Adam the woo is back!

[raven]

People can change.

You only have ONE chance to make a good impression. Unfortunately for him, he chose to make it a bad impression on several people.

Apparently there is a 4 year statute of limitations for trespassing on private or public property (statute 95.11 in Florida) ?

So if this is true, then it pretty much confirms what others have already speculated.... he did something wrong recently, or the day he was banned, and it didn't have to do with the backstage videos, etc. from nearly 5 years ago.

But that's only tonoress charges against him. They don't need to prosecute in order to ban him.

 

[raven]

Fat thumb syndrome, sorry.

 

[rushtest4echo]

Apparently there is a 4 year statute of limitations for trespassing on private or public property (statute 95.11 in Florida) ?

So if this is true, then it pretty much confirms what others have already speculated.... he did something wrong recently, or the day he was banned, and it didn't have to do with the backstage videos, etc. from nearly 5 years ago.

Disney and Universal have 'watch lists', as do smaller parks. As a teenager I remember seeing people being escorted out of Knott's and Magic Mountain right after the offending party entered the property. Security filmed the whole thing with huge beta cameras (Im assuming to provide to law enforcement). While that probably sounds farfetched, my friends and I spent A LOT of time sitting around waiting for friends/parents to pick us up at the front gate, often for hours (no cell phones back then).

I doubt that they have an issue with enforcing the ban for as long as they care to even with that statute. When I worked at Universal (admittedly a long time ago), anyone who was ' trespassed ' was essentially banned for life.

 

[raven]

He couldn't have changed that much.

A simple search on YouTube delivered this video he posted only a little over a year ago. And while he didn't go into backstage areas he still waited for everyone to leave an area to look behind a curtain of an area that was intentionally blocked (at 8:50 mark).



Obviously he can't shake his old ways completely. This type of filming behavior also sends up red flags to security.

 

[celluloid]

There are always many sides to a story.

Also, I am betting it did not help that he shouted to The Rock as seen in that video, even though The Rock oblidged a gesture of acknowledgement. That likely drew more attention to himself and left a bad taste in security's mouth.

 

[Brer Oswald]

When was this?

Probably never happened. I love how people complain about how rude and disrespectful he is as a person, when they are being the exact same way towards him. Let's all just agree to disagree and move our separate ways. Continuing to complain and spread hatred of him doesn't benefit anyone.

 

[Bartattack]

I'm pretty sure it was more than just the video from 5 years ago... They could've have 'got him' much earlier... when he buys his annual passes or all the other times he was at Universal. They could've asked to take the videos down etc...So something propbably happened at the day when he got banned that ticked of security. They probably didn't like him shouting or drawing attention to him and used the 5 year old video thing to strengthen their case.

 

[flynnibus]

Apparently there is a 4 year statute of limitations for trespassing on private or public property (statute 95.11 in Florida) ?

So if this is true, then it pretty much confirms what others have already speculated.... he did something wrong recently, or the day he was banned, and it didn't have to do with the backstage videos, etc. from nearly 5 years ago.

That limit would not apply here. He wasn't trespassed previously and arrested.. he was notified now. They don't need a reason to trespass him as long as it's not discriminatory against protected classes.

 

[raven]

Probably never happened. I love how people complain about how rude and disrespectful he is as a person, when they are being the exact same way towards him.

Are you Adam's friend or something? If that person said he was rude when he saw him then that is his own personal recollection of him, not your obligation to probe.

To further prove Adam's ongoing behavior, I found a video that he uploaded only a month ago. Incidently this was right after a dam collapse that was suspected of terrorist activity. But he can't understand why someone would be suspicious of him flying a drone over one?



He's totally playing into that creepy suspicious stereotype himself.

 

[Tom Morrow]

He thought he had entered a public park area and knew nothing about it before going in. I'll admit he isn't the brightest person.

In your previous example he... gasp... pulled a curtain back. Something I'm sure happened constantly by guests passing by. I'd put money on it that Disney actually loves that video.

 

[raven]

In your previous example he... gasp... pulled a curtain back. Something I'm sure happened constantly by guests passing by. I'd put money on it that Disney actually loves that video.

We aren't talking about other guests. We're talking about Adam's history of doing such things that he still can't shake, then posting it on YouTube essentially promting other guests to do the same. Yes, I'm sure Disney LOVES that.

 

[Brer Oswald]

This is just one of those conversations nobody can win. We clearly all have different opinions on Adam. Let's just let it go and stop spreading hatred against Adam and each other before someone's feelings are hurt.

 

[Alittlebitoftink]

I just saw the video this morning. I don't think they banned him just for a five year old video, and agree with a couple of posters on this thread that they kept a log. He probably got banned because he was yelling at The Rock while they were filming a segment for the show. If you watch Spokesmayne's video, he states he was kicked out for the day. Adam was being loud while the crowd was cheering, and I am guessing they(execs, producers, etc) weren't to happy about the interruption, so they banned Adam and kicked out Spokesmayne(even though he wasn't being loud). Adam does have a recent history of going places he shouldn't, it may because he doesn't think. I am a fan of his Americana blogs, but I think that in a year he could appeal to Uni about ban

 

[Tom Morrow]

In that video, he may have pulled back a curtain but everything else in the video was the same type of enthusiasm you'll find from "official" vloggers like Attractions Magazine. The type of stuff Disney sends media event invitations to. I see worse stuff from average guests on literally any visit to the parks.

I also think a lot of users on this forum don't have a solid grasp on the concept of urbex, or urban exploration, as a hobby. Adam has mostly moved away from it but there are a plethora of other urbex users who film the type of stuff Adam used to do. They are well aware of the risk - that is part of the thrill. But on this forum several users of course imply that they're morons.

FWIW, since I'm guessing much of this forum assumes his whole gig is being a "nuisance" at theme parks, Adam is only back in Orlando for a few weeks. He now tours the country in an RV, showcasing interesting locations and findings across the country, often stuff you would never ever hear about.

 

[raven]

I'm pretty sure it was more than just the video from 5 years ago... They could've have 'got him' much earlier... when he buys his annual passes or all the other times he was at Universal. They could've asked to take the videos down etc...So something propbably happened at the day when he got banned that ticked of security. They probably didn't like him shouting or drawing attention to him and used the 5 year old video thing to strengthen their case.

Well, I think I may have found another reason.

A couple of young fans of Adam have their own vlog and made videos calling Universal and telling them about people breaking in and filming. Calls to Universal on that number are recorded.

This video from October 2016 actually tells them Adam's name and about his video. Listen starting around the 4:30 minute mark:


This girl also made video in 2013 that also tells Universal (at the 4:00 minute mark) that "someone" got in there :


So it seems his own followers and fans trying to imitate him could be a big reason for this.

 

[raven]

In that video, he may have pulled back a curtain but everything else in the video was the same type of enthusiasm you'll find from "official" vloggers like Attractions Magazine. I see worse stuff from average guests on literally any visit to the parks.

The fact that he waited until the room was cleared of any other people indicated that he knew he shouldn't be doing that. The man hasn't changed.

 

[Tom Morrow]

"I cherry-picked one ridiculously minor thing to support my misguided hatred of this man that tons of people love"

I mean on any given visit to the parks I will see guests doing at least one of the following: littering, screaming, swearing, wearing inappropriate clothing, urinating somewhere they shouldn't, yelling at a CM to get their way even though they're wrong, attempting to scam CM's to get free stuff, line jumping, taking flash videos on a ride where they shouldn't be, smoking in areas they shouldn't be, not following ride safety rules... I could go on, but never mind all of that because Adam pulled back a curtain to see something he loved as a child and is therefore a terrible nuisance to Walt Disney World.

 

[Brer Oswald]

"I cherry-picked one ridiculously minor thing to support my misguided hatred of this man that tons of people love"

I mean on any given visit to the parks I will see guests doing at least one of the following: littering, screaming, swearing, wearing inappropriate clothing, urinating somewhere they shouldn't, yelling at a CM to get their way even though they're wrong, attempting to scam CM's to get free stuff, line jumping, taking flash videos on a ride where they shouldn't be, smoking in areas they shouldn't be, not following ride safety rules... I could go on, but never mind all of that because Adam pulled back a curtain to see something he loved as a child and is therefore a terrible nuisance to Walt Disney World.

Don't forget that "when somebody does something wrong, they never change or learn from their mistakes". Pulling back a curtain isn't an offence. But I guess he must of read the boards and knew that some people would freak out if they saw him doing that, which is why he probably did it when nobody was around. I guess if I look through the cracks of a wall blocking the progress of a new ride, I'm actually doing something wrong? I'm sure everyone on here has done exactly that simply because of our enthusiasm of this place we all love.

 

[raven]

"I cherry-picked one ridiculously minor thing to support my misguided hatred of this man that tons of people love"

I mean on any given visit to the parks I will see guests doing at least one of the following: littering, screaming, swearing, wearing inappropriate clothing, urinating somewhere they shouldn't, yelling at a CM to get their way even though they're wrong, attempting to scam CM's to get free stuff, line jumping, taking flash videos on a ride where they shouldn't be, smoking in areas they shouldn't be, not following ride safety rules... I could go on, but never mind all of that because Adam pulled back a curtain to see something he loved as a child and is therefore a terrible nuisance to Walt Disney World.

Do they post daily YouTube videos of themselves doing these things on their vlog that has over 100k subscribers? Do these theme parks have a record on file of their mischief and past security issues? Have these other guests already been trespassed from those properties and have those guests sworn to behave themselves?

It's pretty obvious he's a leader in that kind of mischief.

 

[flynnibus]

Let's just let it go and stop spreading hatred against Adam and each other before someone's feelings are hurt.

One could say the same about people trying to rewrite history.. stop it.

They are well aware of the risk - that is part of the thrill. But on this forum several users of course imply that they're morons.

I haven't seen anyone bad mouth urban explorers... only people who do things they know they are supposed to and then act innocent and the victim when the man finally catches up with them. Live and let live... just don't ask me to give you any sympathy for the consequences of your choices.