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[Figment632]

If you have an hourly ride capacity of 1000 and 1500 people are in line for the attraction it is going to take 1.5 hours to put everyone through this attraction, regardless of what system you use, be it FP or one single line.

So once again, unless it can be demonstrated that FP decreases hourly ride capacity the average wait per guest is the same.

I can appreciate your preference for having the attraction as a non-FP and that is your opinion. It is one I don't share though.

When math is put into quotation marks like it's some sort of befuddling wizard spell the conversation doesn't really seem worth it anymore.

I guess we are at a stand still here? I'm not talking capacity because wether FP is available or not won't affect the ammount of people that ride,

However I stand by what I said about a constantly moving line will always be shorter than than one thats not.

 

[ChrisFL]

wow, fastpass debate again...I'm shocked.

One quick note on FP's...There is NO scientific way to determine whether the use of FP's slows a regular line down, or by how much because EACH CM seems to handle the FP vs. regular line differently, at least in my experience.

As for Buzz, I agree, you can't say they should shut this one down because of TSMM. They DO need to upgrade the guns and targets because every other version of the ride is sooo much better.

There's Astro Orbiter, Dumbo and Aladdin's Magic Carpets, all of those are similar but different and Disney doesn't seem to be rushing to close them down anytime soon.

 

[panther726]

Saying that these two attractions are the same is bogus. Shall we compare rides at WDW that are similar. Boat rides: Jungle Cruise, Living with the Land. Two distinct attractions, but with this logic, because you ride in boats, it's the same. The roller coaster argument has already been made. Buzz is a great attraction, sure it can use a refurb, but it has no problem bringing in the numbers!

 

[SirGoofy]

Buzz is a great attraction

I disagree. Buzz isn't up to snuff, IMHO. Just go over to Uni and see what a real shoot 'em up attraction looks like.

The theming in Buzz is just so second rate.:shrug:

 

[Cindy'sBruno]

You are missing the point. Is the theme in Astro Orbitor, Dumbo, Carpets of Alladin....are they the same theme? Are they from the same movie? NO.:brick:They are all themed with something different but the same type of ride. The op is saying that BLSRS and TSMM are from the same movie, same theme, same shoot em game. Both are good, but in the future Disney will more than likely change BLSRS before they change TSMM. :animwink:


And just because a ride is constantley moving doesnt mean that there will be a shorter line. If thats true then why is Peter Pan always packed? Why is HH always packed?

 

[jakeman]

I guess we are at a stand still here? I'm not talking capacity because wether FP is available or not won't affect the ammount of people that ride,

However I stand by what I said about a constantly moving line will always be shorter than than one thats not.

But your first statement contradicts your second. If the ride capacity is not changed, then FP is not an issue because the attraction is putting the same amount of people through per hour.

It is impossible for the same amount of people to go through an attraction in the same amount of time and the average wait time for each guest to be increased.

While the standby line doesn't move as often and those people are experiencing an increased wait, overall there is no increase in the wait time.

So with that said we are at a stand still because assumptions and opinions are being substituted for facts and analysis. No hard feelings, its a fairly inconsequential topic since we as guest have little control over it.

 

[Figment632]

But your first statement contradicts your second. If the ride capacity is not changed, then FP is not an issue because the attraction is putting the same amount of people through per hour.

It is impossible for the same amount of people to go through an attraction in the same amount of time and the average wait time for each guest to be increased.

While the standby line doesn't move as often and those people are experiencing an increased wait, overall there is no increase in the wait time.

So with that said we are at a stand still because assumptions and opinions are being substituted for facts and analysis. No hard feelings, its a fairly inconsequential topic since we as guest have little control over it.

My whole point is that the stand by line wait time would be cut in half.

 

[jakeman]

My whole point is that the stand by line wait time would be cut in half.

At the expense of the people who have gotten Fastpasses and have little to no wait when they return.

Person A has a FP and waits 1 minute, Person B has no FP and waits 11 minutes. The average wait is 6 minutes. If you put them both in line, they will both wait 6 minutes. You have decreased Person B's wait at the expense of Person A.

I'm not responding again because I'm not sure how much clearer I can be.

 

[jonnyc]

At the expense of the people who have gotten Fastpasses and have little to no wait when they return.

Yes, but to the benifit of people in the stand-by queue.

 

[panther726]

I disagree. Buzz isn't up to snuff, IMHO. Just go over to Uni and see what a real shoot 'em up attraction looks like.

The theming in Buzz is just so second rate.:shrug:

I didn't think we were comparing with Uni shooting attractions. MIB is better than Buzz, yes. But I enjoy Buzz, and it brings in solid numbers.

 

[SirGoofy]

I didn't think we were comparing with Uni shooting attractions. MIB is better than Buzz, yes. But I enjoy Buzz, and it brings in solid numbers.

I am. I've seen the pinnacle of the shooting attraction, and I'd like to see Disney top it.

Of course that may be wishing too much.

 

[Figment632]

I am. I've seen the pinnacle of the shooting attraction, and I'd like to see Disney top it.

Of course that may be wishing too much.

I only rode MIB once but it is the best but it can be topped.

 

[Cindy'sBruno]

I only rode MIB once but it is the best but it can be topped.

???? What is MIB?:shrug::hammer:

 

[Cindy'sBruno]

Men In Black LOL:lol:

 

[jonnyc]

I am. I've seen the pinnacle of the shooting attraction, and I'd like to see Disney top it.

Of course that may be wishing too much.

It is the best i've ever been on. I really can't think how it could be topped...

...the only thing in my mind is live ammo and explosions :goodnevil.