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A Spirited Dirty Dozen ...
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Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Change the country to what?
MerlinTheGoat
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Of course it's a more widespread problem of greed that isn't exclusive to Disney (though they are absolutely what I would consider one of the worst offenders of capitalism gone horribly wrong). But the context of this topic (and forum) is about Disney. And as it stands there are those presenting a falsified revised version of the company's history. One where they claim Disney has ALWAYS paid their cast at such a disproportionate horrible level compared to the execs, and one where the parks were always priced at such high point that only the richest people were allowed in. It simply isn't true.
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PhotoDave219
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There was a political candidate's rally in LA earlier. Likely spillover from that.
No matter whom you support, that form of protest is unacceptable.
thehowiet
Wilson King of Prussia
Last year Disney only had the third highest CEO to median worker pay ratio at 283:1. And as far as his fiduciary duty to the shareholders goes, obviously the minimum compensation necessary for him to be effective is in the $40 million range. Anything less and he just wouldn't be able to swing it. You tell em' Bobby!
180º
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Yes, that is why. It's a mess. Helicopters, law enforcement all out and of course operations within the park are scrambling.
Agreed.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Did it ever spill into the parks? Or just very close?
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
Unsure. A candidate drew a major protest as they spoke at the OCCC in Anaheim.
Eight arrested, story here. Nothing mentioned about Disney.
Disney Analyst
Well-Known Member
Lord if I know... but I do know we as humans have to eventually figure out a better way. Capitalism sucks.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Dont really want to get into an economic debate. But don't get capitalism confused with crony capitalism. They are not the same.
Disney Analyst
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Not the best, but a full video of the new night time spectacle at Shanghai Disneyland
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
I know it's shocking but, as reported in the LA Times, some are disappointed with Disney's prices at SDL:
Food prices at Shanghai Disneyland give early visitors heartburn
Yingzhi Yang and Nicole Liu
Shanghai Disneyland won't swing wide its gates to the general public until June 16, but pre-opening visitors to Walt Disney Co.'s first theme park in mainland China already have found something to complain about amid operational tests for a dazzling array of attractions: the prices, particularly for food sold in the park.
“Food in Shanghai Disney is really not cheap,” groused Cao Xinting, a 24-year-old Shanghai resident who participated in a test run on May 7, joining about 1 million visitors from all over China who are getting an early look at the park.
It’s not that Cao is strapped for cash. She works for a state-owned enterprise and her annual salary is around $15,300 — nearly double China’s gross domestic product per capita, which reached $8,000 in 2015. But Cao said she was disappointed with a latte that cost around $5.
“It costs as much as the coffee in Starbucks, but it tasted far worse than that in Starbucks,” Cao said. “I’m fine with the pricing system of Starbucks. But for the coffee in Disneyland, it’s just not worth the price.”
On Weibo, China’s answer to Twitter, a topic titled “Shanghai Disney is too expensive” received 9 million clicks and more than 9,000 comments in early May. An article headlined “The first group of Shanghai Disneyland visitors have wept to the point of fainting inside the park, because it’s too expensive” went viral on WeChat, a Chinese messaging platform.
The article said the Shanghai soup dumplings, or xiaolongbao, were priced about $1 each in the park, which many visitors believed was too expensive. In Shanghai, xiaolongbao typically sell for about 15 cents apiece. The article also showed a receipt for a hamburger with fries and Pepsi bought at the park for about $11.50. An equivalent meal at McDonald’s costs about $5.80 in China.
Admission to the Shanghai park starts at $57 for adults, but can reach $76 during peak periods. At a news conference in Shanghai on Thursday, Shanghai Disney Resort spokesman Murray King said that tickets are the cheapest among all Disney parks around the world and affordable for middle-class Chinese consumers.
Asked about complaints regarding food and drink prices, he said that Disney had included a range of restaurant types in the park, and noted that guests can bring "commercially packaged" meals with them.
Earlier, Fan Xiping, chief executive of Shanghai Shendi Group, which owns 57% of the Shanghai Disney resort, told the Paper, a state-run outlet, that “the test run is to listen to customers’ complaints and correct our mistakes. At the same time, it is also trying to lower public expectations.”
Yang Tianjiao, a graduate student at the Shanghai East China University of Science and Technology, said she heard about the high prices of food at Disneyland, so she brought boxed food to eat inside the park.
“I saw my friend eating lunch served by Disneyland — and a plate of rice with pork chops cost her 90 yuan” or around $14, Yang said. Her almost-identical boxed food was only about $5.
"When we dine out, 100 yuan [around $15] per person is acceptable, but the problem is that with the same amount of money, you can’t have the same good food in Shanghai Disneyland,” Yang said.
Some Web commentators denounced the grumbling about price, arguing that if you can’t afford Disney, why go there? Still, according to a survey conducted by the Shanghai Consumer Council, the less one earns, the more one is fond of Disneyland.
In the survey, more than 86% of the people whose annual income is between $7,660 and $10,700 expressed interest in the park, whereas 78% of people who earn over $15,300 a year showed fondness for Disneyland.
“The result is interesting, and beyond my expectations,” Yang Xiong, director of the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, said at a news conference Monday.
“People with lower income regard going to Shanghai Disneyland as a dream, so they will seize the opportunity to go the fairy-tale- and American-styled theme park at their doorstep. But for the rich, if they want to go to Disneyland, they can always go to California, Tokyo or Paris,” Hu Xingdou, professor of economics and China issues at the Beijing Institute of Technology, said in an interview.
“Disneyland is a symbol of luxury and creativity, a symbol of American culture, which is what the poorer die for,” Hu said.
The survey found strong brand awareness of Disney among Chinese consumers — more than 90% of Shanghai residents and 80% of non-locals were aware that the park will open in June. The survey included 1,880 locals and 3,500 out-of-towners.
More than 960,000 visitors have tried out Shanghai Disney so far during the test period, according to Liu Zhengyi, deputy director of the Shanghai International Tourism and Resorts Zone. King, the Disney spokesman, said more than 90,000 people visited the park on May 1, a holiday in China.
The price complaints aren't going to keep Shanghai resident Shen Fenping, 45, from visiting the Disney park in August with her husband and son.
“I heard this park isn’t only for little kids, adults can have fun too, so I’m curious to visit,” Shen said. “Not only me, some of my colleagues at my age are also going with their husbands and children.”
Yingzhi Yang and Nicole Liu
Shanghai Disneyland won't swing wide its gates to the general public until June 16, but pre-opening visitors to Walt Disney Co.'s first theme park in mainland China already have found something to complain about amid operational tests for a dazzling array of attractions: the prices, particularly for food sold in the park.
“Food in Shanghai Disney is really not cheap,” groused Cao Xinting, a 24-year-old Shanghai resident who participated in a test run on May 7, joining about 1 million visitors from all over China who are getting an early look at the park.
It’s not that Cao is strapped for cash. She works for a state-owned enterprise and her annual salary is around $15,300 — nearly double China’s gross domestic product per capita, which reached $8,000 in 2015. But Cao said she was disappointed with a latte that cost around $5.
“It costs as much as the coffee in Starbucks, but it tasted far worse than that in Starbucks,” Cao said. “I’m fine with the pricing system of Starbucks. But for the coffee in Disneyland, it’s just not worth the price.”
On Weibo, China’s answer to Twitter, a topic titled “Shanghai Disney is too expensive” received 9 million clicks and more than 9,000 comments in early May. An article headlined “The first group of Shanghai Disneyland visitors have wept to the point of fainting inside the park, because it’s too expensive” went viral on WeChat, a Chinese messaging platform.
The article said the Shanghai soup dumplings, or xiaolongbao, were priced about $1 each in the park, which many visitors believed was too expensive. In Shanghai, xiaolongbao typically sell for about 15 cents apiece. The article also showed a receipt for a hamburger with fries and Pepsi bought at the park for about $11.50. An equivalent meal at McDonald’s costs about $5.80 in China.
Admission to the Shanghai park starts at $57 for adults, but can reach $76 during peak periods. At a news conference in Shanghai on Thursday, Shanghai Disney Resort spokesman Murray King said that tickets are the cheapest among all Disney parks around the world and affordable for middle-class Chinese consumers.
Asked about complaints regarding food and drink prices, he said that Disney had included a range of restaurant types in the park, and noted that guests can bring "commercially packaged" meals with them.
Earlier, Fan Xiping, chief executive of Shanghai Shendi Group, which owns 57% of the Shanghai Disney resort, told the Paper, a state-run outlet, that “the test run is to listen to customers’ complaints and correct our mistakes. At the same time, it is also trying to lower public expectations.”
Yang Tianjiao, a graduate student at the Shanghai East China University of Science and Technology, said she heard about the high prices of food at Disneyland, so she brought boxed food to eat inside the park.
“I saw my friend eating lunch served by Disneyland — and a plate of rice with pork chops cost her 90 yuan” or around $14, Yang said. Her almost-identical boxed food was only about $5.
"When we dine out, 100 yuan [around $15] per person is acceptable, but the problem is that with the same amount of money, you can’t have the same good food in Shanghai Disneyland,” Yang said.
Some Web commentators denounced the grumbling about price, arguing that if you can’t afford Disney, why go there? Still, according to a survey conducted by the Shanghai Consumer Council, the less one earns, the more one is fond of Disneyland.
In the survey, more than 86% of the people whose annual income is between $7,660 and $10,700 expressed interest in the park, whereas 78% of people who earn over $15,300 a year showed fondness for Disneyland.
“The result is interesting, and beyond my expectations,” Yang Xiong, director of the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, said at a news conference Monday.
“People with lower income regard going to Shanghai Disneyland as a dream, so they will seize the opportunity to go the fairy-tale- and American-styled theme park at their doorstep. But for the rich, if they want to go to Disneyland, they can always go to California, Tokyo or Paris,” Hu Xingdou, professor of economics and China issues at the Beijing Institute of Technology, said in an interview.
“Disneyland is a symbol of luxury and creativity, a symbol of American culture, which is what the poorer die for,” Hu said.
The survey found strong brand awareness of Disney among Chinese consumers — more than 90% of Shanghai residents and 80% of non-locals were aware that the park will open in June. The survey included 1,880 locals and 3,500 out-of-towners.
More than 960,000 visitors have tried out Shanghai Disney so far during the test period, according to Liu Zhengyi, deputy director of the Shanghai International Tourism and Resorts Zone. King, the Disney spokesman, said more than 90,000 people visited the park on May 1, a holiday in China.
The price complaints aren't going to keep Shanghai resident Shen Fenping, 45, from visiting the Disney park in August with her husband and son.
“I heard this park isn’t only for little kids, adults can have fun too, so I’m curious to visit,” Shen said. “Not only me, some of my colleagues at my age are also going with their husbands and children.”
NearTheEars
Well-Known Member
Does any business just create jobs out of generosity?
(Please don't see this as one of those Disney is a business posts)
Stitchon
Well-Known Member
The point of my post is Bob's attitude. He's acting as if he personally created those jobs out of the goodness of his heart, as if we should bow down to him for being benevolent enough to make them.
Actually he said "we" not "I".
Not every job that is incubated, hatched, and let out into the world is intended to provide a living wage.
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
Bob is a CEO. He needs to stay out of the political debate and certainly stay off social media. Very unprofessional.
PREMiERdrum
Well-Known Member
I kept the CBS and CNN live channels routed up to our big monitors here in the newsroom most of the evening.. beautiful shots of Disneyland and CA!
FigmentForver96
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I felt like during testing there was way more pyro. I mean I wouldnt be shocked if that was it but I felt like there was going to be more.