GoofGoof
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Except this Vinnie is French CanadianI had a cousin Vinnie. . .
No, not really
Except this Vinnie is French CanadianI had a cousin Vinnie. . .
No, not really
I'm not butthurt. I honestly don't "get" Nintendo and this crazy reaction to it. I'm not a huge Potter fan but that hype makes sense to me. I can look around pop culture and see "yeah, Potter is going to do gangbusters for Universal." Similarly, I'm not the biggest Star Wars guy but I see the value of the brand because I have eyeballs. My point about Nintendo specifically is that I don't see anywhere near the cultural awareness about that brand as I do with Potter, Star Wars, or Marvel.
Huge win in Japan though, that's for sure.
How many people are at guest relations complaining about 120 minute waits for Mine Train? None?
I disagree, and I break with @Lee on this one as well. Frozestrom is not a "guest experience" play for the sake of Frozen fans. It's a "guest experience" play at the expense of Frozen fans. The queue is a giant pen that they're going to stuff as many little princesses into as they possibly can. It's not about making sure that as many people as possible get to experience a Frozen attraction, it's about essentially trapping all of the Frozen-obsessed people in one place so that the non-Frozen-obsessed people can experience Fantasyland in comparative peace and quiet (yes, that's an exaggeration). This will alleviate standby demand on all Fantasyland attractions and FP+ demand on Pan, Pooh, Mine Train, and the Mountains.
no Samus of Metroid? Son, I am disappoint..I suspect this Nintendoland will only have a handful of those characters you mentioned. Better to do a couple right as opposed to a hodgepodge. I'm guessing we get Mario, Pokemon, Donkey Kong and maybe Zelda. If UNI creative knocks this out of the park, it would be a pretty big black eye for Disney when it comes to who executes better.
Apples and oranges.How many people are at guest relations complaining about 120 minute waits for Mine Train? None?
I'm sure that is how the guests who are lured into the Frozen trap will feel.I disagree, and I break with @Lee on this one as well. Frozestrom is not a "guest experience" play for the sake of Frozen fans. It's a "guest experience" play at the expense of Frozen fans.
This is one of the most boneheaded statements I have ever read on this site.Ride systems don't mean anything in regards to capacity. Dispatch intervals do though...
I kinda see Nintendo as the "Oswald the Rabbit" of video gaming. Theyre still relevant, but have been passed and then lapped a few times by Xbox and Playstation. There is plenty of nostalgia to build upon, but I also agree and dont think Disney views this as one that "got away".Oh its a great move for them.
Its just NOT "the one that got away".....
huu nintendo is hardly "latest ip".Honestly I have no problem with it. Correct, it's not my cup of tea, but if it's popular (and it seems to be based on everyone jumping on my back about it), then more power to them. My problem is more with the hypocrisy of posters in this forum than with anything Universal or Disney are doing. It's different standards. I posted this in the Nintendo-specific thread, but we see people bashing Avatar, Frozen, or even Star Wars with arguments like "Disney should focus on original ideas instead of rushing to capitalize on the latest IP." But when Universal does Potter, Kong, Transformers, or Nintendo, it's "HOORAY FOR UNIVERSAL! Look at their awesome ability to capitalize on popular IP!"
No love at all, even when it was her 25th birthday.........no Samus of Metroid? Son, I am disappoint..
Thats a good point. Many people have already stated that this attraction will be a draw for the families who find Epcot 'boring'. Not much else in the park is changing so the families who do get sucked in will have few options to turn to.Guest Relations is going to be swamped by guests who were unable to get on the ride ("It's the only reason we came to this park!)
I find your comment regarding "evergreen" interetsing.This is exactly the problem. They weren't "raised" on MarioKart. They love new games, and have no emotional connection to these works. Instead of working to foster the relationships with them, they focused on closed proprietary systems that made it inaccessible to millions. Micheal Eisner always said content is an evergreen, and the delivery mechanism can be blown away. Nintendo had an evergreen, and essentially chopped it down for the sake of their consoles. The strategy has backfired leaving them with not only a broken hardware business but also a shattered software business.
Yeah, but sales continue to be a shadow of their former selves. 10s of millions have been exposed to Minecraft, and if you're a significant other of younger kids you know what gets talked about. It's not Nintendo.
The difference is Disney has worked to keep their brands timeless. Everyone still knows Snow White and Cinderella decades on. Nintendo (and the market Universal) is targeting kids, and they don't care about Nintendo anymore.
The more I read RealDizFan, the more I think the guy is a paid PR goon.Not sure why it wouldn't be the same, or very close...
Then now might be a good time to hire some help for the staff at Guest Relations...
Doesn't Disney also owns the permissions of all Miyasakis's films as well, right?They also have access to Laika's film library, but beyond walkarounds for film releases, they ignore them entirely.
This is one of the most boneheaded statements I have ever read on this site.
Only distribution rights and they did some co-funding on some of the post-Spirited Away stuff. And even with that, GKIDS has mostly taken that over with them distributing the new stuff that's not related to MIyazaki.Doesn't Disney also owns the permissions of all Miyasakis's films as well, right?
I think this kind of land could be dangerous.I kinda see Nintendo as the "Oswald the Rabbit" of video gaming. Theyre still relevant, but have been passed and then lapped a few times by Xbox and Playstation. There is plenty of nostalgia to build upon, but I also agree and dont think Disney views this as one that "got away".
If we were talking Grand Theft Auto Land, it might be a different story. Or I guess you can just hit the OBT for that kind of action.
...trying way too hard to fix his silly claims from past posts...When Maelstrom manages approx 60 second intervals and Frozen is shooting for 35 seconds, yeah the capacity will be different. Seriously, do some people really not have the mental capacity to infer anything? Nearly every ride's capacity is dependent on the ride vehicle's capacity x dispatch interval. It has nothing to do with the ride system. When Test Track opened, intervals were nearly twice as long, thus it had horrid capacity until they got intervals cut down significantly. If you double an interval length, capacity is halved. If you cut the interval in half instead, capacity doubles. It's why Thunder Mtn with 3 trains isn't going to have the same capacity as Thunder with 5 on line. Frozen will be no different. It's just more boats on line, an upgrade load/unload procedure and modifying the timing on the lift and switch track. It's not complicated at all. I thought everyone understood such a simple concept without needing to have it explained to them.
Thanks Stephen Hawking, for explaining the complicated equation that 5 trains on BTMR will allow more riders than 3 trains. Did you have to consult with the physicists at CERN to solve that one?When Maelstrom manages approx 60 second intervals and Frozen is shooting for 35 seconds, yeah the capacity will be different. Seriously, do some people really not have the mental capacity to infer anything? Nearly every ride's capacity is dependent on the ride vehicle's capacity x dispatch interval. It has nothing to do with the ride system. When Test Track opened, intervals were nearly twice as long, thus it had horrid capacity until they got intervals cut down significantly. If you double an interval length, capacity is halved. If you cut the interval in half instead, capacity doubles. It's why Thunder Mtn with 3 trains isn't going to have the same capacity as Thunder with 5 on line. Frozen will be no different. It's just more boats on line, an upgrade load/unload procedure and modifying the timing on the lift and switch track. It's not complicated at all. I thought everyone understood such a simple concept without needing to have it explained to them.
I kinda see Nintendo as the "Oswald the Rabbit" of video gaming. Theyre still relevant, but have been passed and then lapped a few times by Xbox and Playstation. There is plenty of nostalgia to build upon, but I also agree and dont think Disney views this as one that "got away".
If we were talking Grand Theft Auto Land, it might be a different story. Or I guess you can just hit the OBT for that kind of action.
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