A Spirited Perfect Ten

[Disneyhead'71]

That's if you think you're "trading" something for your giant pile of cash. Tonally, I think they're both great fits for Disney.

I don't think it's a bad fit, but for the last 40 years George Lucas did brand building for a Star Wars that was NOT Disney.

If Disney buys McDonald's, leaves it branded as McDonald's with a "Disney's" above it on the sign. Who would think of a Big Mac as a "Disney Burger". Bringing Lucas and Marvel into the fold dilutes the Disney brand. Everyone is still going to believe that the creative firepower behind the new Star Wars is Lucas Film. Not Walt Disney Pictures.

 

[Cesar R M]

Not to steal @Cesar R M 's thunder but...

let me line up with you...

 

[Cesar R M]

The new Avengers movie has already made over 200 mil overseas, and those are just opening numbers...

are these numbers PREDICTIONS or REAL CONFIRMED stuff?

not the first time predictions fail to "fit" the real thing.
Like dreamworks's HOME expectations of both rottentomatoes and boxofficemojo.

 

[Tigger1988]

are these numbers PREDICTIONS or REAL CONFIRMED stuff?

not the first time predictions fail to "fit" the real thing.
Like dreamworks's HOME expectations of both rottentomatoes and boxofficemojo.

Not predictions, I even linked to the article.

 

[stevehousse]

Why are we even debating numbers for AOU when we all know it will do extremely well no matter what people say about it! I'm more interested in seeing how Tommorowland will fare between all the big May releases this year!

 

[Quinnmac000]

Why are we even debating numbers for AOU when we all know it will do extremely well no matter what people say about it! I'm more interested in seeing how Tommorowland will fare between all the big May releases this year!

It will do well here but weak overseas especially Asia. End up making 750 Mil Total is my prediction. George Clooney was a strong choice to helm the film which will bring in viewers. However, the anticipation and hype for the film is relevantly low in comparison to other films coming out this summer. Inside Out will outgross it overseas easily but probably not in the US.

 

[stevehousse]

Speaking of Tomorrowland, why can't we have kick butt trailers like this!

 

[Funmeister]

Crush's Coaster has abysmal capacity and show scene wise would be similar to Seas with Nemo and Friends.

Just an example. Monsters Inc. door coaster then or the Mnsters attraction at DCA then.....

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Because it fundamentally changes the publics perception of what "Disney" is. Whether that's good or bad is arguable. Is trading 77 years of brand building for a giant pile of cash good?

The Walt Disney Company is not the same thing as the Disney brand. ESPN is the easiest example. Nobody watching SportsCenter is going to thing they're watching Disney-branded content even though most people know that Disney owns ESPN. The brands of Pixar, Marvel, Lucas, ABC, ESPN, and Disney are separate and distinct. It's Marvel's The Avengers, not Disney's The Avengers.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The Walt Disney Company is not the same thing as the Disney brand. ESPN is the easiest example. Nobody watching SportsCenter is going to thing they're watching Disney-branded content even though most people know that Disney owns ESPN. The brands of Pixar, Marvel, Lucas, ABC, ESPN, and Disney are separate and distinct. It's Marvel's The Avengers, not Disney's The Avengers.

Except when Disney does things like essentially pull Marvel from ComicCon San Diego in favor of the D23 Expo.

 

[Funmeister]

"Back in the day" there was a three man crew who were solely dedicated to replacing bulbs. They would aim to replace anything at 80% of life expectancy. They weren't always perfect but that was their job.

Public realm maintainence is on the up again it seems thankfully, at least in DHS and the MK, but is still less than it used to be.

Reminds me of an old joke,

How many Cast Members does it take to screw in a light bulb? None. You have to call DACS.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

The Walt Disney Company is not the same thing as the Disney brand. ESPN is the easiest example. Nobody watching SportsCenter is going to thing they're watching Disney-branded content even though most people know that Disney owns ESPN. The brands of Pixar, Marvel, Lucas, ABC, ESPN, and Disney are separate and distinct. It's Marvel's The Avengers, not Disney's The Avengers.

Wait, weren't the pro-Disney people just saying how good of a fit Star Wars is for Disney? Like a seemless integration of family entertainment.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Wait, weren't the pro-Disney people just saying how good of a fit Star Wars is for Disney? Like a seemless integration of family entertainment.

Let's be very clear and specific. I'm only speaking for me, not "the pro-Disney people."

1. I think Star Wars is a great fit for The Walt Disney Company.

2. I think Star Wars is a great fit for Disney's Hollywood Studios, assuming they maintain the current "story" of a permanently broken fourth wall. You're entering the Star Wars movies, not actually travelling to Coruscant and Tatooine.

3. I hate hate hate with a passion the idea of Star Wars in Tomorrowland. Ten billion times worse than Frozestrom.

 

[spacemt354]

The Walt Disney Company is not the same thing as the Disney brand. ESPN is the easiest example. Nobody watching SportsCenter is going to thing they're watching Disney-branded content even though most people know that Disney owns ESPN. The brands of Pixar, Marvel, Lucas, ABC, ESPN, and Disney are separate and distinct. It's Marvel's The Avengers, not Disney's The Avengers.

Except when Disney does things like essentially pull Marvel from ComicCon San Diego in favor of the D23 Expo.

I wouldn't say they are necessarily separate and distinct, but I would say that a majority of the time, you don't watch ESPN because it's Disney owned (some people might, I don't) It acts as it's own brand.

It's times like the one mentioned with Marvel skipping San Diego Comic Con where Disney's presence is felt again. With that said, it does make some sense. Look how much attention Marvel got on a random Tuesday in October when they announced all of Phase 3. They would be competing for attention with DC BvS, etc at Comic Con and saturate their influence.

At a Disney event they can have their own time in the sun, but at the same time it shows they aren't completely distinct from Disney.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

I wouldn't say they are necessarily separate and distinct, but I would say that a majority of the time, you don't watch ESPN because it's Disney owned (some people might, I don't) It acts as it's own brand.

It's times like the one mentioned with Marvel skipping San Diego Comic Con where Disney's presence is felt again. With that said, it does make some sense. Look how much attention Marvel got on a random Tuesday in October when they announced all of Phase 3. They would be competing for attention with DC BvS, etc at Comic Con and saturate their influence.

At a Disney event they can have their own time in the sun, but at the same time it shows they aren't completely distinct from Disney.

Phase 3 of what?

 

[spacemt354]

Let's be very clear and specific. I'm only speaking for me, not "the pro-Disney people."

1. I think Star Wars is a great fit for The Walt Disney Company.

2. I think Star Wars is a great fit for Disney's Hollywood Studios, assuming they maintain the current "story" of a permanently broken fourth wall. You're entering the Star Wars movies, not actually travelling to Coruscant and Tatooine.

3. I hate hate hate with a passion the idea of Star Wars in Tomorrowland. Ten billion times worse than Frozestrom.

I can agree with you on the Star Wars front. "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away" is not about the future.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Except when Disney does things like essentially pull Marvel from ComicCon San Diego in favor of the D23 Expo.

Marvel's last big announcement was a Marvel-only event. Neither D23 nor SDCC. Further, having a Marvel presence at D23 doesn't make it a Disney-branded product any more than having it at SDCC makes it a ComicCon branded product or a Game of Thrones branded product.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Phase 3 of what?

The Marvel Cinematic Universe. The movies that will come after Ant-Man.

 

[spacemt354]

Phase 3 of what?

The Marvel Cinematic Universe. It was an announcement at the El Capitan Theater in late October.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Marvel's last big announcement was a Marvel-only event. Neither D23 nor SDCC. Further, having a Marvel presence at D23 doesn't make it a Disney-branded product any more than having it at SDCC makes it a ComicCon branded product or a Game of Thrones branded product.

Now you're trying to hard. Yes, having it at D23 exactly means it is 100% Disney.