Alice in Wonderland

SosoDude

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Saw it last night and I have to say that my 12 year old daughter and I enjoyed it. Beautiful 3D and great casting choice for Alice and both Queens. Depp as the Hatter was OK , from time to time I could hear a "little" Jack Sparrow in there, but other than that , he did a good job. Did I mention the graphic effects were beautiful ?
 

Ilovewishes

Member
I am so glad someone else heard Jack Sparrow in there! Was starting to think I had dreamt it!

I loved the film, absolutely adored it. My sister, however, hated it. She said the Mad Hatter was being overly quirky just for the sake of it, Alice looked like she was ill and just couldn't be bothered and it just wasn't funny at all. Apparently is was okay if you are easily pleased.:eek:

We've argued it out and I've come to the conclusion that there is just no accounting for some people!:lol:
 

Mikester71

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This was my first 3D movie experience (didn't see Avatar yet) and I think it is going to be hard to watch a movie in 2D again after seeing Alice yesterday. I too heard a bit of Jack Sparrow in Depp's Hatter, said this to my wife on our way out and she even agreed. Overall, I thought it was an excellent movie. Can't wait to see more movies in 3D here soon!!! :sohappy:
 

Disneyfanman

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We saw it opening weekend. No rave reviews here. Just "pretty good". Spectacular visuals and terrific characters, but (just as I felt in Princess and the Frog) pacing issues in the middle act that bored me. Interestingly enough I haven't ever really loved a filmed version of Alice and this was the best one. I've always thought it was one of those impossible stories to capture on film.

The pacing reminded me of the Corpse Bride (a weird comparison). I felt the same way there. Great opening and closing, but a middle that just wandered. Compare it to Bolt in which the middle was (IMHO) the strongest part of the film. I think that Burton struggles with this.

The visuals and characterizations of those familiar weirdos are enough to recommend the film. Conceptually the story changes strengthen the movie. I wish I had thought it was brilliant.
 

_Scar

Active Member
I thought it was following Disney's Alice-formula for the majority of the movie with some of the best character interaction scenes, but at the end it did not work out.

*spoiler*



The odd dance at the end really killed it for me. It took any bit of seriousness the ending had- and it didn't have a lot of it to begin with. It also ruined a lot of the great things I'd thought about the Hatter until that point. If they didn't have that dance then I would've probably loved it.
 

yeti

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Saw it last night and I have to say that my 12 year old daughter and I enjoyed it. Beautiful 3D and great casting choice for Alice and both Queens. Depp as the Hatter was OK , from time to time I could hear a "little" Jack Sparrow in there, but other than that , he did a good job. Did I mention the graphic effects were beautiful ?

That's too bad...I thought the same thing when I saw Sweeny Todd.

:(
 

Demeter Tess

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I'll be the odd one out and say I thought it was absolutely terrible. A waste of talent and money, all around. Burton took a series that was practically written FOR him and mucked up characters [Red Queen vs. Queen of Hearts], diluted exchanges that could have been far more witty, and altered the singular tone of the books to resemble "generic fantasy epic #230942." [The entire "slay the jabberwocky" plot was highly un-Carroll.] The script was a travesty, unfocused and sluggish. Hathaway's role was an insult to her acting ability, and let's face it, we've all seen Johnny Depp play the Mad Hatter before. In practically every other movie he's done. Burton's love affair with Depp was one of the biggest downfalls of the movie, making much more of the Hatter character than need be. [My significant other joked that the film ought to have been called "Johnny Depp in Wonderland," he was so frequently overused.] Many of the Hatter scenes were so out-of-character they made me cringe. And Crispin Glover? What a thoroughly trite character and possibly the most ridiculous eyepatch I've ever seen. In general there were costuming aspects that bothered me, but as a hobbyist costumer I'm picky about these things. The movie could very easily have clocked in 20 minutes shorter and been so much better for it, the amount of extraneous material was THAT large. And why was it called "Alice in Wonderland" if the world is, in fact, named "Underland?" Oh, and dare I mention THE DANCE? As soon as I saw Johnny Depp BREAK CHARACTER COMPLETELY and start jigging up and down, I almost impulsively stood up to walk out of the theatre.

I'll admit there were really only three characters I enjoyed: Alice [who held the movie together, SOMEHOW], The Red Queen [HBC is always delightful, though], and the Cheshire Cat. And for someone who's always been a little creeped out by the Cheshire Cat to admit that he was her favourite character, really says something. I guess the CC's "creep out factor" was not as high as watching Johnny Depp fumble through hundreds of accents in way too many scenes or Crispin Glover flounce around with a heart on his eye.

In general, it was one of the biggest wastes of talent and money I've seen in a long while. All the right players were there - I happen to adore Burton's directing as well as most of the actors chosen for the movie, and the visual effects were stellar - but with such a poor script and supreme lack of focus, the movie was a complete flop.
 

DisGal

Member
I saw it last night and I guess my expectations were too high because I thought it was just okay. The visuals were great, but I did not like the story at all. I love the man, but I thought this was Johnny Depp's worst acting ever.
 

imagineer boy

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I loved the movie as well, but I agree that I was a little disapointed in Depp's performance. The way he constantly changed accents, when he'd switch from loony to serious, etc it was a bit too unpredictable. And yeah, I hated the dance at the end too.

But other than that I thought the rest of the movie was very beautiful and entertaining.
 

stitch2008

Member
In general, it was one of the biggest wastes of talent and money I've seen in a long while. All the right players were there - I happen to adore Burton's directing as well as most of the actors chosen for the movie, and the visual effects were stellar - but with such a poor script and supreme lack of focus, the movie was a complete flop.

Everyone is allowed to have opinions. But flop this is not. At least from a financial point of view. The production budget for the film was about $200 million. Worldwide in two weeks, Alice has made $462 million. http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=aliceinwonderland10.htm

Last week it made more money then Remember Me, Shes Out of My League, and Green Zone combined( I remember reading that on comingsoon.net) It also will most likley be the top movie this week as well. I enjoyed Alice and there were things that I didnt like. The dance could be added to that list. But in terms of money, this is not a flop.
 

Matt and Kelly

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I saw the movie this past weekend and really enjoyed it. Great effects, cool story, just a good movie all around.

Johnny Depp was good, but I thought the Alice character was terrific.
 

CastleBound

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I wasn't a big fan of the movie... I was kind of bored throughout the whole thing. Maybe it was the mix of talking animals, crazy set pieces and such. I just wasn't very interested in it. Plus, to me, the 3D wasn't very good. I have seen much better 3D. Probably because it wasn't filmed for 3D, it was added after the fact.

The end was the only part that interested me. I enjoyed the battle with the dragon thing-y (the name escapes me right now). I thought that part was cool.
Other than that, not too much to say about it for me...
 

Demeter Tess

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Everyone is allowed to have opinions. But flop this is not. At least from a financial point of view.
I thought it was fairly obvious that I was posting my opinion. Even the most successful of movie ventures can be considered colossal flops by many - I don't know a single person who has applauded the scripts of recent financially-successful movies like Twilight, the latest Harry Potter, or Ice Age 3. Fact is, practically anything that Tim Burton makes anymore is going to be a financial success. Doesn't mean it's good.

[And just to cover my butt here, I love Tim Burton. Just got back from seeing his exhibit at the MoMA in NYC over the weekend. Love his stop-motion work more than anything else, though, and find myself wishing he'd go back to doing original work.]
 

stitch2008

Member
I thought it was fairly obvious that I was posting my opinion. Even the most successful of movie ventures can be considered colossal flops by many - I don't know a single person who has applauded the scripts of recent financially-successful movies like Twilight, the latest Harry Potter, or Ice Age 3. Fact is, practically anything that Tim Burton makes anymore is going to be a financial success. Doesn't mean it's good.

[And just to cover my butt here, I love Tim Burton. Just got back from seeing his exhibit at the MoMA in NYC over the weekend. Love his stop-motion work more than anything else, though, and find myself wishing he'd go back to doing original work.]

I agree on all fronts. Burton has a giant fan base and so does Depp. That alone and assures financial success. In honesty, I thought Alice was ok. It was slow in some places but good in others.

Oh and about the "opinion", I mean no offense. I was just stating that I was trying to say you couldn't say what you wanted to say. Sorry about that.:wave:
 

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