lazyboy97o
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And there is not so much to see in the U.S. that people settle for Disney theme parks?
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Animaniac93-98
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I respect people's opinions on foreign travel, but if you're the kind of Disney fan who goes to WDW once a year or more out of habbit, then it's actually a better use of your time and money to combine a short Disney "stop-over" with another locale. You'll still get your Disney fix, but see more of the world in the process.
PhotoDave219
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hmm.. dungeons.. does it means you will wear rubber and a whip Mr. Dave?
Whats a ..... you know, Steve is gonna yell at us and Marcia will be horrified. Better stop this one.
zweltar
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We can't stop, you didn't use the safe word.
PhotoDave219
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Supercalifragalisticexpialadocious.
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DLP is insanely expensive to visit, I live in the UK 2 hrs away at most, priced up 7 days to DLP £2100 !!! that is £700 less than i am paying for my Trip this year to Disney in Florida all in for 2 weeks. I would like to see DLP but not at those prices, oh and that was before park tickets too.
cdd89
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That's a great point, and it works well the other way too: Europe isn't exactly short of things to do and destinations to see, but that doesn't stop me from taking "yet another" weekend trip to DLP.
I think part of the problem is that a lot of people travel with the philosophy that they "may never be back". On the face of it that's reasonable... But the result is that you end up running around like a mad person, and sacrificing activities you'd find enjoyable in-the-moment for activities lauded as worthy or culturally significant.
I've always thought it's interesting that "seeing local culture" is one of the most frequently cited reasons for international travel, followed by visiting "local tourist attraction" after "local tourist attraction". Most of the time, you can either see local culture, *or* great tourist attractions, but not both. International Disney Parks, that attract locals, are a rare opportunity to do both simultaneously.
Plus, I love coming across Americans in DLP - I always end up talking to them; it's like the trademark signature of a Disney Parks nerd. ;-)
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ford91exploder
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That describes the average american pretty well...
ford91exploder
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This Month,Week or Today, Resort wide failures are not that uncommon.
Disneyhead'71
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I too will admit that after 3 weeks in Poland, the first McD's I saw in Vienna was a blessing. All I got was a Coke with ice in it. The ice was luxury.
lazyboy97o
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Why would you go for 7 days? That makes no sense as its 1.5 parks. You also don't have to stay on site as the train station makes it easy to get to from many more places.
Nemo14
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I have to agree with you there Tom. I will never understand people right here in America who spend every vacation handing their hard-earned money over to the Mouse when there is so much to see outside of the bubble in our own country. The state parks, and particularly our national parks are such a treasure, yet so many people choose repeat visits to Orlando rather than discover what our country has to offer!
NearTheEars
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I think that's 3 now, in a year an a half or so. So that's a little exaggerated.
BUT... What is inexcusable is them not having a full proof backup plan when it does go down. How that slipped through the cracks is crazy.
bhg469
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I can see a backup easily work for most of the systems on their own, especially at the entry turnstiles but making all the separate systems talk during an outage or interruption is probably a nightmare.
ford91exploder
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Not really - We hear about it when it goes down for an extended period, When I was there last August MM+ was not working for AP's only for the entire weekend and it was down intermittently for everyone the entire weekend we were there.
Because this was a 'Boardroom' IT project 'non-essentials' like backup systems were probably eliminated because a proper backup system for a enterprise system like this requires a alternate data center with a full set of hardware located preferably 100 or more miles away on a separate power grid so a local event like a tornado or flood does not affect both data centers also you need full path redundancy for your data links so the the east and west paths are never running in the same conduit.
Plus you need a synchronization mechanism to keep the the data in sync, Something like Panzura or a NetApp GeoCluster both give you a 'private' cloud.
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ford91exploder
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Trouble is that's EXACTLY what a true ENTERPRISE IT system is supposed to do, It's complex and expensive yet it is indeed a routine thing for most large companies, The fact that DIsney is unable or unwilling speaks volumes about it's corporate culture
Nubs70
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Didn't MM+ go live the same week as a large data center did out west?
£1800 for 8 days two adults including tickets and breakfast staying on site. Without one of the regular offers of more for less.
But you wouldn't need 8 days.
Goofyernmost
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Well, that's all very elitist, but whatever floats your boat. I'm heading for Europe in October. I am going to be in Paris for 4 days and one of those days I will be at DLP. The reason is simple, I am a Disney fan. I have spent a great deal of time discussing, reading about and researching Disney related things. I don't consider myself obsessed, just a Disney hobbyist. I have been to Paris before... I have seen the Louvre, I've been to the top of the Eiffel Tower, I been to Notre Dame, the west and the east bank sides of the river, I have dined in sidewalk cafe's (including one time when I found a chicken bone in the bottom of my wine bottle), I have walked the Champs Élysées. What I have not done is go to DLP which is just as much a part of the culture now as those dusty old buildings.
The one day that I am going to spend in DLP will not deprive me of the history and culture surrounding it. I will be spending almost a month in Europe so I will have absorbed plenty of culture during that time. I also went to Tokyo and didn't see TDL, course, it didn't exist at the time so that made it quite difficult to see.
There is an absolutely HUGE multi year improvement program currently going ahead. Hopefully their finances will be sorted out now for good. The place simply cost too much to build in 1990-92 and has been paying for it ever since.
As an example, the hotel refurb program is ELEVEN years long. One resort at a time is being virtually rebuilt and refurnished. It ends in 2021. Sequoia is done. Newport is halfway though. Then it's New York and then Disneyland. One value is done and Davey is mostly done too.
In the parks, again as an example, Space Mountain is down for six months this year, six next year. Thunder Mountain is closed for 11 months next year. By April 2017 the plan is to have the parks like new.
I've seen atrocious conditions at DLP, in attractions, the village and the resorts. And I've seen huge improvements over the years and am confident things will continue in the same direction.
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