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A Spirited Valentine ...

Magic Feather

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Can any of our insiders shut this down if not possible, but any chance they add a coaster themed to Indy and re-theme Dinosaur to Indy? (There was a post suggesting Dinosaur could be re-themed). I love the franchise but wouldn't want to see it in Animal Kingdom. Only thing I can think of that would replace that area and would be an easy thing for them to do. I'm not saying I've heard that's what they'll do but what else could replace the area? I'd rather they just dump Chester and Hester's Dinorama and add the Excavator coaster and plus Dinosaur. @marni1971 @Magic Feather @WildcatDen
All I've heard is that the land is on the overhaul radar.
To (slightly) elaborate, there are two timeframes and two projects being looked at for DAK, both before its 30th, one of which is a Dinoland project, which is all but for, Dinoland options include, and are not limited to: a DinoRama gut and replace, a Dinoland retheme, a Theater in the Wild demo... And others.
 

Kman101

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To (slightly) elaborate, there are two timeframes and two projects being looked at for DAK, both before its 30th, one of which is a Dinoland project, which is all but for, Dinoland options include, and are not limited to: a DinoRama gut and replace, a Dinoland retheme, a Theater in the Wild demo... And others.
Thank you!! Appreciate what you can share ... I recognize it's fairly far off. But I hope they do it right whatever they decide on.
 

asianway

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I doubt they massaged the crowds to appear larger. Let's not. We don't have proof of that. Are you another one who's not a fan of Pandora and wants to downplay it? It was opening day, it's no gauge of the overall success of the land but crowds weren't manipulated. So many conspiracy theories about WDW and how they do things. I don't love a lot of their management and how they run things but you really think they sat there and said let's manipulate the crowds to make it appear more popular than it is? LOL, sorry but I really disagree with that.
AK has underperformed for 19 years despite most everything there, including Pandora, being well done. At this point failure isn't an option
 

Nj4mwc

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It is not a conspiracy if its true. It does not take much of an effort to hold up a line to allow it to get longer. Do I believe they would do this in an effort to have photos of HUGE opening day crowds a la HP opening? Absolutely. Would I do the same thing if I were an exec? Absolutely. Am I saying this because I want to downplay Pandora? Absolutely not.
Apple and Nintendo do this with every product launch, they short the inventory so all the stories are about a first day sell out, Disney execs would be stupid to not massage the lines a bit to get the best possible crowd pics. The average person is going to see the opening day coverage and that's all they will remember. The average person is not coming to this site or others like it. First impressions are vital
 

doctornick

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I'm kind of used to Dinorama now. I'd rather real expansion than replacement, although replacement can often be an expansion.
As much as I agree that Dinorama is a blight on DAK, I think the park needs another expansion -- at least adding another ride to Asia and/or Africa -- before closing Dinorama and replacing it. Especially now with longer hours and larger crowds due to Pandora, they can't really afford to lose 2 of their precious few rides for a while.

That said, I wouldn't complain if they dusted off the Excavator plans. Or find some use for the UoE dinosaurs for a family dark ride in Dinoland USA. I certainly would think that they can and should keep a dinosaur area in DAK.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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As much as I agree that Dinorama is a blight on DAK, I think the park needs another expansion -- at least adding another ride to Asia and/or Africa -- before closing Dinorama and replacing it. Especially now with longer hours and larger crowds due to Pandora, they can't really afford to lose 2 of their precious few rides for a while.

That said, I wouldn't complain if they dusted off the Excavator plans. Or find some use for the UoE dinosaurs for a family dark ride in Dinoland USA. I certainly would think that they can and should keep a dinosaur area in DAK.
Excavator plans? Were they any good?
 

BrianLo

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To (slightly) elaborate, there are two timeframes and two projects being looked at for DAK, both before its 30th, one of which is a Dinoland project, which is all but for, Dinoland options include, and are not limited to: a DinoRama gut and replace, a Dinoland retheme, a Theater in the Wild demo... And others.
The 30th... or 25th? Or you mean the plan is to have one in the next five years and a second in the five year period after that.
 

britain

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If they can make Indy fit in an ocean-themed park, they can make Indy fit in an animal-themed park.
 
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doctornick

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If they can make Indy fit in an ocean-themed park, they can make Indy fit in an animal-themed park.
While think they could be tortuous and fit Indy into DAK if they wished, it seems silly since (1) there are plenty of other IPs to use in DAK that would be better and (2) Indy could be used easily and more effectively in DHS or Adventureland.

I'm still wishing that someone at WDI could get a variant of Lost Expedition approved to replace the stunt show and the backstage space going into the parking lot.
 

jt04

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I still think an Adventurers/Explorers land within natural settings could work at DAK. Just might need a much bigger pad than Dinoland offers. Doubt they would ever do it but the possibilities are numerous.
 

JenniferS

You’re nothing. But not to me.
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Now that the park is open after dark, Dino-Rama has actually become more valid as an area. Its lightning package is one of the better things about it and does wonders to make the roadside amusement park aesthetic almost charming.
It would be nice if they toned down, or better yet turned off, the annoying sound effects on Primeval Hurl. That part of the park was blissfully silent during our last visit.

It's bad enough that DinoRama looks like the CNE. It shouldn't sound like it too.
 

Mike S

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So, its senseless fun. But not as bad as Tranformers.. right?
The first Transformers was good though.
To (slightly) elaborate, there are two timeframes and two projects being looked at for DAK, both before its 30th, one of which is a Dinoland project, which is all but for, Dinoland options include, and are not limited to: a DinoRama gut and replace, a Dinoland retheme, a Theater in the Wild demo... And others.
The theater would definitely open up som great space but I really like Nemo. Quite the conflict.
 

BrianLo

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Indy neither fits the overt (Animals) or the subtext (Conservation, Relationship with nature) themes of AK.

It doesn't fit the overt (Sea), but actually matches the subtext (Exploration) themes of TDS.

Let Indy thrive in DHS and don't homogenize Animal Kingdom in the process. I have a feeling the new theme (and name) of the former will be either Adventure or Exploration.
 

AEfx

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Apple and Nintendo do this with every product launch, they short the inventory so all the stories are about a first day sell out, Disney execs would be stupid to not massage the lines a bit to get the best possible crowd pics. The average person is going to see the opening day coverage and that's all they will remember. The average person is not coming to this site or others like it. First impressions are vital
Even if there wasn't, erm, manual massaging that day - clearly, Disney wanted to make a statement. They ran nationwide ads during prime-time advertising it, with a specific date - the 26th. I cannot remember Disney ever advertising anything at WDW with a specific date like that. Usually they don't start running things like that until "Now at WDW..." They clearly wanted to make "opening day" newsworthy (even though it had mostly been open for weeks).

I said it in the review thread, but it seems relevant here - Pandora made AK more, well, AK. A better AK, no doubt. It's a positive that the park is finally a full-day affair, it sorely needed more rides, and the quality and money spent is a breath of fresh air. But...it's not a game changer. It's going to draw more guests toward AK, particularly at night. Again, a great thing.

When you realize it's easier already to get into Pandora than it is to ride GoG over at DCA - I think we are also seeing that theme does in fact matter.
 
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