doubt it’ll change your opinion. It’s a different ride in any case.

Have you been to Legoland’s Lost Adventure shooter ride. It’s very lacking, but it can still be fun.



Again, why not compare to Legoland’s Ninjago ride that uses the exact same technology down to the cars and screens.



“Like I said, Castle Park, a small C - level park”

Of course.

“Midway Mania at least has set pieces you whirl past and different types of”

Again, comparing Knott’s to Disney that have multi millions to spend. As for set pieces in Midway Mania, I haven’t noticed because I’m watching the screens. At least I know where you’re looking at and it’s not the ride itself.

Can it be called a preshow when the queue bypasses it? If its important to the story, shouldn't it be a part of the attraction experience, regardless of how unpopular the attraction is?

Ninjago suffers similar problems but has a better pace and escalation as well as more varied locations. Iron Reef is a 3/10 and Ninjago is about a 5/10.

And how do you not notice the set pieces on Midway Mania? It helps fill the moment between screens. Plus, Disney is in a different level, but that should affect budget not concepts. The gameplay for Midway Mania is superior to Iron Reef. Not because they have more money, but because it's not trying to be an arcade game. It has different games with different ways of playing and what you do actually effects the visuals you see. Knotts could have done a similar thing, but it just requires more thinking and less "let's just have a ton of metal sea creatures to shoot at!"

 

[Phroobar]

Six Flags Battle for Metropolis trumps all of the above. It has AA figures, phyiscal targets, motion simulator, huge screens and a preshow with an AA figure. Buzz Lightyear and Midway Mania are pathetic compared to it.

 

[UpAllNight]

I had one of the best days I’ve ever had at any theme park at Knotts. We went mid-week, and must have gotten on about 50 rides. Loved the log flume and mine ride. Ghostrider was shut unfortunately, but loved the variation of rides and coasters. Was a very memorable day. Not fussed by the lack of screen rides...I’d take the mine ride any day of the week.

 

[DanielBB8]

Can it be called a preshow when the queue bypasses it? If its important to the story, shouldn't it be a part of the attraction experience, regardless of how unpopular the attraction is?

Everytime I was there, I never bypassed the preshow. How did you manage that? That’s a benefit for you, but I seen it every visit especially when you climb the stairs in the regular queue to the line. You’ll only miss the screens when you take the other route, which I never did. This happens at Disney when the queue and preshow is bypassed when you have Fastpass.

Ninjago suffers similar problems but has a better pace and escalation as well as more varied locations. Iron Reef is a 3/10 and Ninjago is about a 5/10.

So you been there! Finally a confession. Sorry, both rides are about the same, but Ninjago has the better hand gestures controls and better loading and reliability.

And how do you not notice the set pieces on Midway Mania? It helps fill the moment between screens. Plus, Disney is in a different level, but that should affect budget not concepts. The gameplay for Midway Mania is superior to Iron Reef. Not because they have more money, but because it's not trying to be an arcade game. It has different games with different ways of playing and what you do actually effects the visuals you see. Knotts could have done a similar thing, but it just requires more thinking and less "let's just have a ton of metal sea creatures to shoot at!"

The set pieces are noticed when the cars take a longer route between screens. It’s hardly the same on each ride. Sometime you see more, usually I see less and the set is not integral to the attraction experience. Disney does things because they have more money. They have better capacity and loading. Cars are speedier. Action is longer and more sustained. Sorry, the concept is the same, but the budgets are bigger. In Iron Reef, every cars sees a different screen linearly. Toy Story Mania mixes up the screens and routes for best efficiency and capacity. If you want Knott’s to have Disney approaches to everything, it’ll break the bank

You should stop for minute. Maybe when going to Knott’s, you should appreciate it’s not Disney. Disney is still there as the pinnacle theme park experience.

 

[NateD1226]

Went to Knotts's for the first half of today! It was very fun. Here is a fun question I thought of while I was there: What is the worst ride to get stuck on and why?

 

[D.Silentu]

Six Flags Battle for Metropolis trumps all of the above. It has AA figures, phyiscal targets, motion simulator, huge screens and a preshow with an AA figure. Buzz Lightyear and Midway Mania are pathetic compared to it.

I agree, but it must be noted that the single area where it is handily beaten by Midway Mania is in its animation.

 

[Darkbeer1]

Went to Knotts's for the first half of today! It was very fun. Here is a fun question I thought of while I was there: What is the worst ride to get stuck on and why?

The Sky Cabin. Last time it broke down, it took hours to get the guests down. First thing each person did was head to the bathroom.

 

[Phroobar]

The Sky Cabin. Last time it broke down, it took hours to get the guests down. First thing each person did was head to the bathroom.

Didn't they install an emergency toilet near the doors?

 

[DanielBB8]

Didn't they install an emergency toilet near the doors?

Would that be the evaluation portal?

 

[Darkbeer1]

So, picked up the Boysenberry Festival Map last night, and noticed an OOPS...

On the back cover, they have the logo's of their sponsors. It looks like Cedar Fair Corporate did it, as the Ice Cream sponsor is Edy's….

That is just like using Hellmann's logo....

Wrong side of the Nation!

 

[Rich T]

The Sky Cabin. Last time it broke down, it took hours to get the guests down.

...I have this mental image of an old prospector with a wrench sitting at the base, slowly but diligently ratcheting the Sky Cabin down...

 

[Professortango1]

Everytime I was there, I never bypassed the preshow. How did you manage that? That’s a benefit for you, but I seen it every visit especially when you climb the stairs in the regular queue to the line. You’ll only miss the screens when you take the other route, which I never did. This happens at Disney when the queue and preshow is bypassed when you have Fastpass.


You should stop for minute. Maybe when going to Knott’s, you should appreciate it’s not Disney. Disney is still there as the pinnacle theme park experience.

Fastpass doesn't have you skip the HM Foyer and Stretching Room. Fastpass doesn't have you skip the TOT Library. Fastpass doesn't have you skip the magic mirror in Enchanted Tales.

And I know what's Knott's is. I love Calico Mine Train and Timber Mountain Log Ride. I loved the Haunted Shack. I thought Kingdom on the Dinosaurs was phenomenal for Knott's. The Soapbox Racers were a blast on a Knott's budget. I even appreciate the themeing in Jaguar's queue, even if we lost the fire/fog effects way too early on the attraction. Knott's can do great things. I think Bigfoot Rapids is a fun experience and can't wait to see the new version unveiled. I also can recognize when Knotts puts out something bare bones and lackluster. Iron Reef isn't a good attraction. Not because it isn't as good as Disney, but because it is lifeless and boring. Knott's could of done better and has done better.

 

[Ismael Flores]

Went to Knotts's for the first half of today! It was very fun. Here is a fun question I thought of while I was there: What is the worst ride to get stuck on and why?

Iron Reef was a 0.5 and done for me. Halfway through I just put down the shooter and closed my eyes until it was over. It's such a cacophony of clutter.

LOL i did the same but instead of closing my eyes i kept trying to figure out what the story was for the mess i was seeing. We were a group of six and we all came out of it saying was that about. The graphics were cool and passing thru the old panel that used to be the time machine tunnel for Dino was interesting but if it had some kind of storyline it was lost to all of us.

 

[DanielBB8]

Fastpass doesn't have you skip the HM Foyer and Stretching Room. Fastpass doesn't have you skip the TOT Library. Fastpass doesn't have you skip the magic mirror in Enchanted Tales.

First, when you said you bypassed the preshow of Iron Reef, only you did it. I never bypassed it. It’s as if your experience is normal for everyone else. Comparing all Disney attractions is somehow normal to compare to Knott’s. Many rides have FP where you quickly walk pass the preshows like Buzz Lightyear and Toy Story Mania where you don’t see the Buzz or Mr Potatohead spiel because you’re walking past it quickly.

And I know what's Knott's is. I love Calico Mine Train and Timber Mountain Log Ride. I loved the Haunted Shack. I thought Kingdom on the Dinosaurs was phenomenal for Knott's. The Soapbox Racers were a blast on a Knott's budget. I even appreciate the themeing in Jaguar's queue, even if we lost the fire/fog effects way too early on the attraction. Knott's can do great things. I think Bigfoot Rapids is a fun experience and can't wait to see the new version unveiled. I also can recognize when Knotts puts out something bare bones and lackluster. Iron Reef isn't a good attraction. Not because it isn't as good as Disney, but because it is lifeless and boring. Knott's could of done better and has done better.

Every chance you get, Disney is used as comparison. This has never changed. Knott’s isn’t Disney.

 

[Phroobar]

First, when you said you bypassed the preshow of Iron Reef, only you did it. I never bypassed it. It’s as if your experience is normal for everyone else. Comparing all Disney attractions is somehow normal to compare to Knott’s. Many rides have FP where you quickly walk pass the preshows like Buzz Lightyear and Toy Story Mania where you don’t see the Buzz or Mr Potatohead spiel because you’re walking past it quickly.

Every chance you get, Disney is used as comparison. This has never changed. Knott’s isn’t Disney.

Every time I ride Iron Reef, I have to walk through the preshow area even if no one is in there. I guess this guy went under the chain. Probably a habit he learned at Disneyland.

 

[Ismael Flores]

Ok now im curious as to where this pre-show area is. I remember a television displaying trivia of rides and wait times of all the parks major rides, I don't remember a pre-show area.

The bottom queue and indoor sectionwere empty when we rode it. We did have to walk thru the inside portion and then was excited because i would get on ride fast but it turned out to be a 30 minute wait. For some odd reason the workers were loading some cars, leaving several empty and others with only two or three people depending on group size. Several cars just passed by because they were to busy having fun gossiping.

 

[Professortango1]

Every time I ride Iron Reef, I have to walk through the preshow area even if no one is in there. I guess this guy went under the chain. Probably a habit he learned at Disneyland.

Nope, went through the normal queue and told to keep moving by employees. Wouldn't call that a preshow.