A Spirited Dirty Dozen ...

[Nickels5]

Me? Never!!! If Disney doesn't want people like him who "get it" working for them anymore I think he should go over to Universal and help with that third park. Just imagine what he could do over there with Comcast's current expansion attitude.

Can I ask why you post here? Everyone of your posts is how universal is better then Disney, your profile picture is of universal studios. I think everyone gets it you love universal studios, try being fair and unbiased for once.

 

[invader]

Can I ask why you post here? Everyone of your posts is how universal is better then Disney, your profile picture is of universal studios. I think everyone gets it you love universal studios, try being fair and unbiased for once.

Truth hurts. Mike S is pretty fair and unbiased.

 

[Mike S]

Can I ask why you post here? Everyone of your posts is how universal is better then Disney, your profile picture is of universal studios. I think everyone gets it you love universal studios, try being fair and unbiased for once.

You were saying?

Can we all just agree that this looks incredible?

My profile pic is more reflective of my excitement of finally being able to see Nintendo in theme parks. Them and Disney pretty much made my childhood. Star Wars Land looks incredible as well but since we'll probably have to wait till 2020 for that to appear in WDW, you get the idea. If I really hated it I wouldn't go. That post btw was reflective of Disney pretty much kicking Tony to the curb. Why shouldn't someone want to see him continue to work elsewhere? Also is this about my comments in the Dinosaur thread? All I said was Japan's T-Rex in JPRA is better than the Carnotaurs in Dinosaur and that Walking with Dinosars Live crushes both attractions in the AA department, lol.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

The simple fact is that it's the old class of imagineers that made Disney what it is today. They deserve our praise moreso than whatever brand they happen to be working under at the moment, and we have every reason to criticize Disney for throwing the best ones under the bus. If Disney's executives are no longer willing to foster their work (even going so far as to thank them for all their decades of hard work by firing them), then i'd rather they move on where they ARE allowed off the leash.

If he can't knock some sense into Disney execs, then I do hope Tony Baxter takes up a position at Universal Creative or somewhere similar. Better than never being allowed near a project again. It does however seem that like pretty much all of us here, he's a big Disney fanboy and feels more of a personal connection (albeit with bitter feelings at the moment) to Disney than Universal. He also seems to still hold out hope that Iger's replacement will be an improvement and allow him to fix imagineering.

I can't blame him because I totally get it, I wouldn't be here if I didn't feel the same way about Disney. The thing is- if nothing ever does get better (and Iger's replacement is more of the same or worse), we may finally have to give up on Disney and move on. If it truly does come to that (hopefully it does not and new leadership can enact change), I hope Tony can himself move on and continue to create awesome things. Disney lives on in minds like his (in everything besides the Disney name), no matter what brand he works under.

 

[thehowiet]

Can I ask why you post here? Everyone of your posts is how universal is better then Disney, your profile picture is of universal studios. I think everyone gets it you love universal studios, try being fair and unbiased for once.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but calling out @Mike S, a highly active contributor who has been around here for a little awhile, probably isn't the best way for a newer member to introduce themselves to the forums. I think over time you'll find that many posters here call things like they see them, the good and the bad...if over time you find that you aren't a fan of reading opinions contrary to your own, there is an ignore feature that can take care of that for you.

 

[Andrew C]

Please don't take this the wrong way, but calling out @Mike S, a highly active contributor who has been around here for a little awhile, probably isn't the best way for a newer member to introduce themselves to the forums. I think over time you'll find that many posters here call things like they seem them, the good and the bad...if over time you find that you aren't a fan of reading opinions contrary to your own, there is an ignore feature that can take care of that for you.

Haha. Yeah. Mike is pretty reasonable. Except for the fact that he may die if nintendo land doesn't hit Uni in the next year or so.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Can I ask why you post here? Everyone of your posts is how universal is better then Disney, your profile picture is of universal studios. I think everyone gets it you love universal studios, try being fair and unbiased for once.

That was addressed six months ago. Thanks for keeping up.

 

[BrianLo]

Except for the fact that he may die if nintendo land doesn't hit Uni in the next year or so.

Uh oh. Hopefully we can resurrect him three years later. This project is on a Disney-like timeline.

Freezing oneself (like Cartman for the Wii) seems a viable option.

 

[jensenrick]

I'm not complaining. I think my post was fair; I don't want to see a fully-CGI remake, but I think it's an inescapable thing. I am a motion graphics animator and videographer full-time. If I didn't believe in the tech, I wouldn't do what I do for a living. I just want to see it done well, and as the first part of my post suggests (as does my last line saying I'll give them the benefit of the doubt): I am hoping for the best, giving the time they are spending on it.

My negative feeling I expressed is that from what I have seen and heard is that it, as a film, seems more derivative than other recent projects. I'm hoping as time passes and we see more, instead we'll see it has something new to bring to the table.

What did you think of the new Jungle Book? (assuming you've seen it)
Because here's what I don't get- it's got the parts people are not thrilled with - 1) total CGI - check! 2) totally derivative - check! (and personally I found it VERY boring) yet it RAVE reviews from all corners.
I just don't get it.

 

[No Name]

Wanda will be fine: both companies are aimed at Different segments of the market.

SDL will be fine. The only bright side (if you can call it that) of getting into bed with the CCP is they will make sure it doesn't fail....

Yeah, I agree. It's sort of like how Six Flags isn't really competing with Disney. I actually think that's very comparable to this. Both are very different, both have different price points and different audiences. Six Flags parks are closer to many, so they can make a fun day trip, while Disney is a big vacation. I like both but for entirely different reasons.

Difference is, the CEO of Six Flags understands that his business is different, and so he doesn't make comments like Wang made. I would be totally fine if Disney and Wanda peacefully coexist. The problem is that Mr. Wang, as made evident through his words, doesn't seem totally fine with that.

The CCP on Disney's side is certainly a good thing too.

I'll take his advice and lectures like I take all politicians advice and lectures. I throw it in the garbage where it belongs.

And I usually do that, but Bernie is saying something that I believe most of us here strongly agree with. It doesn't matter whether or not you "feel the Bern," and I don't mean to be political at all because I hate that. It's just that I agree with what he said, and it very highly relates to Disney and the discussion of price increases, cuts, bad CMs, etc.

We can express our distress on these topics all we want. But when something like this comes out of the mouth of a presidential candidate, it will draw ears.

 

[Mike S]

Haha. Yeah. Mike is pretty reasonable. Except for the fact that he may die if nintendo land doesn't hit Uni in the next year or so.

Lol!!! I'm hoping the wait for that won't be as bad with everything that's opening between now and whenever it's coming. King Kong, Fallon, F&F, Volcano Bay, and that rumored Avengers E Ticket make the wait for Nintendo somewhat easier to take. I would be lying though if I said I wasn't bummed that it's been over a year since the announcement and we haven't gotten any news except for a possible 2020 opening at USJ and rumors of Mario Kart and possibly a DK family coaster. Makes you wonder why the announcement came seemingly early like Avatar. This one hopefully won't take 6 years.

 

[Andrew C]

And I usually do that, but Bernie is saying something that I believe most of us here strongly agree with. It doesn't matter whether or not you "feel the Bern," and I don't mean to be political at all because I hate that. It's just that I agree with what he said, and it very highly relates to Disney and the discussion of price increases, cuts, bad CMs, etc.

We can express our distress on these topics all we want. But when something like this comes out of the mouth of a presidential candidate, it will draw ears.

It's just empty rhetoric. If people want to get excited about it, that is their choice.

 

[theRIOT]

Still not sure how I feel about this

It's Bill Condon, who knows musicals like no other in live action. It will be phenomenal.

 

[truecoat]

It's just empty rhetoric. If people want to get excited about it, that is their choice.

If it was anyone else I'd be right in line with you.

 

[tirian]

Since we're talking about Disney's overall business model, not just the hit movies, I'll throw this out here too: the latest TV ratings are in, and only the CW ranked lower than ABC during the Sweeps. Overall, ABC is also the lowest of the big three networks.

Maybe it doesn't matter because the film division makes so much $$$, but the ratings do support the idea that the company might be better off focusing on what it does best (movies and theme parks) and shedding what weighs it down.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/tv-season-network-rankings-2015-2016-super-bowl-cbs-1201760649/

 

[flynnibus]

Difference is, the CEO of Six Flags understands that his business is different, and so he doesn't make comments like Wang made. I would be totally fine if Disney and Wanda peacefully coexist. The problem is that Mr. Wang, as made evident through his words, doesn't seem totally fine with that.

Did you follow any of the competition talk with regard to HKDL? This is more of the same...The locals don't think Disney was targeting the demos correctly and think 'their' product is more in tune with the locals.

 

[ProfSavage]

There are still Carmikes?! My first job was a protectionist at one. At the time, they were buying up small regional and independent theaters left-and-right to become the #1 US chain in terms of screens. Then Regal started their expansion, Carmike closed a bunch of locations (including all of them in my area) and I never heard of them again until just now.

Carmikes all over Gerogia still

 

[ProfSavage]

I love it! Don't mean to get political here, but who can disagree with Bernie on this one? I commend him for not just vaguely speaking on the issue, but really pointing a finger at Disney and Bob Iger.

I think he points at all corporations that way, though. It's part of his socialist schtick.

 

[Cesar R M]

^This. The low CM pay isn't hurting my paycheck or livelihood, so it is none of my concern anyway.

Be careful what you wish for.
Remember the famous saying.. "First they came from XXXX group, but I didnt care.. then they came for the XXXX other group, I didnt care either, then they came for me.. and there was noone to help me fight back"
So, its all nice and dandy bashing "low cm paid" employees until you get kicked out of your above average job and get replaced by a chinese/indian who will work the same (if not more) for half less. Prices will remain high to keep the "higher ups" happy and thus the "newer" generation of low paid employees wont even be able to pay basic needs.
Thats how you bankrupt and destroy a country.

After all, its not like it will affect the rich. They can just move their fortunes elsewhere and set themselves in a nice banana paradise.

 

[Cesar R M]

Wanda will be fine: both companies are aimed at Different segments of the market.

SDL will be fine. The only bright side (if you can call it that) of getting into bed with the CCP is they will make sure it doesn't fail....

'til the CCP doesnt need Disney anymore. right?

Uh oh. Hopefully we can resurrect him three years later. This project is on a Disney-like timeline.

Freezing oneself (like Cartman for the Wii) seems a viable option.

if that fails, we can still get him to a spinning machine. So everytime Disney or Universal fumble badly.. he can spin up and give a decent power output compared to Walt's frozen spinning body!