A Spirited Perfect Ten

GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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wdisney9000 said:
Isnt it odd that peanut allergies were unheard of before 1950? You ever wonder why they ask, "are you allergic to penecillin?" You can thank the brilliant doctors of the 1940's for using peanut oil as excipients in penecillin. Peanut oil was cheap and available and excipients act as a sort of time release capsule. It only took about a decade for over 10% of the population to become allergic to penecillin. The excipients (peanut oil) were immediately recognized as the cause of the allergic reaction because proteins in the peanut were lost in the process of refinement but the risk of life-threatening infections outweighed concern for the allergy. Alexander Flemming, the man who created penecillin even warned about the use of prophylactic antibiotics being used, but was mostly ignored.

Studies were done in the 70's on peanut excipients and after the study was complete, whadda ya know, manufacturers were no longer required to list all ingredients of vaccines. Why people find this ok is beyond me.

Peanut oil became the go-to excipient for nearly all vaccines by the 80's despite warnings by many doctors and there was a continued rise in peanut allergies in children. By the 90's mandatory vaccines had doubled for infants and there was an explosion in peanut allergies. It continues to rise at an alarming rate but its ignored that American children are the most allergic kids in the world. People will cite the "hygiene hypothesis" which basically states that the US is "more clean" than other countries and that children who grow up in "less clean" environments are able to fight off allergies due to early-life exposure. IMO, thats ridiculous.

Im not in any way saying people shouldnt get vaccinated. Its your choice. Im just highlighting a unique history of where peanut allergies came from.
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Every now and then I actually learn something new here. This makes a lot of sense.

Any theory on why half the population has turned gluten intolerant in the last few years?
 
Mike S

Mike S

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wdisney9000 said:
Isnt it odd that peanut allergies were unheard of before 1950? You ever wonder why they ask, "are you allergic to penecillin?" You can thank the brilliant doctors of the 1940's for using peanut oil as excipients in penecillin. Peanut oil was cheap and available and excipients act as a sort of time release capsule. It only took about a decade for over 10% of the population to become allergic to penecillin. The excipients (peanut oil) were immediately recognized as the cause of the allergic reaction because proteins in the peanut were lost in the process of refinement but the risk of life-threatening infections outweighed concern for the allergy. Alexander Flemming, the man who created penecillin even warned about the use of prophylactic antibiotics being used, but was mostly ignored.

Studies were done in the 70's on peanut excipients and after the study was complete, whadda ya know, manufacturers were no longer required to list all ingredients of vaccines. Why people find this ok is beyond me.

Peanut oil became the go-to excipient for nearly all vaccines by the 80's despite warnings by many doctors and there was a continued rise in peanut allergies in children. By the 90's mandatory vaccines had doubled for infants and there was an explosion in peanut allergies. It continues to rise at an alarming rate but its ignored that American children are the most allergic kids in the world. People will cite the "hygiene hypothesis" which basically states that the US is "more clean" than other countries and that children who grow up in "less clean" environments are able to fight off allergies due to early-life exposure. IMO, thats ridiculous.

Im not in any way saying people shouldnt get vaccinated. Its your choice. Im just highlighting a unique history of where peanut allergies came from.
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seahawk7

seahawk7

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WDW1974 said:
Spirited Bedtime Musing (hope the fanboi minions have the 600-threadcount sheets on the royal slumber chamber's bedding):

One of the dumbest and most absurd things I have heard that is bound to **** off folks who love being offended by me and my views:

http://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2015/...peanut-butter-in-disneyland-and-disney-world/

Yes, that's right. One of the most basic staples of an ice cream sundae (and my favorite Gold Rush at Ghirardelli's) the peauut is no longer being used at Disney locations in O-Town and Anaheim.

I wonder when the company is going to grow a pair and stop catering to every special needs group out there. No peanuts on ice cream?!?! What do these idiot parents do when at a grocery store? Or when they send their children to friend's home? Or on a trip?

And what about chocolate?!?! Many people are allergic. That was Disney's excuse over a decade ago when they stopped giving free chocolates when they brought a check at full serve restaurants at WDW. To be on the safe side they should just close the shops down. And the candy shops as well ... they have peanuts, chocolates and all sorts of poisons on the shelves. Can't ever be too protective when thinking about a tiny minority of children (and adults). We should all have to change our lives to cater to them! If the allergy is truly that great, then common sense dictates that they are carrying an EpiPen with them everywhere they go.

I don't mean to make light about this, but when I was a child I never knew a sole Spirit who had a peanut allergy. I also never knew a sole Spirit who had Asperger's but I am not even going there.

WIth all due respect to my Star Trek loving friends, but when did the needs of the few (or the one) become greater than the needs (or peanut love) of the many? And when does the insanity end?

All of these 'pets' that have been appearing at WDW over the last decade that are just that and disguised as 'service animals' ... even Channing Tatum has a fake one and thinks it's charming. A local bar had to deal with a suit recently by some moron who wanted to take his 'comfort dog' to his local watering hole and would place the dog on a bar stool and even hold him over the serving area (a health code violation).

I'm all for special needs people getting some help. I'm all for fairness. But when we start catering to everyone who claims to be special and has issues, then the reality becomes no one is special and no one needs help and protections.

But thanks, crazy, overprotective Moms and ridiculous execs who worry about lawsuits when they pay people off left and right, I won't be going back to Ghirardelli. I'll just head to Friendly's and get a better, bigger sundae for half the price (or less) and I'll ask for extra nuts (my fanboi minions should most definitely approve!) The stupidity never ends. Anyone recall the mother who demanded Disney remove the peanut impressions in the Storybook Circus paving because her brat was allergic (apparently, to concrete peanut impressions)?

Yes, I'm an insensitive b@stard. I'm also 100% right about this.
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. I'm vegetarian and I try to eat mostly vegan so I'm very careful around meat and dairy but my diet should not dictate the rules for everyone else. If a person is allergic to nuts then stay away from places that serve nuts. No one has to eat ice cream.
 
gmajew

gmajew

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Goofyernmost said:
Dammit Spirit every once in awhile you do get lucid and I have to agree with you. You are indeed an insensitive b@stard. You are also 100% right about THIS. The tail is absolutely wagging the dog on this and many other "special needs" topics that you care to come up with. It is good to help others when we can, but, not at the expense of everyone else. They are called disabilities for a reason. At this point if one person out of ten has a problem, the turnaround is that now one person has the control and nine have become disabled.
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My one son is allergic to peanuts so some people get their panties in a bunch over having them around them. People need to grow a set and realize no matter what people are all allergic to something.

Peanut butter is my favorite treat and my son knows it and knows to check packaging etc to make sure he does not eat something he should not. He is 7. So if he can handle the risk I think anyone can.
and it allows me my peanut butter and bananas for desert. Lol.
 
wdisney9000

wdisney9000

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flynnibus said:
Except.. .is there any actual cited and accepted science in the stuff you copied? If only the anti-vax people would cite things as much as they like to copy basically verbatim between each other.
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Ya, but lets ignore the revolving door policy in Washington and the HUGE influence BIG Pharma has in govt. Or we can ignore conflict of interest issues like the former Director of the CDC becoming the president of Mercks vaccine division and how Merck makes around 90% of the CDC recommended vaccines for adults and children. There are many more former heads of FDA and CDC that work for Phama now as well.

Any research that sheds any light on negative aspects of vaccines will never see the light of the day. CBS attempted to test results of swine flu cases and was blocked. Why? Pharmaceutical companies are one of the highest profiting businesses in manufacturing. The ties between govt and pharma go all the back to WW1. The media isnt going to turn down the big dollars on advertising they spend. What a shocker that we see ONLY positive results of very brief trials and any negative results never get mentioned. Its no different than the Disney parks blog. They control the message.

I think vaccines are needed. Let people see the ingredients in them. Make quality vaccines, not the ones they push upon us. They are far more concerned with profit rather than healing people. Listen to the side affects in the commercials when you see a man sailing on a boat with a smile on his face because he takes Cialis now. The affects are more terrifying than the ailment you seek to treat. But its ok, he is on sail boat so that an@l leakage shouldnt be too bad when he cozies up with his wife.
 
Goofywilliam

Goofywilliam

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ford91exploder said:
Unless you want to run a business or pursue a hobby like restoring antiques, Then California is pure hell, Weather is great, place is beautiful but Sacramento went from the ridculous to the sublime to the completely bats--t insane years ago now more people (read taxpayers) are leaving than coming to CA.

The water wars are drying out the Central Valley (breadbasket of much of America) so they can save a non-native invasive species, Yes CA is in a drought situation but they made it worse with insane policies, I'm in silicon valley (Santa Clara County) frequently and everyone has to have a poison green lawn (it's the LAW) yet the place is basically a desert. Why is water being WASTED on LAWNS in a semi-arid climate????. Every place has an irrigation system because it's ILLEGAL to let your lawn go brown, The place is INSANE.

On the east coast at least where I live when it gets dry lawns go brown it's the cycle of nature, But we don't waste water that could go to agriculture on futile attempts to maintain non-natural areas.

Stuff like this is why FL and CA compete for the crown of 'Craziest State in America'.
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Someone needs to introduce these people to the beauty of ornamental grasses. Its a new design trend I've been noticing lately. Planting the right mix of grasses in your yard can allow year round beauty with zero irrigation. You dont even have to cut it!
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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So..... Tonight is the fight of the century between a known woman beater and a glaring homophobe.

I really gotta ask... and I'm not sure if it popped up on @WDW1974's radar but why on earth is TWDC (through ESPN) promoting a six-time woman beater? Why are they having Steven A. Smith (Mr. Victim Blamer himself) do fluff pieces on his alleged "Redemption?" Why is Disney allowing, supporting and promoting this?

Even more egregious? Anyone who had the audacity to question Floyd Mayweather, Jr.,'s domestic violence arrests had their credentials yanked today. Female reporters like Rachel Nichols (A CNN & Turner Sports corespondent) Michelle Beadle (of ESPN), Hamilton Kim, Steve Kim and Martin Rogers (all boxing writers)

Anyone care to ask 'lil Bobby Iger why Disney is supporting such an piece of detritus?
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

Premium Member
wdisney9000 said:
Ya, but lets ignore the revolving door policy in Washington and the HUGE influence BIG Pharma has in govt. Or we can ignore conflict of interest issues like the former Director of the CDC becoming the president of Mercks vaccine division and how Merck makes around 90% of the CDC recommended vaccines for adults and children. There are many more former heads of FDA and CDC that work for Phama now as well.

Any research that sheds any light on negative aspects of vaccines will never see the light of the day. CBS attempted to test results of swine flu cases and was blocked. Why? Pharmaceutical companies are one of the highest profiting businesses in manufacturing. The ties between govt and pharma go all the back to WW1. The media isnt going to turn down the big dollars on advertising they spend. What a shocker that we see ONLY positive results of very brief trials and any negative results never get mentioned. Its no different than the Disney parks blog. They control the message.

I think vaccines are needed. Let people see the ingredients in them. Make quality vaccines, not the ones they push upon us. They are far more concerned with profit rather than healing people. Listen to the side affects in the commercials when you see a man sailing on a boat with a smile on his face because he takes Cialis now. The affects are more terrifying than the ailment you seek to treat. But its ok, he is on sail boat so that an@l leakage shouldnt be too bad when he cozies up with his wife.
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So the answer is no
 
Q

Quinnmac000

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PhotoDave219 said:
So..... Tonight is the fight of the century between a known woman beater and a glaring homophobe.

I really gotta ask... and I'm not sure if it popped up on @WDW1974's radar but why on earth is TWDC (through ESPN) promoting a six-time woman beater? Why are they having Steven A. Smith (Mr. Victim Blamer himself) do fluff pieces on his alleged "Redemption?" Why is Disney allowing, supporting and promoting this?

Even more egregious? Anyone who had the audacity to question Floyd Mayweather, Jr.,'s domestic violence arrests had their credentials yanked today. Female reporters like Rachel Nichols (A CNN & Turner Sports corespondent) Michelle Beadle (of ESPN), Hamilton Kim, Steve Kim and Martin Rogers (all boxing writers)

Anyone care to ask 'lil Bobby Iger why Disney is supporting such an piece of detritus?
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He is making money and ESPN money when his face is on their channel and the fact that this is a $300 million dollar match.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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Quinnmac000 said:
He is making money and ESPN money when his face is on their channel and the fact that this is a $300 million dollar match.
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300 million… But comes out to 50 million per woman beaten up.

Exactly how much money does it take to ease the conscience of of the business who supports a person who habitually commits domestic violence? How much money to look past that rabbit punch to the back of the head or your child having to hand write out a police report to Las Vegas PD?
 

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