A Spirited Perfect Ten

[Cesar R M]

Maybe not... universal love to recycle ideas... I can see a monorail ride (or even cooler a people mover type ride in one of those balls) that could take you to another site a la harry potter (wet and wild site anyone?)

more like volcano bay?
It would be more fitting theme wise (from Jurassic park area to volcano bay)

 

[Bairstow]

if that thing is built.. I'm sold!

I can't imagine the spheres being "real", though, let alone rotating simply because of how scratched they would immediately get.

IF someone were to build a ride, it seems like the most logical way to do it would be to have an indoor dark ride where the ride vehicles have a hemispherical perspex dome that fits over the riders after load. At some point in the attraction, embedded screens or, more likely, a small onboard projector could make cracks appear in the plastic bubble, which could then be retracted, mid-ride in a brief period of darkness with accompanying "glass breaking" sounds. Same way Alien Encounter worked. I don't know how you get around the kayfabe reason the ride vehicle still moving, though- maybe show riders in the pre-show that it has auxiliary wheels? Have the frame be sliding down a muddy riverbed? If they wanted to be really fancy they could make it another robocoaster and have the ride vehicles be lifted up off the track in the "jaws" of something and slung around for a while.

Imagine it- a less screen-heavy version of Forbidden Journey set in a rainy, dark section of a dinosaur-filed jungle.
It would be like a supercharged version of Countdown to Extinction, since the threat to the riders would always be in front of them, instead of way off to the sides.

 

[Mike S]

indeed.. and it just propels Chris Pratt even further in the stardom.

One day............

 

[ford91exploder]

If I may shift gears here for a moment. A small, but important (to me at least) side note, is to recognize that while Disney is not only alienating their core customers by targeting higher income households and placing a primary interest in them, they are also short changing their own employees by blocking out 99% of the summer season for them and their families.

They have let MK become so crowded by neglecting the other parks and creating enough draw to them, that now they make their hard working, low wage earning, mostly college student employees suffer. It seems the company will allow everyone to suffer from their lack of knowing how to properly run a theme park before they do anything about it.

Here's the rub Disney is targeting the top 5% however they are overwhelmingly going to UNI instead because the accomodations are better and the service is better. Disney is selling WalMart goods at Nordstrom Prices that strategy is doomed to failure.

 

[Bairstow]

Here's the rub Disney is targeting the top 5% however they are overwhelmingly going to UNI instead because the accomodations are better and the service is better. Disney is selling WalMart goods at Nordstrom Prices that strategy is doomed to failure.

Do you have numbers to back this up?

 

[PhotoDave219]

So I've come across a wild and unsubstantiated rumor that I felt is almost certainly false and doesn't deserve it's own thread.. so I figured I'd feed it to the sharks in here and see how fast they can rip it to pieces:

A tiny political blog I've never heard of is claiming to have a source claiming that Disney is behind the abrupt (and quite frankly strange) closure of Sweet Briar College in Amherst County, Virginia:

https://athensschool.wordpress.com/...he-sweetbriar-closing-disney-america-is-back/

"We are hearing from a source in position to know that this beautiful land is the reason that Sweet Briar is closing. Because there is a buyer ready to move quickly and quietly to purchase the whole lot, historic buildings and all. This buyer has the immense economic power and major influence to keep the related decisions silent, immediate, and final. Who? Well, it has a lot to do with a similar land deal of about 3,000 acres that got scuttled about twenty years ago. According to our source, the reason Sweet Briar is closing is to make way for:

Boy they are way off base… They can't even get there factual history correct.

Disney actually did close on the 2000 acres of land that it's over there *points* Behind that Starbucks. It's now Boy Scout camp and was donated by Disney. So that's the first part, there was a deal in place and it just went to hell with all the backlash. Apparently they wanted strip malls & McMansions instead.

It did lead to I 66 getting widened though.

 

[Mike S]

I can't imagine the spheres being "real", though, let alone rotating simply because of how scratched they would immediately get.

IF someone were to build a ride, it seems like the most logical way to do it would be to have an indoor dark ride where the ride vehicles have a hemispherical perspex dome that fits over the riders after load. At some point in the attraction, embedded screens or, more likely, a small onboard projector could make cracks appear in the plastic bubble, which could then be retracted, mid-ride in a brief period of darkness with accompanying "glass breaking" sounds. Same way Alien Encounter worked. I don't know how you get around the kayfabe reason the ride vehicle still moving, though- maybe show riders in the pre-show that it has auxiliary wheels? Have the frame be sliding down a muddy riverbed? If they wanted to be really fancy they could make it another robocoaster and have the ride vehicles be lifted up off the track in the "jaws" of something and slung around for a while.

Imagine it- a less screen-heavy version of Forbidden Journey set in a rainy, dark section of a dinosaur-filed jungle.
It would be like a supercharged version of Countdown to Extinction, since the threat to the riders would always be in front of them, instead of way off to the sides.

The way I see it working is as a fully surrounding simulator. Think Star Tours but in a sphere.

ETA: this would have the added benefit of being able to be worked into a tighter space which is what would be needed for an E Ticket addition to JP.

 

[ford91exploder]

So I've come across a wild and unsubstantiated rumor that I felt is almost certainly false and doesn't deserve it's own thread.. so I figured I'd feed it to the sharks in here and see how fast they can rip it to pieces:

A tiny political blog I've never heard of is claiming to have a source claiming that Disney is behind the abrupt (and quite frankly strange) closure of Sweet Briar College in Amherst County, Virginia:

https://athensschool.wordpress.com/...he-sweetbriar-closing-disney-america-is-back/

"We are hearing from a source in position to know that this beautiful land is the reason that Sweet Briar is closing. Because there is a buyer ready to move quickly and quietly to purchase the whole lot, historic buildings and all. This buyer has the immense economic power and major influence to keep the related decisions silent, immediate, and final. Who? Well, it has a lot to do with a similar land deal of about 3,000 acres that got scuttled about twenty years ago. According to our source, the reason Sweet Briar is closing is to make way for:

#FAIL

I'm not sure I want to live in Disney's America where Iger represents the Planter class and the remainder of us are indentured servants or worse.

 

[Cesar R M]

I can't imagine the spheres being "real", though, let alone rotating simply because of how scratched they would immediately get.

IF someone were to build a ride, it seems like the most logical way to do it would be to have an indoor dark ride where the ride vehicles have a hemispherical perspex dome that fits over the riders after load. At some point in the attraction, embedded screens or, more likely, a small onboard projector could make cracks appear in the plastic bubble, which could then be retracted, mid-ride in a brief period of darkness with accompanying "glass breaking" sounds. Same way Alien Encounter worked. I don't know how you get around the kayfabe reason the ride vehicle still moving, though- maybe show riders in the pre-show that it has auxiliary wheels? Have the frame be sliding down a muddy riverbed? If they wanted to be really fancy they could make it another robocoaster and have the ride vehicles be lifted up off the track in the "jaws" of something and slung around for a while.

Imagine it- a less screen-heavy version of Forbidden Journey set in a rainy, dark section of a dinosaur-filed jungle.
It would be like a supercharged version of Countdown to Extinction, since the threat to the riders would always be in front of them, instead of way off to the sides.

they could be just elevated platforms.. not full spheres.
Imagine them being hold in a similar way as the 7 dwarfs minetrain. but with another axis added.
The spheres would just rotate out of the range of the visitors's touch via a fixed seat in the middle.

One day............
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[PhotoDave219]

If I may shift gears here for a moment. A small, but important (to me at least) side note, is to recognize that while Disney is not only alienating their core customers by targeting higher income households and placing a primary interest in them, they are also short changing their own employees by blocking out 99% of the summer season for them and their families.

They have let MK become so crowded by neglecting the other parks and creating enough draw to them, that now they make their hard working, low wage earning, mostly college student employees suffer. It seems the company will allow everyone to suffer from their lack of knowing how to properly run a theme park before they do anything about it.

I agree. So far, year to date, out of the 164 days that have passed (or that I have data on), 82 have been blacked out for cast member main gates at the Magic Kingdom. A full 50% of the time.

I have the breakdowns on my computer and I will get to that a little later…

 

[Cesar R M]

You mean Bert Macklin.

Perhaps you know him by his other name... *dramatic pause*.. Star lord!

 

[Mike S]

Perhaps you know him by his other name... *dramatic pause*.. Star lord!

Who?

 

[Bairstow]

they could be just elevated platforms.. not full spheres.
Imagine them being hold in a similar way as the 7 dwarfs minetrain. but with another axis added.
The spheres would just rotate out of the range of the visitors's touch via a fixed seat in the middle.

To what end, though?
This would make the ride vehicle envelope unnecessarily huge, including under the vehicle, and mean that because the vehicle would have to lock to the track via the left or ride side of the car there would always be a considerable level of visual intrusion into the riders' field of view. This would also mean that the potential speed/maneuverability of the vehicle is hampered, not only because of the size of the gauge of track required but also because the center of gravity of each ride vehicle would be so high. Then you have the whole problem of keeping the perspex spheres clean and free of scratches.
It just seems like it would create so many more problems than are worth the visuals.

 

[Cesar R M]

Who?

also, I was reading this on boxofficemojo..
and I'm surprised how many records it shattered.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4068&p=.htm

500 million in a weekend? HOLY CARP!!!!

To what end, though?
This would make the ride vehicle envelope unnecessarily huge, including under the vehicle, and mean that because the vehicle would have to lock to the track via the left or ride side of the car there would always be a considerable level of visual intrusion into the riders' field of view. This would also mean that the potential speed/maneuverability of the vehicle is hampered, not only because of the size of the gauge of track required but also because the center of gravity of each ride vehicle would be so high. Then you have the whole problem of keeping the perspex spheres clean and free of scratches.
It just seems like it would create so many more problems than are worth the visuals.

you want a hug or what?
We can dream on having something like that. not need to rain in our parades.
chill.

 

[Bairstow]

The way I see it working is as a fully surrounding simulator. Think Star Tours but in a sphere.

ETA: this would have the added benefit of being able to be worked into a tighter space which is what would be needed for an E Ticket addition to JP.

The space wouldn't be THAT small. How many simulator pods are we talking about?
And please, for the love of God, don't encourage or wish for Universal to install more screen-based attractions.
The place is already practically a Best Buy as it is.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Disney has become the snake eating its own tail.

They raise their prices high enough to force guests to stay offsite to save money which in turn allows said guest to discover Uni which then takes a day or more away from Disney which leads to Disney being upset about loosing market share and having their customers discover a theme park that actually builds attractions and offers quality at an affordable price, which then leads Disney to spend $2 billion dollars on rubber bracelets to try and trap guests into staying on property, which then bombs in terms of revenue boosting, so they fall back to $9 cupcakes galore, raising prices and slashing budgets to offset the bottom line and keep shareholders happy but they wrap it up in a shiny box with Super heroes on it and ship it you and tell you it was all done to "enhance" your experience!

Meanwhile, USO follows the basic recipe of adding to the parks and their profits, and turnstyle clicks continue to rise.

And yet, the parks are still jammed full. Something isn't adding up.

 

[BernardandBianca]

Anyone else get "An Exclusive Offer for Florida Residents" from the Four Seasons Resort Orlando at Walt Disney World? "Enjoy rates from $295 that include Valet Parking and Wi-Fi. Available for select dates now through July 1, 2015 and August 17 - October 4, 2015."

Compare that to the Grand Flo rate of $361/night on average for Outer Bldg - Garden View that I just looked up on the Disney site.

 

[Goofywilliam]

So I've come across a wild and unsubstantiated rumor that I felt is almost certainly false and doesn't deserve it's own thread.. so I figured I'd feed it to the sharks in here and see how fast they can rip it to pieces:

A tiny political blog I've never heard of is claiming to have a source claiming that Disney is behind the abrupt (and quite frankly strange) closure of Sweet Briar College in Amherst County, Virginia:

https://athensschool.wordpress.com/...he-sweetbriar-closing-disney-america-is-back/

"We are hearing from a source in position to know that this beautiful land is the reason that Sweet Briar is closing. Because there is a buyer ready to move quickly and quietly to purchase the whole lot, historic buildings and all. This buyer has the immense economic power and major influence to keep the related decisions silent, immediate, and final. Who? Well, it has a lot to do with a similar land deal of about 3,000 acres that got scuttled about twenty years ago. According to our source, the reason Sweet Briar is closing is to make way for:

This would be amazing but I'm remaining cautiously optimistic. I would love to have a Disney park less than two hours from my home!

 

[Mike S]

The space wouldn't be THAT small. How many simulator pods are we talking about?
And please, for the love of God, don't encourage or wish for Universal to install more screen-based attractions.
The place is already practically a Best Buy as it is.

Well any other way of using a Gyrosphere as a ride vehicle I would imagine would be way too complicated. There's nothing inherently wrong with screens. Like other things in life, it's how you use them. Star Tours imo is one of the best examples because of the fact you're supposed to be looking out a window in the StarSpeeder so it fits really well. If Uni could make a ride that takes that and fully surrounds you (above, below, behind, and to the sides) it could be an amazing experience.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Just remember that that is only a blackout on bringing guests in - not on cast and DCP going in. It gets confused a lot. I can go into MK in July except 7/4. I cannot bring anyone else in for the entire month.

I thought I was clear on that.