xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Most people don't. Simplest answer. This whole corporate espionage angle that's been explored lately has a very narrow audience. Granted, an allegedly important audience, but still quite narrow.
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Most people don't. Simplest answer. This whole corporate espionage angle that's been explored lately has a very narrow audience. Granted, an allegedly important audience, but still quite narrow.
maxairmike
Well-Known Member
So you don't find it the least bit odd that none of the current executive team has a publicity photo anywhere at all to be found of them at the site, while the former CEO of the company does?
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
He IS correct, However WHERE they come from is not stated (Govt sponsored hacking vs privately sponsored hacking)
Anyone who is a stockholder or has a vested interest in the long term health of the company.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
senor_jorge
Barbara Eden+? Bring it!!
I am. Talking to a couple of people I know well that have worked in China extensively has been educational to me, and why I'm keeping an open mind.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Makes one wonder as a final FOXTROT-UNIFORM to TWDC Shendi Shanghai appoints MDE to run SDL..., Unlikely yes but by no means impossible. And TWDC would just have to suck it up as in China when the CCP makes a decision you stand at attention and salute.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Yes It is quite a different world over there is it not?.
Katie G
Well-Known Member
some other fun thoughts:
9. Tatooine: Jaba's pleasure yacht or palace
10. The coliseum thing from Episode II
11. A ride around Episode III's fight between Dooku and Obi Wan or saving the Emperor from Dooku's shuttle
To quote someone famous "Why at this point does it matter?"
Exactly. Only cheese steaks and IT issues are allowed here.Could all you little imagineers take your ideas over to the imagineer threads?
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I said this before, but it's worth repeating. Anyone who cares about Disney as a company and especially Disney P&R should care about the fate of this project. I doubt I'll ever step foot in the park, but if it fails any hope of major development for WDW could be sidetracked for years or even decades. This is Iger's legacy (along with his trifecta of acquisitions). The street is not going to be receptive to future P&R capital projects if this one bombs.
As far as the picture itself, I'm not panicking and thinking its a sure sign of major problems but it does seem rather odd. It's Iger's legacy. You'd think he'd at least want a selfie
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
All food is allowed here
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
I said this before, but it's worth repeating. Anyone who cares about Disney as a company and especially Disney P&R should care about the fate of this project. I doubt I'll ever step foot in the park, but if it fails any hope of major development for WDW could be sidetracked for years or even decades. This is Iger's legacy (along with his trifecta of acquisitions). The street is not going to be receptive to future P&R capital projects if this one bombs.
As far as the picture itself, I'm not panicking and thinking its a sure sign of major problems but it does seem rather odd. It's Iger's legacy. You'd think he'd at least want a selfie
The CCP view Iger as a 'useful idiot' they basically got TWDC to fund THEIR park, As to the 'contract' well in China contracts say what the CCP says they say. Best analogy is Darth Vader on Bespin.
Remember MDE was offered the SAME deal and he turned it down FLAT simply because under the terms of the deal China's CCP basically has full control and TWDC has none.
Note google the term 'useful idiot' it has a very specific meaning.
CaptainAmerica
Well-Known Member
I doubt "the street" is going to extrapolate any conclusions from the success or failure of a Shanghai project and apply them to Orlando or any of the domestic operations. Shanghai, cruise ships, and NGE are all unique animals that need to be evaluated on their own merits but don't carry much predictive power in terms of "normal" capital expenditures. When it comes to the long-term fate of WDW, it's much more important how Avatar and DCA play out than whatever happens in China.
Lee
Adventurer
Like the saying goes...great minds think alike...
But seriously....the potential quagmire that Disney is getting into over there should be of interest to all Disney park fans.
"The street" hates P&R, and all they need is an excuse to frown on any CapEx at all.
They hate it for two reasons :
They don't "get it ", see it as less sexy than other parts of the company.
And more importantly, margins are relatively low.
CaptainAmerica
Well-Known Member
Agree to disagree. The street loves growth and recent growth has come from two places (primarily) in both Revenue and OI: Domestic Parks and ESPN. As ESPN faces rising pressures from cord cutters and rights costs, Domestic Parks become even more critical.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Yes exactly and pleasing the
'Street is why TWDC P&R capex is at levels BELOW SIX FLAGS!