Disneyhead'71
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Oh, I think I remember that. It's, what, something like 147 interconnected superhero movies peppered strategically over the next 3 years. Or something like that. Right?
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A Spirited Perfect Ten
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CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
I'm trying too hard because I'm trying to force this nugget of information called "nuance" into your brain. You're absolutely failing to see the difference between owned content and branded content.
Marvel at D23 means Marvel is Disney-branded? Okay, please explain to the reader the difference between that statement and this one: "Marvel attractions exist at Universal theme parks. Therefore, Marvel is obviously being branded as a Comcast product."
You don't see how absurd that sounds? Marvel is Marvel. That's its BRAND. Presence at or in events, places, or publications owned by various entities does not somehow negate that fact and make Marvel instead branded as whatever umbrella entity is organizing said event, place, or publication.
spectromagic04
Well-Known Member
This has probably been talked about, but was wondering other than the Toy Story Playland what else is supposed to go in Pixar Place? I know Carsland and Monsters was rumored last summer, but I think that might have fallen through.
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
There are NO, I repeat NO, non Disney product present at D23. D23 is literally the Disney Showcase of Products. Everything, EVERYTHING!!!!!!! at D23 is Disney.
Tony Perkis
Well-Known Member
By all means, if Disney won't add an attraction aimed at 14+ year old people, double down on stroller city.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
I never doubted your understanding of what D23 is. I questiom your understanding of what "brand" means. Pixar is at D23. Separate brand. Star Wars is at D23. Separate brand.
ETA: Muppets
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
I wasn't actually arguing with anyone about phase 3.Nothing ruins an argument like resorting to hyperbole.
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Fair enough, I just have a personal vendetta against hyperbole.
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
I understand what you are saying. I disagree with you. Disney is stamping their name on these products big as day.
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
Hyperbole works in arguments and is also sometimes used as humor.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
It also has a "boy who cried wolf" effect. As in, this guy is being so ridiculous and I'm not going to sit here and try to decipher which posts should be taken seriously.
Like when you go after me in another thread for loving every single thing Disney does five minutes after I finish stating my belief that Star Wars in Tomorrowland is an awful idea. It's intellectually dishonest.
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
I guess it depends on the definition of 'works'. I find it is one step below attacking someone's character (not accusing you personally of doing that), or resorting to Godwin's Law - marking the losing end of the internet-age argument.
Spirited Sunday Musings:
With all due apologies to my frozen friends up north, but having temps in the upper 90s (over 100 in some areas) along with humidity in APRIL is just freaking sick. I'll take the weather where that hillbilly @Lee lives right now.
I might be a bit more crotchety than normal as I can't help but feel the boat (in this case the Disney Wonder) left without me today. Priorities. It's all about priorities.
I haven't talked with anyone intimately involved in the Pirates refurb at MK, but the cutting of a month from the schedule just can't be good. The attraction is, and has been, a disaster. It needs to likely be shuttered for up to a year and brought up to proper show quality.
BTW, with Disney training cut to the bare minimum over the past 15 years, it's not surprising that many CMs of attractions like Pirates aren't even aware that certain effects exist or that certain things are or are not supposed to be. Again, that's how you take a world class destination and Walmart it.
Didn't have this issues at EPCOT or Disney-MGM or DAK, but MK's bathrooms were almost to a one, dirty to filthy to unacceptable. So long are the days when Daddy Spirit would tell Grampa Spirt that that bathrooms were clean enough to eat in.
I see my old pal @EPCOT Explorer somehow has reached 14,000 Twit followers after being the top poster here (and still is over four years after leaving the site) and then being the top poster on another defunct site. I don't know what it says about him or the Twitverse really. But if I were him, I'd make some advances to Dr. Blondie (no, not that kind, she's really not all that!) in terms of getting free stuff from Disney. He's got more followers than many bigtime Lifestylers and I don't think he pulled a Tom Amity and went out and bought a bunch (what many folks do to pump up numbers). Hey, EE, it's jennifer.j.fickley@disney.com. I could also supply her phones numbers.
Fanbois love to bemoan the loss of the fountain in the Poly lobby, but do any of them recall the macaws that used to be in the lobby? You know, REAL tiki birds!
I don't care about Age of Ultron and have zero interest in Antman. But I am very much looking forward to Tomorrowland and Inside Out.
I hear folks (here and elsewhere) talking about how show quality and upkeep are getting better at WDW and I'm just not at all sure they can even distinguish what is wrong at this point. I guess I should start charging for quality control walks and showing them everything they seem to be missing (and, no, these are not things you have to look for ... they are right there in front of you!)
If I haven't been clear, then let me be here: despite all the great stuff UNI has been putting into its parks, I find Tom Williams to be as bad or worse as Tom Staggs at running parks and getting them. Williams is a dinosaur who has basically been left alone with all the management changes at the company because The Boy Who Lived turned the resort around in a big way in a hurry. Talk to anyone in UNI Creative and they'll tell you how clueless the guy really is.
With all due apologies to my frozen friends up north, but having temps in the upper 90s (over 100 in some areas) along with humidity in APRIL is just freaking sick. I'll take the weather where that hillbilly @Lee lives right now.
I might be a bit more crotchety than normal as I can't help but feel the boat (in this case the Disney Wonder) left without me today. Priorities. It's all about priorities.
I haven't talked with anyone intimately involved in the Pirates refurb at MK, but the cutting of a month from the schedule just can't be good. The attraction is, and has been, a disaster. It needs to likely be shuttered for up to a year and brought up to proper show quality.
BTW, with Disney training cut to the bare minimum over the past 15 years, it's not surprising that many CMs of attractions like Pirates aren't even aware that certain effects exist or that certain things are or are not supposed to be. Again, that's how you take a world class destination and Walmart it.
Didn't have this issues at EPCOT or Disney-MGM or DAK, but MK's bathrooms were almost to a one, dirty to filthy to unacceptable. So long are the days when Daddy Spirit would tell Grampa Spirt that that bathrooms were clean enough to eat in.
I see my old pal @EPCOT Explorer somehow has reached 14,000 Twit followers after being the top poster here (and still is over four years after leaving the site) and then being the top poster on another defunct site. I don't know what it says about him or the Twitverse really. But if I were him, I'd make some advances to Dr. Blondie (no, not that kind, she's really not all that!) in terms of getting free stuff from Disney. He's got more followers than many bigtime Lifestylers and I don't think he pulled a Tom Amity and went out and bought a bunch (what many folks do to pump up numbers). Hey, EE, it's jennifer.j.fickley@disney.com. I could also supply her phones numbers.
Fanbois love to bemoan the loss of the fountain in the Poly lobby, but do any of them recall the macaws that used to be in the lobby? You know, REAL tiki birds!
I don't care about Age of Ultron and have zero interest in Antman. But I am very much looking forward to Tomorrowland and Inside Out.
I hear folks (here and elsewhere) talking about how show quality and upkeep are getting better at WDW and I'm just not at all sure they can even distinguish what is wrong at this point. I guess I should start charging for quality control walks and showing them everything they seem to be missing (and, no, these are not things you have to look for ... they are right there in front of you!)
If I haven't been clear, then let me be here: despite all the great stuff UNI has been putting into its parks, I find Tom Williams to be as bad or worse as Tom Staggs at running parks and getting them. Williams is a dinosaur who has basically been left alone with all the management changes at the company because The Boy Who Lived turned the resort around in a big way in a hurry. Talk to anyone in UNI Creative and they'll tell you how clueless the guy really is.
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
But Star Wars isn't going into Tomorrowland, is it? I could be wrong. I thought it was going into DHS@WDW and a complete removal of Toontown for it in Disneyland. I thought you were using a hypothetical to show what you would have a problem with.
spacemt354
Chili's
Star Wars is already in Tomorrowland at Disneyland. That may have been what he was referring to.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
I thought Tomorrowland was the plan for Disneyland. Either way, I don't like it. Its own land would be "less bad" but it still doesn't work.
spacemt354
Chili's
https://disneyland.disney.go.com/attractions/disneyland/star-tours/
I thought you were referring to this.
Star Wars land is supposedly going in the back of the park to replace Toontown.
Yes, it would.
And the Shanghai film will make its debut at EPCOT sometime before 2018 (complete with unique ending/flyover WDW).
But, generally, I agree with you. Besides, WDI has crowed for years about how movie/simulator attractions can and will be changed out frequently for new experiences. How many times did Body Wars change? How about how many years did it take to update Star Tours? What about the new holiday versions of TSMM we were told about?
Anything to spin the project ...
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
That too. I'll admit that I'm wildly uninformed about Disneyland in general. I knew they had a Star Tours but I guess I assumed it was at DCA.