the.dreamfinder
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They did try to build a Disney complex in Okinawa during the aughts so it wasn't like they weren't doing anything.
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I haven't been around here much over the past week or so and, unfortunately, there is a very sad reason for that.
I don't know quite what to say because I'm not sure what his family, his daughter, would be comfortable placing out in public (he was a very private person, which I want to respect) ... but like a lot of people here, there was a lot more to the person behind the poster. So, so much more. And the world is a lesser place without him being here with us.
A far lesser place.
I am SO sorry for your loss!!!!! Praying for his family. I know it must be a terrible time.
Kman101
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I wouldn't mind a completely updated Jungle Cruise, If they chose that route, but I wouldn't want to see Rock AA's just shoved in there like Johnny Depp in Pirates. That's lazy. (Though I know people go nuts for both of them so they'd eat it up)
Sort of ironic how the movie will be based on the classic ride which then probably gets updated because of the movie ... thus losing the classic the movie was based on to begin (if it does extremely well, of course), but it's a ways off so .... and even then I doubt they do anything
prfctlyximprct
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@WDW1974 And here I thought you were the Tin Man of the forums. On a more serious note, I am so sorry for your loss. Teared up at your post. 
You are in my thoughts. The people of the Wdwmagic forums, despite their varying opinions, are all good people who share a common passion for Disney. Life is much too short.
You are in my thoughts. The people of the Wdwmagic forums, despite their varying opinions, are all good people who share a common passion for Disney. Life is much too short. 
Mike S
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Why can't they just have a funeral scene with a short explanation that there was some attack which then gives every character even more reason to give that final push against the First Order in EPIX? At least it won't be CGI...
180º
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Eh, I think that would confuse the tone of the attraction, especially at WDW where it was designed from scratch to be whimsical and gag-filled. Marc Davis did it perfectly the first time, and the caricature of the setting perfectly sets the tone for both gags and moodier interludes like the sunken temple. If they were to give the attraction a more sincere, stoic narrative, I'm afraid the aesthetic of the ride would stop appearing as charming and caricatured and start reading as just...awkwardly, slightly inaccurate.
Completely unrelated, RandySavage, but I'm a big fan of your work. (Not the macho man thing; the environmental design thing. Ha ha.)
ItlngrlBella
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I haven't been around here much over the past week or so and, unfortunately, there is a very sad reason for that.
This community lost a dear and valued member and I lost a very cherished spirit in my life. The poster known as @wogwog passed away suddenly and quite unexpectedly in the Orlando area recently and I was upstate with his family and friends for the services.
Wogwog, like a lot of the best people in my life, came into my life through this site (and is why I remain here largely), was a very special and unique personality. Two of the biggest loves in his life were his amazing daughter, also a dear friend, and spending time cruising. One huge regret I have is that we were never able to get on a ship at the same time and never will. He had two fascinating careers before moving to FL a decade ago and was a great storyteller. As I told my significant other 'Angie M' when she finally got to meet him, ''this guy has some great stories -- and at least half of them are true!'' He served his country with honor. He traveled the world. (He ate a lot of cruise line food!) And he never lost his sense of humor, most especially about Disney and its fans and what they did or didn't understand.
He was supposed to be traveling to SDL for the first time later this year, very much looking forward to it, and was a bit more of a fan than he might have wanted people to believe. I will truly miss hanging out with him, talking about Disney and far more. But, most of all, I will miss spending time with him period.
I don't know quite what to say because I'm not sure what his family, his daughter, would be comfortable placing out in public (he was a very private person, which I want to respect) ... but like a lot of people here, there was a lot more to the person behind the poster. So, so much more. And the world is a lesser place without him being here with us.
A far lesser place.
@WDW1974 I am so very sorry for your loss and everyone's loss here - he made the forum a better place, as I am sure he did in your life and our world. He will be missed.
RandySavage
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Gracias. I agree that the Marc Davis style/tone is integral to the attraction, as it is to Pirates. I think the Ravenscroft spiel is much closer to Davis' intent than the current live ones you might hear, that include lots of "hip", modern self-aware jokes (i.e. about elephant Donald Trunk or real ducks being the only fake animals on the ride). I grew up on the great recorded spiels (classic EPCOT Center, Haunted Mansion, Mark Twain, 20,000K, Tower of Terror, Great Movie Ride 1.0 ("You are aboard the Nostromo")) and would always opt for a classic pre-record over a live spiel delivered at a mediocre level. The Age of the Pre-recorded Spiel seems to be over, sadly for me.
HMF
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Actually, I would argue the age of live tour guides is over considering supposedly both Jungle Cruise and GMR Cast Members are apparently told to behave like robots.
Brad Rex wanted to shutter/destroy the pavilion. It was saved by the cartoon fish (as I used to lecture the EPCOT Explorer about). And because it was saved, it can be updated and changed again. If it had been closed, it would be dead.
And Ratatouille is one of Pixar's truly great films and, obviously, is a perfect fit at WDSP. I am not thrilled about the prospects of it coming to EPCOT either but one thing rationally has little to do with the other.
I don't get to TDR enough to be disappointed with anything. So glad to be heading back soon! ... But, again, there were extenuating circumstances behind the delays and changes ... and I don't mind.
I do worry that in a decade TDS will be nothing but a park dedicated to Duffy and his family and friends, but beyond that I see a very positive trajectory for those parks.
HMF
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And what is the likelihood it will revert back to a character-free or at least EPCOT-Worthy Pavilion?
IanDLBZF
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My thoughts and prayers do go out to you. @wogwog will greatly be missed by all.I haven't been around here much over the past week or so and, unfortunately, there is a very sad reason for that.
This community lost a dear and valued member and I lost a very cherished spirit in my life. The poster known as @wogwog passed away suddenly and quite unexpectedly in the Orlando area recently and I was upstate with his family and friends for the services.
Wogwog, like a lot of the best people in my life, came into my life through this site (and is why I remain here largely), was a very special and unique personality. Two of the biggest loves in his life were his amazing daughter, also a dear friend, and spending time cruising. One huge regret I have is that we were never able to get on a ship at the same time and never will. He had two fascinating careers before moving to FL a decade ago and was a great storyteller. As I told my significant other 'Angie M' when she finally got to meet him, ''this guy has some great stories -- and at least half of them are true!'' He served his country with honor. He traveled the world. (He ate a lot of cruise line food!) And he never lost his sense of humor, most especially about Disney and its fans and what they did or didn't understand.
He was supposed to be traveling to SDL for the first time later this year, very much looking forward to it, and was a bit more of a fan than he might have wanted people to believe. I will truly miss hanging out with him, talking about Disney and far more. But, most of all, I will miss spending time with him period.
I don't know quite what to say because I'm not sure what his family, his daughter, would be comfortable placing out in public (he was a very private person, which I want to respect) ... but like a lot of people here, there was a lot more to the person behind the poster. So, so much more. And the world is a lesser place without him being here with us.
A far lesser place.
DCL has the worst desserts at sea of any of the major lines. Truly. And I complain every time on our surveys and even speak to people on the ships. Their answer is upcharge gelato locations. That isn't what I was looking for. Celebrity had 8-10 flavors free at their buffet when I cruised with them. Every Princess dessert made me want to lick the dishes. ... Disney does amazing desserts in its resort and theme park upscale locales. There is no excuse for this at sea.
I think the tone of the Jungle Cruise is perfectly fine. It has been running like this for many decades. You don't need to change it at all. Way too many other things to pick than that nit.
Daveeeeed
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That's true, but rotational dining more than makes up for it. Not too fond of the steaks either, but the service, seafood, and of course the atmosphere are always on point. Not to mention soda being included is a plus.
Especially considering how much Disney has tried to sell OLC on various major projects being built in the USA (Cars Land and Pandora immediately come to mind), I wholeheartedly agree on the double standards deal.
HMF
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Maybe the OLC Executives actually have an appreciation for theme unlike stateside Disney.
Hate Star Wars movie talk in my threads, but I recall people jumping on me when I said I bought the stories that Iger and Co wanted to CGI her for the next film ... now this? I can't wait to see how Disney contorts things to make sure the Princess/General is in Episode IX.