A Spirited Perfect Ten

IAmFloridaBorn

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I can eat at an Applebee's in a town of 40,000 in Arkansas. If I'm in Orlando, I'm searching for stuff not found at an exit in Conway.

As for Sea Life hurting Seaworld it only means SW will have to up its game when it comes to attractions. That's one reason for the Blue Ocean project. It will have to do stuff that can't be done at a place like SeaLife. Zoos are constantly upping their game when it comes to animal displays large and small, SeaWorld is no different.
I use to think like that.
"If I have something in my city, why visit it in another city"
Well I got out of that. Realizing not only am I in someone else's backyard, but it is certainly up to me to find the experiences, the experiences dont find me. Be it something your are familiar with or not. Idk lol it works for me. I never go with expectations above what I know to expect, otherwise I will be disappointed with what is presented to me.
 

IAmFloridaBorn

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I think the complex as a whole, and its neighbors, have the potential to do some real damage around town. $50 for a ticket to all four attractions (almost half off that with AAA), and free parking. Going to hit Sea World hard. I think Uni and even AK might feel a bite as well (I single out SW and AK just because of SeaLife--I think one animal-centric attraction in a week is enough for most dads).

Meanwhile, at night, I-Drive is turning into the second coming of Church St. Station, arguably even PI. It's going to demolish CityWalk, and steal away a lot of the customers Disney Springs seems designed for.


BTW, Houlihans as a chain was horribly run, at least in central Florida. Their 192 outlet is a case study in "***." And Applebees is probably a little too pedestrian for the crowd coming to I-Drive these days. Not as many family tourists, at least at night.
Not sure what church street was like as I am too young, but what's coming to I drive North, will forever make it as close to church street glory days!

I have to not agree with you though . (Not disagreeing just not in agreement). I don't think Sea World, or Uni or any of Disneys park will take a hit from it. Merlin not only didn't build legoland in Orlando, they refused to even look for land in Orlando. Why? Because the "Theme Park" market is as competitive as it is and Orlando is far ahead known for it's "Theme Parks" (Not to be confused Amusment Parks). What the Complex is is what FunSpot is. Alternative attractions. Not to compete with Universal or Sea World or Disney, but only to compliment and take advantage of the family of four on their 5th day all theme parked out. Targeting the crowd in the middle of the crowd is brilliant and Merlin got it right.

Orlando doesn't have one aquarium. Nearest one is Florida Aquarium in Tampa.
Orlando doesn't have a zoo either. Nearest one is in Sanford, followed by Brevard Zoo in Melbourne then Lowry Park Zoo in Tampa.

The SeaQuairum is great for it's location and it's offering and amenities being in a complex rather than a stand alone commercial development.

Universal isn't into the Animal BS so they're good, if anything it makes Sea World have to +1 and Ante up their game!
 

PhotoDave219

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I can eat at an Applebee's in a town of 40,000 in Arkansas. If I'm in Orlando, I'm searching for stuff not found at an exit in Conway.

As for Sea Life hurting Seaworld it only means SW will have to up its game when it comes to attractions. That's one reason for the Blue Ocean project. It will have to do stuff that can't be done at a place like SeaLife. Zoos are constantly upping their game when it comes to animal displays large and small, SeaWorld is no different.

May I suggest Sand Lake Drive then. Restaurant Row.
 

WDW1974

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Spirited Thursday Musings:

So, am I correct in believing that Nik Wallenda had a disappointing turnout for his walk on the O-Town Eye? I was told there was some chatter on this morning's Today Show. More bloggers likely getting ready for their free food at The Boathouse today and couldn't be bothered.

I absolutely love James Spader and the Blacklist.

OK, lunch today was Rocco's Tacos. The Lifestylers in O-Town may love the stuff, especially when it's free. But I found the portions (at the Fort Lauderdale location) to be small and pricey. And the first question out of the server's mouth shouldn't be ''are you guys having the ($12) guac?'' It's definitely a decent, but not special, place that you go to be seen and tell people you've dined there (some great yelp reviews basically saying the same thing in many more words.) The only way I'd tell O-Town visitors to go there ... well, I wouldn't. Because the amazing Antojitos at City Walk is much better and they don't charge you for chips and salsa (very tacky at a Tex-Mex place). It isn't a don't miss by any stretch in O-Town. In Fort Lauderdale or Boca, it might be worth a visit as we don't have great Mexican food by any stretch. It makes me long for childhood and Chi-Chi's.

Stopped by the Hard Rock Casino in the beautiful 'other Hollywood' while waiting to pick up the parents at the ER (everyone is OK, just a scary situation that required a three-hour visit!) and interesting to see the Seminoles trying to upscale it more akin to Vegas resorts. Love the vibe of the new bar in the lobby and the new Japanese place (Kuro) looks wonderful and overlooks the pool.

Most interesting thing I found at the HR? Oh, that Disney is still lying about its gambling business. Recently installed (I asked) Iron Man slots. Look, the company bought Marvel in 2009. It's 2015. Slot contracts only run for so long. And when new machines are being put out ... well, like I said, Disney lies.

Got confirmation from a second sources that there absolutely will NOT be a Be Our Guest restaurant added to TDL. The big new full serve locale is replacing the Tomorrowland Terrace, which features the worst food at TDL and still didn't stop @WDWFigment from dining there. And I'm trying to get more details on the Small World new facility.

I also was told that Disney purchasing the Carousel Inn in Anaheim 'may' not be the first facility they have bought on Harbor Blvd. and will likely not be the last (no, this land isn't for a third theme park).

On that subject, I'd expect to see a second gate in HK and a third in Tokyo before anything happens, if it happens, in Anaheim.

So, between my overpriced ($10.50 for two small tacos, a scoop of rice and some greens) lunch, my quickee casino visit and a stop at the hospital, what did I miss at the whorefest in O-Town? Who's off the list? Who's on it? How many people who live in Clermont, Davenport, Four Corners are being given free hotel rooms? Is the note I got about them going with a Frozen theme for summer AGAIN true? What did I miss? How many pounds of beef did Mongello eat at the Boathouse while swearing he's never gotten a free thing from Disney in his life?

BTW, anyone who wants to be a Lifestyler and included as BRAND advocate contact Jennifer.J.Fickley@Disney.com. I can also provide you with work contact numbers for her if you too want to sell yourself for a little free Disney crap (not passing judgment ... I steal Coke all the time, remember?)

Has anything NEW been announced for the summer? Even a Disney Vacation Club kiosk? How about special cupcakes (the dessert choice of 8-year-olds everywhere!)? Any new upcharge events added? Or just apps that allow you to pre-order food?

I know so many of you don't give a d@mn about China. I'm sure China feels the same way about you. But I found this week's 1A story in the New York Times on Dalian Wanda head Wang Jianlin to be fascinating. To be fair, other than one old quote, it doesn't have much (on the surface) to do with The Walt Disney Company.

But it read to me like a coordinated hit piece. Not on Disney's behalf, but much more likely the US Chamber of Commerce's behalf or simply 'global business interests.' It tried to bring Wang into the whole giant corruption situation as he is the wealthiest man in the country ($35 billion). The NYT take, which they never backed up with actual evidence, was that with the anti-graft campaign being a huge deal that China's wealthiest man and the politicians he was/is involved with just have to be dirty. With no evidence beyond connections.

That was never stated, but that was the implied conclusion. The Times could never get away with writing something like that about a Bill Gates or a Steve Jobs or even a Bob Iger. All implication.

Now, I'm sure, at the very least, that some of it's true. But that doesn't change the fact the story is very weak and should never have been placed. BTW, the author had to leave Bloomberg because they wouldn't run the story.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/29/w...tion-of-business-and-power-in-china.html?_r=0
 
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WDW1974

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If you're up for pizza, most definitely. Or if it's happy hour time, Roy's Hawaiian or McCormick & Schmick's at GardenWalk is better for appetizers and drinks. Or Napa Rose Lounge if you want to be closer to the action.

Those are all good choices. I will be in touch shortly after I book airfare etc.
 

WDW1974

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We're still waiting for the Warner Brothers Theme Park to open in the UK we were promised decades ago.

In the UK things like this have the habit of being done.... on the cheap. We'll see.

Yep. Read through all 16 pages of that pdf and all I could think was that this thing is akin to being slightly beyond blue sky but with no actual agreements in place to build.

BTW, headed to DLP anytime soon?
 

WDW1974

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does the contemporary ever feels like "Deluxe" nowadays?
I keep reading about these nightmare stories of rooms that are falling apart with paint peeling.
I would expect to see that in a motel not far from an airport.
but in a "deluxe" next to a top tier theme park?

WDW deluxe rooms are largely 'deluxe' in name only or due to theming and proximity to the Disney parks. I posted here about the newly renovated rooms at BC that I 'toured' when I was up recently and they look great, but the workmanship is so shoddy. A Motel 6 redo would have more caring and attention to detail than this.

And I know BW and CBR have recently had rooms upgraded with work now being done on BC and BCV (as well as Dolphin, which isn't a Disney resort but ...)

I haven't stayed at Contemporary in about a decade (BLT didn't exist and Contemp North still existed) and I haven't seen even one room there in years, so I have no clue. But the Concourse has been so Walmarted with Chef Mickey's so out of place and Contemo Cafe (which I enjoy the food at) and the Fantasia gift shop all woefully out of place as well that it sure doesn't feel like the classy place it once was.
 

Skippy

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So, between my overpriced ($10.50 for two small tacos, a scoop of rice and some greens) lunch...
Welcome to 2015 at a non-McDonalds-like global chain. That sounds normal to me (unfortunately many would say). Getting rice and greens with it probably is actually cheaper than I would pay across the road for all of that.
 

ThemeParkTraveller

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Got confirmation from a second sources that there absolutely will NOT be a Be Our Guest restaurant added to TDL. The big new full serve locale is replacing the Tomorrowland Terrace, which features the worst food at TDL and still didn't stop @WDWFigment from dining there. And I'm trying to get more details on the Small World new facility.

Interesting. Lee MacDonald posted the same thing just yesterday. Apparently, the Beauty and the Beast plans are still up in the air. The prospect of some kind of dark ride seem quite high now given no restaurant is taking up that space.
 

WDW1974

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Same logic applies to FastPass and + version of it now...

"So who cares if a Stand by line goes up 42% in five years, so long as you're getting 20% off that line by getting a FastPass+ for the attraction in a hour."

The genie is way, way too far out of the bottle now to ever be put back.

Conditioning has taught us FastPass is fast, no matter how slow it makes everything.

Oh, I know.

WDW is going to be all about planning and tech and upcharging and stratifying Guests (Folks were so busy with their mock indignation over the way they perceived me to be treating the Fast Company writer that no one barely blinked when I said Disney is thinking seriously about giving its resort Guests a fourth FP in advance, supposedly some resort folks who don't get Park Ops wanted TWO additional MK FP's for resort Guests).

They've ruined WDW over the last 10-15 years greatly. I can still enjoy it in piecemeal right now, but I worry that the day is coming when I won't find anything worthy ... and the rubes will be saying 'Great, stay away! That will make lines shorter for the rest of us! Go to UNI where you love to be -- it sucks, ya know?!?!'
 

WDW1974

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Don't forget food and beverage. I just mentioned this in the Marvel thread, but the cost of a guest going to Universal isn't just one day of park admission. It's substantially more likely that the guest who goes to Potter (and thus has a rental car) also stays at the Holiday Inn (lost room nights), shops at the outlets (lost merch sales), and eats at Applebee's (lost F&B).

Disney doesn't want Guests to ever go off-property. They look at it like Pandora's box (no blue alien-sex-kittens here or cheap jewelry either). Once that person realizes that there are other options, many better for visiting, for dining, for drinking, for shopping, most won't run crying back to the perceived safety of 'the Disney bubble.'
 

WDW1974

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Interesting. Lee MacDonald posted the same thing just yesterday. Apparently, the Beauty and the Beast plans are still up in the air. The prospect of some kind of dark ride seem quite high now given no restaurant is taking up that space.

Wouldn't a musical ride through the Beast's castle be swell? :D

And they do have those old Tony Baxter DLP show plans too! :)

Just sayin ...
 

WDWFigment

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Interesting. Lee MacDonald posted the same thing just yesterday. Apparently, the Beauty and the Beast plans are still up in the air. The prospect of some kind of dark ride seem quite high now given no restaurant is taking up that space.

Disney doesn't want Guests to ever go off-property. They look at it like Pandora's box (no blue alien-sex-kittens here or cheap jewelry either). Once that person realizes that there are other options, many better for visiting, for dining, for drinking, for shopping, most won't run crying back to the perceived safety of 'the Disney bubble.'

Tomorrowland Terrace isn't just the worst restaurant at Tokyo Disneyland, it might be the worst Disney restaurant, period. I got suckered in by those cute Mickey shaped burgers and immediately regretted the decision. I won't miss it at all.

EDIT: I realize I quoted irrelevant posts, but I can't find where I was actually tagged...
 

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