A Terror-rific Spirited 13th (ToT fans have lots to fear)...

LuvtheGoof

LuvtheGoof

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PhotoDave219 said:
What kills me is that Guest Service is no longer about making sure the guest has a great experience, its about making sure the mouse gets all it can.... The guests are merely a commodity anymore.

That "Disney Difference" no longer exists.
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And when was your last visit to the house of mouse? Guest Service just last month was exemplary all over the place.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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njDizFan said:
Amazon...what a great evolution and history of a dynamic company. They started by selling books online in the 90's, not expecting to make a profit for half a decade. Since then they revolutionized the publishing business, changed the way we read books, became the most valuable retailer in the United States. And through their Prime brand became leaders in streaming music, books, movies, television. Their home based cloud systems and personal electronic assistant is changing the way we interact with our own house. Personally, Amazon changed my way of life more than any other corporation. They have automated my house, reading, music, television, I don't have to leave my couch to buy anything(including grocery items!) and it is in my hands 2 days or less.

Granted Bezos is not a pleasant person and may be undercutting the entire world's economy...
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Yes, the analogy isn't so much about the individual product or pricing strategy, but more about a leadership driving a vision and defining an identity.. then sticking to it and re-enforcing it as they evolve. A Disney vacation was not defined by POTC... just like Amazon was not defined by Book delivery. And its why both companies were able to expand and take on new industries while continuing that identity and that experiences customers expected along with that brand.

People will try Amazon products now purely based on the expectation that the brand brings. Disney built had built a similar loyalty through its past.. more so than almost any other company in that not only did it have loyalty, but the image and expectations were well understood even beyond its own customers and what lead to the common understanding that Disney = the 'must do' family/kid vacation.

People would pick to goto Disney before they even knew what Disney was selling.. that's how strong the brand and image was. That was not built by individual attractions or hotels.. that kind of market pull is built over repeated successes and common practices/results.
 
LuvtheGoof

LuvtheGoof

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PhotoDave219 said:
March.

I'm not talking about front line guest service, I'm talking straight up about being milked for every dime by the mouse.


When you're squeezed, it doesnt feel very magical. Thats what theyre selling, the experience?
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OK, glad that you felt the front line people are still great. While I certainly get that some people feel "milked", others, like us, do not. Different strokes and opinions allowed all around. :)
 
The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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Tahu said:
Camp Woodchuck at Tokyo is beautiful. You know how I keep talking about how nice it would have been if they had just upgraded Camp Minnie Mickey into some "North American wildlife through a Disney animation lens" area instead of Avatar? Because this is exactly the sort of stuff I'd like to see in such a concept.

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I love this. A brilliant mix of Disneyana, Americana and the current fashion for mid-century vintage.

I also liked CMM, the tone of it was right. It made for quite the pleasant stroll. Surely CMM inspired CW?

And yes, this + CMM would've been perfect as basis for a land in DAK, or even for the MK.
 
brb1006

brb1006

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Tahu said:
Camp Woodchuck at Tokyo is beautiful. You know how I keep talking about how nice it would have been if they had just upgraded Camp Minnie Mickey into some "North American wildlife through a Disney animation lens" area instead of Avatar? Because this is exactly the sort of stuff I'd like to see in such a concept.

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This puts Camp Minnie Mickey to shame
 
FigmentJedi

FigmentJedi

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Animaniac93-98 said:
At this point I'd be fine with replacing Dino Rama with some dirt and more trees.
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Mike S said:
If it could be made Dinosaur themed in some way and include a dark ride I'm all for it.
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A Mr. Toad-esque dark ride romp through an animated lost world or a re-jiggered take on the Roadside Dinosaur park concept that's actually feels like a dinosaur park with Utah/Colorado butte rockwork hiding the show-building and giving Dinoland some placemaking that actually makes sense in the process would be great.
Like the existing backstory for Dinoland claims that this is supposed to be somewhere in Florida even though dinosaurs are primarily a western thing and Florida was busy being underwater during the dinosaur age.
 
the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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Tahu said:
A Mr. Toad-esque dark ride romp through an animated lost world or a re-jiggered take on the Roadside Dinosaur park concept that's actually feels like a dinosaur park with Utah/Colorado butte rockwork hiding the show-building and giving Dinoland some placemaking that actually makes sense in the process would be great.
Like the existing backstory for Dinoland claims that this is supposed to be somewhere in Florida even though dinosaurs are primarily a western thing and Florida was busy being underwater during the dinosaur age.
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It's a pity The Good Dinosaur did so poorly because that film got a lot of things right. The environment designs and the role nature plays in the story were a highlight.
www.wired.com/2015/11/pixar-sharon-calahan
 

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