Animaniac93-98
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The article said they won't and that current management will stay.
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The article said they won't and that current management will stay.
lazyboy97o
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According to Disney's statements, no.
Thanks for the on the ground update.
I never gave this (or the sister park planned for Spain) much chance of happening. I do see a market for this type of product in the UK, all one has to do is go to O-Town or Paris to see how much the British care for theme parks.
But these projects just have a way of not happening. And no money is coming from Paramount/Viacom, so I don't sense a strong push (any push?) on their part to see it come to fruition.
Rteetz
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Well disney had to buy this for a reason it's just what is that reason.
lazyboy97o
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Land around Disneyland is a premium commodity.
Animaniac93-98
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That reason could simply be they want to enjoy the benefits of owning a successful hotel without the cost of new construction.
So, why has nothing come out of the WDW spring social media whorefest? Anyone tweeting anything?
And why are both Disney and UNI fanbois so against the O-Town Eye? I happen to like the thing and it does nothing but improve a very bland and boring part of town that has gained lots of new places in the last 18-24 months.
I do worry about cannibalization to some degree. Lots of places on I-Drive are closed. Everything from Applebee's and Houlihan's outlets to much of what you don't see from I-Drive of Pointe Orlando. Indeed, the latter has a Dan Marino's Town Tavern location that appears to have closed in about 2007 and not been touched since.
And why are both Disney and UNI fanbois so against the O-Town Eye? I happen to like the thing and it does nothing but improve a very bland and boring part of town that has gained lots of new places in the last 18-24 months.
I do worry about cannibalization to some degree. Lots of places on I-Drive are closed. Everything from Applebee's and Houlihan's outlets to much of what you don't see from I-Drive of Pointe Orlando. Indeed, the latter has a Dan Marino's Town Tavern location that appears to have closed in about 2007 and not been touched since.
DVC.
Well, for years -- decades really, you almost had to at WDW. Discounting was very rare in the 70s and 80s as demand largely outpaced supply. Sure, Floridians could score rooms at the Contemporary, Poly and Golf Resorts for $99 if we wanted to visit in September (unless you were a frequent park visitor in those days, you truly have no idea how dead the parks were ... MK closed nightly ay 6, 7 on weekends and EPCOT Center closed at 8 nightly ... oh, and no one complained!)
So, rack rate became the standard if you were staying at a WDW resort largely until Port Orleans and Dixie Landings and the All Star Sports and Music resorts came online. Even then, only the savvy folks would ask about AP, FLA/GA resident, AAA rates.
I'd venture to say the vast majority of visitors to WDW as recently as the late 90s thought you took whatever rate they quoted you when you called CRO (yes, you couldn't make a reservation on an iPhone and the world was a better place for it!) ...it was only in the late 90s when supply began to outpace demand that discounting became quite widespread, but again, you had to know about them.
Since 9/11 WDW has been in a constant cycle of discounting, with generic 'anyone who asks about this offer saves if we have availability for their dates', yet I'm still quite sure that more people pay rack rate at WDW nightly by far than those who have discounted deals. But WDW and the 'net have conditioned many a guest to expect discounts, so Disney just keeps raising prices and then discounts. I don't get it, but we all saw what happened when J.C Penny went away from sales in favor of lower prices all the time ... once people expect a discount, the expect it. So who cares if a room rate goes up 42% in five years, so long as you're getting 20% off that rate?
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the.dreamfinder
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Interesting news out of Anaheim this evening.
http://ocregister.com/articles/disney-659941-hotel-inn.html
http://ocregister.com/articles/disney-659941-hotel-inn.html
The opening rates at Sports and Music from 1994-95 was $59 a night (that was before any discounts ... I believe I once paid something like $26 on a CM rate). Oh, and when CBR debuted in 1988, rack rate began at $64 per night. And when it opened, it wasn't classified as a moderate resort either. I don't recall exactly how it was referred to, but it was more upscale (rooms had mini-bars, island with live parrots living on it, all food was fresh -- from pizza to burgers to sandwiches and made from scratch at food court). But it was pricey at times due to supply vs. demand. I recall spending $99 plus tax to stay there in summer of 1990. That also was when summer was a peak season unlike today.
GiveMeTheMusic
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Yes, but how much were the Pirate/Nemo rooms??!!
For laughs I priced out a non-discounted AKL week-long stay this fall. Oh and I laughed.
For once (and likely only once) I agree. I know some execs whom 'disdain' would be appropriate ... but I also know others who still (somehow) care about Guests and the Disney Legacy ...so if you meet in the middle and average it out, well, apathetic probably is the best word to describe them largely.
Now, whether you view apathetic management at a place like WDW as a good thing is another discussion.
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Not at WDW. Plenty of people pay rack rate. I've even seen nightly rate charts in the past where you'd see some huge discounts, but 77% of people were paying rack.
Yes. Some of us lived through those days and recall things quite well. We also probably have proof buried in a box somewhere in a closet.
Not across the board. But I recall hearing a few years ago that this was the case for MK and had been the case at EPCOT in some years.
What people fail to realize is the fact far more WDW Guests are staying off-site, then are staying on. Even today with 27,000-plus hotel rooms and timeshares, many people don't live on WDW property and have APs or 7-day hoppers etc.
Yeah, Michael and Frank noticed how fair (underpriced) WDW admission was in the 80s too.
Then, we have Christmas week and Easter week when standard rooms at some resorts can approach $1,000 a night. And, yes, I think anyone who pays that has way too much money on his/her hands.
Nope. But the best concert of my life was Paul McCartney at said Citrus Bowl in 1993 ... floor seats, maybe a dozen rows back of the stage.
They did. I don't quite get the strategy in play here. That piece of land is only worth something if they can buy other parcels along Harbor. And, if you're Disney, the last thing you'd want to do is let the world know you're looking to acquire land there.
Of course, this is the company that can't develop or sell off Walt's 'Blessing of Size' Florida property fast enough, so I don't have any faith that they actually know what they are doing.