A Spirited Perfect Ten

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
What will become of Wet N Wild once the new water park opens? I'm guessing it will be replaced by a new hotel.
There is a part of me that thinks they might hold on to Wet 'N Wild for a little while. It is already developed and operating as something that is not really considered part of the resort. Jumping across I-4 is going to be a big endeavor that, even with Universal's recent speed, will take some time (look at how long we've been talking about the water park). Might as well keep the land generating revenue in the mean time.
 

Disneyhead'71

Well-Known Member
There is a part of me that thinks they might hold on to Wet 'N Wild for a little while. It is already developed and operating as something that is not really considered part of the resort. Jumping across I-4 is going to be a big endeavor that, even with Universal's recent speed, will take some time (look at how long we've been talking about the water park). Might as well keep the land generating revenue in the mean time.
Well, the water park and Sapphire Falls are going to take up the last of the available land around the main campus. And after Saffire Falls, they still want to add about 5K more hotel rooms. So, I think that, while they may take a breather after Saffire Falls and WonderSea open. The WnW plot is next up for repouposing.
 

Disneyhead'71

Well-Known Member
I missed this. Are they actively moving dirt right now?
Tons!

From Twitter:
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Lee

Adventurer
Bob Iger's biggest fan in the Redstone family, Gary Snyder, (he of the censored Disney CEO Fumbles Entry to China HuffPo piece) was spotted out at Lantau Island's Disney outpost multiple times in the last week according to a top source. Once he was seen with two Chinese businessmen (not dressed for a theme park ... i.e. Party types) and another Westerner walking and ''engrossed in serious conversation'' from Fantasyland to Tomorrowland and, apparently, again on Easter Sunday drinking at Disney's Hollywood Hotel.
And the plot thickens...

Sorry, Bob...perhaps the Chinese liked that article more than you did...;)
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Spirited China Musings (Character Dim Sum available for extra cost):

One of HKDL's original attractions/shows will be going away late this summer to make way for something new. The Golden Mickeys (a true E-Ticket stage show if there ever was one) will be ending its run from 2005 to make way for a new 10th anniversary spectacular that will be taking over the theater later this fall. I don't know specifics of the new show, but I'd expect to see lots of recent characters (Frozen, Frozen, Frozen ... and some of the other films like Tangled, Princess and Frog, Wreck it Ralph, Brave etc may have appearances).

Because of its popularity, this is a very risky move. The show is considered one of the top attractions in the park, rated by guests ahead of attractions like Mystic Manor and Space Mountain.

To be clear, this show is not a copy of the Once Upon a Time show debuting in Shanghai (you know, the place Bob Iger can't be shown at in a photo!) which is more of an introduction to the world of Disney type show.

New daytime parade will also be debuting only five years after the last (they clearly don't know that parades are supposed to go on forever as they do in FL!)

There has been a delay in announcing next attraction (after Iron Man) for HKDL, and it may have something to do with larger long term plans. Developing ...

Bob Iger's biggest fan in the Redstone family, Gary Snyder, (he of the censored Disney CEO Fumbles Entry to China HuffPo piece) was spotted out at Lantau Island's Disney outpost multiple times in the last week according to a top source. Once he was seen with two Chinese businessmen (not dressed for a theme park ... i.e. Party types) and another Westerner walking and ''engrossed in serious conversation'' from Fantasyland to Tomorrowland and, apparently, again on Easter Sunday drinking at Disney's Hollywood Hotel.

And speaking of drinking at HKDL ...

I must have missed it, but apparently there is no real bar at the HKDL Hotel. I wasn't aware of it because of the lounge like area next to the lobby, which I had assumed was a bar. It's not, it was formally used as a Tea Room. And the small bar in the Crystal Lotus is used for show only according to a top CM friend/source (who has no idea why this is the case!) Of course, Walt's Cafe is apparently a hidden in plain sight gem, which I believe @WDWFigment has pigged out on non In-N-Out burger food. (BTW, very glad to see you finally made it to Knott's. It really is a fun quality piece of California history that had bottomed out about 5-6 years ago and has rediscovered its heritage ... amazing how people respond to that!)

No, the Chinese all know Disney characters. That's why ever since I started going, the CMs are constantly giving out kewl stickers (I am sure 33-year-old fanbois buy them on eBay!) of usually 15-20 characters with their names prominently displayed. That isn't because Disney is as well known as Bob Iger wants you to believe. I'm sure.

There are plans to replace the tired Disney in the Stars nightly pyro and projection show on Lantau and the replacement will likely be more projection based due to pyro limits that I don't quite understand.

Thank you!!!

No real sympathy about the Golden Mickey's. It had a good run, but is becoming quite long in the tooth, and cheesy.

When you mention next attraction after Iron Man, are you not referring to TSMM? Or do you mean the attraction after that?
 
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WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Spirited Smoking Gun?

Let's put some links out, explain a bit and then see where things go ... but this might explain why Bob Iger was so quick and so willing to have his lovely wife, Willow Bay, censor an Op-Ed in the HuffPo ... or, if you would prefer to believe otherwise, then perhaps this might explain why it was so important for the column to simply vanish.

Read this one first:

http://www.fcpablog.com/blog/2015/4...fficial-detained-for-alleged-shanghai-di.html

Now this one:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/128...gation/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Also, apparently, even the WSJ has mentioned this major case of graft accusations, although leaving out his role (which I believe to be substantial) in Shanghai Disneyland's approval and development. Chinese language only news outlets in the mainland have reported, in somewhat of a departure from protocol, greater detail of the exact allegations.

Dai Haibo, who was part of the infamous Shanghai delegation to Disneyland Paris in 2006 that I personally witnessed and watched as Karl Holz almost single-handedly destroyed work that had begun in the 1990s when he was still managing food and beverage at Pleasure Island, was reported to have been taken into custody on March 2nd in the government's efforts to crackdown on graft.

On March 17th, the Central Government issued a news release formally announcing a ''serious violation of the law'' by the one-time Deputy Secretary General of the Shanghai Municipal Government.

At one time, and until the arrest, Dai was second only to the mayor of Shanghai in the structure of the local government -- and a rising star for the Party -- with the primary role of heading the Shanghai Free Trade Zone and, more importantly, the Pudong Tourism Development Area of which Shanghai Disneyland is the cornerstone castle.

The investigation as near as I can tell through sources in China and mainland media centers on Dai's role in improperly benefiting from real estate acquisition, demolition, and construction at the very site on which Shanghai Disneyland is now rising.

All of this, largely, occurred just after Gary Snyder's HuffPo column was wiped off the 'net by the freedom loving folks at The Walt Disney Company (I'm sure you 'net savvy people might understand why a tech neophyte like me has decided to write things out versus abbreviating.) In China, this is being viewed as one of the most high profile of recent arrests in the anti-graft campaign.

And to think, it involves The Walt Disney Company ... Bob Iger's Disney ... imagine that ... I can see why Disney CEO Fumbles Entry to China really couldn't stay out there.

Wonder how many news outlets here are opting to ignore this, something widely reported in evil, vile, Godless, Commie, Pinko China, because they are afraid of the Walt Disney Company and Robert A. Iger. I also wonder what that Snyder character, who was spotted by my own little minions of Disney destruction hanging out on Lantau with a couple of Party officials to celebrate Easter or Passover or neither, really knows and if the beloved (by the Chinese Party elders) and well-connected Redstone family was tipped off that this was happening and what more might be coming.

Again, I'm not saying I have all the facts, the news is coming out of China, after all. But things sure are starting to slide together into place ... I'd be very worried if I were Bob Iger. Very worried.

No, I don't expect Brooks Barnes to be writing about this. But I'd love it if someone emailed him this post ... any volunteers? When the China Daily, CCTV, Xinhua and others are reporting what the New York Times and basically every other news outlet in this country don't believe is something you should see or read about ... it does give one pause yet again about our wonderful supposed American democracy and free press.

Or, if you would prefer, it just makes you wonder what Iger has gotten himself and Disney into over in China.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Or, it could be that Iger has the right guanxi.
the whaaaa? XD

Spirited Smoking Gun?

Let's put some links out, explain a bit and then see where things go ... but this might explain why Bob Iger was so quick and so willing to have his lovely wife, Willow Bay, censor an Op-Ed in the HuffPo ... or, if you would prefer to believe otherwise, then perhaps this might explain why it was so important for the column to simply vanish.

Read this one first:

http://www.fcpablog.com/blog/2015/4...fficial-detained-for-alleged-shanghai-di.html

Now this one:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/128...gation/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Also, apparently, even the WSJ has mentioned this major case of graft accusations, although leaving out his role (which I believe to be substantial) in Shanghai Disneyland's approval and development. Chinese language only news outlets in the mainland have reported, in somewhat of a departure from protocol, greater detail of the exact allegations.

Dai Haibo, who was part of the infamous Shanghai delegation to Disneyland Paris in 2006 that I personally witnessed and watched as Karl Holz almost single-handedly destroyed work that had begun in the 1990s when he was still managing food and beverage at Pleasure Island, was reported to have been taken into custody on March 2nd in the government's efforts to crackdown on graft.

On March 17th, the Central Government issued a news release formally announcing a ''serious violation of the law'' by the one-time Deputy Secretary General of the Shanghai Municipal Government.

At one time, and until the arrest, Dai was second only to the mayor of Shanghai in the structure of the local government -- and a rising star for the Party -- with the primary role of heading the Shanghai Free Trade Zone and, more importantly, the Pudong Tourism Development Area of which Shanghai Disneyland is the cornerstone castle.

The investigation as near as I can tell through sources in China and mainland media centers on Dai's role in improperly benefiting from real estate acquisition, demolition, and construction at the very site on which Shanghai Disneyland is now rising.

All of this, largely, occurred just after Gary Snyder's HuffPo column was wiped off the 'net by the freedom loving folks at The Walt Disney Company (I'm sure you 'net savvy people might understand why a tech neophyte like me has decided to write things out versus abbreviating.) In China, this is being viewed as one of the most high profile of recent arrests in the anti-graft campaign.

And to think, it involves The Walt Disney Company ... Bob Iger's Disney ... imagine that ... I can see why Disney CEO Fumbles Entry to China really couldn't stay out there.

Wonder how many news outlets here are opting to ignore this, something widely reported in evil, vile, Godless, Commie, Pinko China, because they are afraid of the Walt Disney Company and Robert A. Iger. I also wonder what that Snyder character, who was spotted by my own little minions of Disney destruction hanging out on Lantau with a couple of Party officials to celebrate Easter or Passover or neither, really knows and if the beloved (by the Chinese Party elders) and well-connected Redstone family was tipped off that this was happening and what more might be coming.

Again, I'm not saying I have all the facts, the news is coming out of China, after all. But things sure are starting to slide together into place ... I'd be very worried if I were Bob Iger. Very worried.

No, I don't expect Brooks Barnes to be writing about this. But I'd love it if someone emailed him this post ... any volunteers? When the China Daily, CCTV, Xinhua and others are reporting what the New York Times and basically every other news outlet in this country don't believe is something you should see or read about ... it does give one pause yet again about our wonderful supposed American democracy and free press.

Or, if you would prefer, it just makes you wonder what Iger has gotten himself and Disney into over in China.
holy carp!! now thats something definitive there.
 

wogwog

Well-Known Member
In before that Disney pixie snorters say how Universal is making mountains out of ant hills ;)
Drove right by that mountain yesterday. It is probably the highest point in the state that is all dirt. Anything higher has concrete or steel. That equipment going up and down the hill is not "little". Those are full size earth moving machines.
 
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Longhairbear

Well-Known Member
Spirited China Musings (Character Dim Sum available for extra cost):

One of HKDL's original attractions/shows will be going away late this summer to make way for something new. The Golden Mickeys (a true E-Ticket stage show if there ever was one) will be ending its run from 2005 to make way for a new 10th anniversary spectacular that will be taking over the theater later this fall. I don't know specifics of the new show, but I'd expect to see lots of recent characters (Frozen, Frozen, Frozen ... and some of the other films like Tangled, Princess and Frog, Wreck it Ralph, Brave etc may have appearances).

Because of its popularity, this is a very risky move. The show is considered one of the top attractions in the park, rated by guests ahead of attractions like Mystic Manor and Space Mountain.

To be clear, this show is not a copy of the Once Upon a Time show debuting in Shanghai (you know, the place Bob Iger can't be shown at in a photo!) which is more of an introduction to the world of Disney type show.

New daytime parade will also be debuting only five years after the last (they clearly don't know that parades are supposed to go on forever as they do in FL!)

There has been a delay in announcing next attraction (after Iron Man) for HKDL, and it may have something to do with larger long term plans. Developing ...

Bob Iger's biggest fan in the Redstone family, Gary Snyder, (he of the censored Disney CEO Fumbles Entry to China HuffPo piece) was spotted out at Lantau Island's Disney outpost multiple times in the last week according to a top source. Once he was seen with two Chinese businessmen (not dressed for a theme park ... i.e. Party types) and another Westerner walking and ''engrossed in serious conversation'' from Fantasyland to Tomorrowland and, apparently, again on Easter Sunday drinking at Disney's Hollywood Hotel.

And speaking of drinking at HKDL ...

I must have missed it, but apparently there is no real bar at the HKDL Hotel. I wasn't aware of it because of the lounge like area next to the lobby, which I had assumed was a bar. It's not, it was formally used as a Tea Room. And the small bar in the Crystal Lotus is used for show only according to a top CM friend/source (who has no idea why this is the case!) Of course, Walt's Cafe is apparently a hidden in plain sight gem, which I believe @WDWFigment has pigged out on non In-N-Out burger food. (BTW, very glad to see you finally made it to Knott's. It really is a fun quality piece of California history that had bottomed out about 5-6 years ago and has rediscovered its heritage ... amazing how people respond to that!)

No, the Chinese all know Disney characters. That's why ever since I started going, the CMs are constantly giving out kewl stickers (I am sure 33-year-old fanbois buy them on eBay!) of usually 15-20 characters with their names prominently displayed. That isn't because Disney is as well known as Bob Iger wants you to believe. I'm sure.

There are plans to replace the tired Disney in the Stars nightly pyro and projection show on Lantau and the replacement will likely be more projection based due to pyro limits that I don't quite understand.

NON-China Spirited Musings (Food not included here, either):

So, the tiger tale was a totally bizarre make up deal with about 10% truth and the rest made up? Hmm ... sounds like a few Disney online personalities that I know (of).

Seems like O-Town parks have picked up a bit (I have heard both MK and EPCOT and both UNI parks have been quite crowded the last two days). I wonder if they all have wicked Massachusetts accents!

Can you be an O-Town blogger/podcaster/Lifestyler and NOT be at the kick-off to DL's 60th next month? Nah, didn't think so.

I know there's been plenty of NGE talk (largely on the numbers side, which is a place I don't dwell much -- but have enjoyed reading), but you notice how NONE of it has yet made it to Anaheim and/or Paris where certain aspects were supposed to be in place by ... 2015.

Oh, back to the Bloggers. Again, Dr. Blondie (my good friend, Jen!) and the DPB 'team' is hosting a meet-up to show off some new productions on DCL ships (basically the new Tangled show on the Disney Magic, which will likely come to the park without a name in the not too distant future ... I say that because I said it was coming like two years ago or more now and it hasn't yet!) You look at the list and again, most of the folks are O-Town Lifestylers. Disney is refusing to give anyone a chance to get it by not saying you can only attend one of these events a year or every six months (and that includes as someone's plus one!)

I know I rip Disney (and UNI, a little less), but I'd like y'all to know that I generally have disgust for 97% of American corporations based upon the way they treat their consumers and workers. Disney just used to be better. They used to actually care. They are no different than the others now, except they still revel in this PR lie that they are something special.

Love that monorail thread here. They have been ghetto for years now. They simply are not maintained and are filthy all the time and usually have barely functioning AC when I'm riding what once was The Highway in the Sky. I'd join that thread, but I just can't deal with apologists. Things are either acceptable or they aren't. And you don't make excuses for a multi-billion dollar corporation that produces record profits every quarter and built a reputation for the opposite of how they maintain things today. There is no good excuse and explanations don't count either, because people spend ridiculous sums of money for quality. Disney transport is anything but.

So, are the UNI fanbois hating on me because I've pointed out what hypocrites they are for not ripping Gringotts as much as they rip EE when they both destroy the climax by having non-functioning effects?
Wicked Massachusetts accents...lol, mine comes back when I get tipsy, or when I'm wicked tired.
 

Nemo14

Well-Known Member
Spirited Smoking Gun?

Let's put some links out, explain a bit and then see where things go ... but this might explain why Bob Iger was so quick and so willing to have his lovely wife, Willow Bay, censor an Op-Ed in the HuffPo ... or, if you would prefer to believe otherwise, then perhaps this might explain why it was so important for the column to simply vanish.

Read this one first:

http://www.fcpablog.com/blog/2015/4...fficial-detained-for-alleged-shanghai-di.html

Now this one:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/128...gation/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Also, apparently, even the WSJ has mentioned this major case of graft accusations, although leaving out his role (which I believe to be substantial) in Shanghai Disneyland's approval and development. Chinese language only news outlets in the mainland have reported, in somewhat of a departure from protocol, greater detail of the exact allegations.

Dai Haibo, who was part of the infamous Shanghai delegation to Disneyland Paris in 2006 that I personally witnessed and watched as Karl Holz almost single-handedly destroyed work that had begun in the 1990s when he was still managing food and beverage at Pleasure Island, was reported to have been taken into custody on March 2nd in the government's efforts to crackdown on graft.

On March 17th, the Central Government issued a news release formally announcing a ''serious violation of the law'' by the one-time Deputy Secretary General of the Shanghai Municipal Government.

At one time, and until the arrest, Dai was second only to the mayor of Shanghai in the structure of the local government -- and a rising star for the Party -- with the primary role of heading the Shanghai Free Trade Zone and, more importantly, the Pudong Tourism Development Area of which Shanghai Disneyland is the cornerstone castle.

The investigation as near as I can tell through sources in China and mainland media centers on Dai's role in improperly benefiting from real estate acquisition, demolition, and construction at the very site on which Shanghai Disneyland is now rising.

All of this, largely, occurred just after Gary Snyder's HuffPo column was wiped off the 'net by the freedom loving folks at The Walt Disney Company (I'm sure you 'net savvy people might understand why a tech neophyte like me has decided to write things out versus abbreviating.) In China, this is being viewed as one of the most high profile of recent arrests in the anti-graft campaign.

And to think, it involves The Walt Disney Company ... Bob Iger's Disney ... imagine that ... I can see why Disney CEO Fumbles Entry to China really couldn't stay out there.

Wonder how many news outlets here are opting to ignore this, something widely reported in evil, vile, Godless, Commie, Pinko China, because they are afraid of the Walt Disney Company and Robert A. Iger. I also wonder what that Snyder character, who was spotted by my own little minions of Disney destruction hanging out on Lantau with a couple of Party officials to celebrate Easter or Passover or neither, really knows and if the beloved (by the Chinese Party elders) and well-connected Redstone family was tipped off that this was happening and what more might be coming.

Again, I'm not saying I have all the facts, the news is coming out of China, after all. But things sure are starting to slide together into place ... I'd be very worried if I were Bob Iger. Very worried.

No, I don't expect Brooks Barnes to be writing about this. But I'd love it if someone emailed him this post ... any volunteers? When the China Daily, CCTV, Xinhua and others are reporting what the New York Times and basically every other news outlet in this country don't believe is something you should see or read about ... it does give one pause yet again about our wonderful supposed American democracy and free press.

Or, if you would prefer, it just makes you wonder what Iger has gotten himself and Disney into over in China.

th
 

MonkeyHead

Well-Known Member
I always enjoy The Spirit's posts... However you cannot compare the Kuka effect in Gringott's to the Yeti. First of all, it has NEVER been advertised as the star of the show. It's a great effect that if working correctly, guests will never even notice. The Yeti is the centerpiece. One that they STILL hype... After about a DECADE of being inactive.

Further, the Kuka screen effect is not permanently out of the show. It is actively being worked on. I don't get how two months = ten years. This is one of many reasons people aren't harping on the issue.

Personally, I'd rather them fix the in-vehicle audio issues well before the screen effect.
 

twebber55

Well-Known Member
As a local, I agree. But considering it will be walking distance of Uni's 3 largest hotels, it should go a long way into turning UOR into a multi-day destination for out-of-towners.
yeah I think more than anything the water park keeps people at Universal a day or so longer, brilliant on their part
 

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