A Spirited Valentine ...

FigmentForver96

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Exactly my thoughts. Bravo. You said it better than I ever could. That's been my pet peeve for Pixar as of late.. there's always the "make you cry" moment that everyone latches onto and that's why that Pixar movie is "da best muvee evarr!11!!1". Then Disney Animation Studios started being more like Pixar and now they have a formula which is a lot like Pixar's. I dunno, I just feel like if you're expecting the twist/heartbreaking moment, it's a lot less impactful.
Disney has been doing the "heartbreaking moments" for a long time though. Bambi and Dumbo just off the top of my head.
 

VJ

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Disney has been doing the "heartbreaking moments" for a long time though. Bambi and Dumbo just off the top of my head.
True but since Tangled and/or Lasseter being made head of WDAS, the studio has had a specific formula "villain turns out to be person you think was good, tearjerker moment" etc. I don't think I'm getting my point across as well as I can but Tahu summed up my thoughts pretty well.
 

the.dreamfinder

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Cesar R M

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Thanks.

...not that the original Cars is much better.
All of those feel more like pet projects of Lasseter as much as they are feature-length commercials for die-cast toys.
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Cesar R M

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It's hard to watch something which brought so much joy to our family and friends being destroyed for the sake of short term profit.
Hopefully as the pixar studios start hemorrhaging. They will see a huge influx of talent leaving elsewhere, and will find home in another studio who will then restart the love for making original movies.

This is a repetitive constant that has been seen pretty constantly in game studios. Which are later bought by "evil" publishers and then reduced to dust by for the sake of commercialization and monetization.
 

Cesar R M

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It's not a secret because you say it a few dozen times in several hundred threads.

But anyways, for how many years have you been saying it is being run into the ground? Why isn't it already in the ground? And how many years until it is finally grounded?
Technically, the parks might have gone downhill if it wasnt for Potter to make Disney stop being lazy. They were forced to expend big on replacements and new lands.
 

Mike S

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Hopefully as the pixar studios start hemorrhaging. They will see a huge influx of talent leaving elsewhere, and will find home in another studio who will then restart the love for making original movies.

This is a repetitive constant that has been seen pretty constantly in game studios. Which are later bought by "evil" publishers and then reduced to dust by for the sake of commercialization and monetization.
EA doesn't only stand for Electronic Arts. It also means Enormous As... you get the idea.
 

UpAllNight

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We're in the early stages of our holiday and here's a few of my thoughts so far, from someone who isn't maybe as a frequent visitor as some of you are; (posting here as it seems a catch all!)

- Loved Epcot. In all honesty I think the updated Soarin is 10 times better than the original. It has leapt from what I considered a let down to one of my favourites, but there's definitely better seats which are worth skipping a ride if needs be to wait.

-What a Godsend single rider at Test Track is. We never queued more than 5 mins in a posted standby time ranging from 40-70 mins

-We really like Mission Space and think it's a unique experience that should be celebrated. But it does need the update that's on its way. Not convinced by the training aspect. An immersive 'real' mission is more Disney. An immersive mission with a purpose, would be more Epcot.

-Flower and Garden brings Epcot to life

-Wow the cast members have been extraordinary. Like increadible...the service has been so good that it's actually the less than average ones that stand out above the great ones as they seem so out of place

- Disney do Photopass better than what I remember Universal doing it a few years back (yet to revisit again this time). They were everywhere. Great value (well especially for us it was included in ticket price!)

-I love the Magic Bands and My Disney Experience has worked great so far, easily swapping fastpasses around. It is quieter than my last visit though, so that may be playing it's part.

-Frozen was well done for what it was, but still a few areas of dark blank space they could have done something with. AAs increadible.

-As much as I had a great day at Epcot, we avoided the entire imagination and energy pavilions as they're complete and utter trash. Like 2 of the worst rides in Orlando. Add that to the vacant Wonders of Life pavilion and there's so much room for improvement. They need to get a move on. Both pavilions looked empty as we walked past.

-Disney Springs was very well done

-I can see why they'd want a cable car system. People waiting around for busses aren't spending money in the parks, and a lot of time can be wasted waiting for them!

-Seaworld was again great but WOW was it swarmed by tribes of school kids. The park was actually really busy. Mako was spectacular. Lots of construction happening...Rapids ride, Krakens down, Dolphin Nursey. I think they're on a path to adding rides more frequently but the anchor of the park is still the animals and just seeing the amazement from some of the kids showed me Seaworld at its best. But wow the kids. Out of control doesn't cover it.
 
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Nmoody1

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I do not want to start a debate about ECVs as this topic has been more than thoroughly covered in other forums. However, I do have one observation to make. The reason you do not see ECV's in the other Disney parks is because the USA, to a large extent, is handicapped friendly while most other places are not... Elsewhere, even in " touristy" attractions and cities, if you are not able to get around on your own two feet, you are mostly out of luck, I guess if you are handicapped or old you are supposed to stay home..
EDIT. The problems are transportation, curbs, door sills, steps and stairs.

I'd argue that you don't see as many in California. Id say the average day at Disneyland youd see 2 or 3 max. Its a conpletely different story in Orlando. I'd also say every Disney park is accessible by ADA standards and local standards.
 

RoysCabin

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Because Zootopia wasn't a worthy winner?

Not quite sure how you read that from my post, but I saw both of those films plus Moana in theaters, and simply found Kubo to be the superior film. One of my favorite animated films to see in years, I had hoped an Oscar win would've given it a bit more recognition since it only did so-so at the box office.

Sad part is, unfortunately, many voters at the Oscars admit that Best Animated Film is a category they often don't actually watch the nominated films for; not saying that would've changed the outcome at the Oscars, but sadly some categories just don't get taken very seriously.
 

Princess Leia

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Not quite sure how you read that from my post, but I saw both of those films plus Moana in theaters, and simply found Kubo to be the superior film. One of my favorite animated films to see in years, I had hoped an Oscar win would've given it a bit more recognition since it only did so-so at the box office.

Sad part is, unfortunately, many voters at the Oscars admit that Best Animated Film is a category they often don't actually watch the nominated films for; not saying that would've changed the outcome at the Oscars, but sadly some categories just don't get taken very seriously.
I read some anonymous Oscar ballots this year, and it's almost appalling how little they care. One picked the movie her grandchildren liked the most. Another said they weren't voting because they didn't care. A third said they didn't understand how to vote in this category.

Nowadays, there are a vast number of animated films that are released theatrically, and they use different mediums. You have computer animation, 2D/hand drawn, and stop motion (those are the three I can think of occurring the most). Does a voter choose based on the quality of animation? Or is it for the story? Big Hero 6 may have had an okay story and decent animation, but I still say that How to Train Your Dragon 2 was leagues better in terms of animation. I wasn't able to see Song of the Sea, but I heard the story was phenomenal. And what won? BH6, because it was a Disney movie. :(
 

Princess Leia

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How I would fix the Animated Oscar category (and then I'll shut up about it): create 2 categories, one for 3D/computer animated, and one for 'the others' (2D, stopmotion, painted like the Van Gogh film). While this doesn't solve the animation vs story conundrum, it at least pushes the artistic medium to the front. And who knows, it could make Disney want to dabble in 2D again.
 

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