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[truecoat]

Where would security be for folks walking in from Harbor (e.g. from one of the hotels along that street)?

Those hotels will no longer have across the street access. You'll either walk about a mile or take a shuttle.

 

[michmousefan]

It's so close, why would people need moving walkways or a tram? Freaking walk people.

That's just it.... it's *not* that close. I've said this before, but a moving sidewalk would be a welcome little touch for guests – many of whom will be pushing a stroller – after the end of a long day slogging through the parks. Works pretty well at Universal Orlando... just seems like Disney is cutting costs wherever they can and selecting the cheaper option.

 

[BernardandBianca]

That's just it.... it's *not* that close. I've said this before, but a moving sidewalk would be a welcome little touch for guests – many of whom will be pushing a stroller – after the end of a long day slogging through the parks. Works pretty well at Universal Orlando... just seems like Disney is cutting costs wherever they can and selecting the cheaper option.

According to Google Maps, from the entrance to DL to where the parking garage is planned is approximately 2,500 feet, or slightly less than 1/2 mile. Whether that is "close" or not is a matter of opinion.

 

[Mike S]

Those hotels will no longer have across the street access. You'll either walk about a mile or take a shuttle.

Wait, will this affect me next July?

I'm staying at the hotel right across from the entrance...

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Wait, will this affect me next July?

I'm staying at the hotel right across from the entrance...

Probably not, this won't be competed until late 2018. The sky bridge and security complex will likely be the last completed elements of the project.

 

[ChrisM]

A movie about the U.S.S. Indianapolis came out in May. I am curious to see it.

A fantastic book: https://www.amazon.com/Harms-Way-Indianapolis-Extraordinary-Survivors/dp/0805073663

 

[Mike S]

Probably not, this won't be competed until late 2018. The sky bridge and security complex will likely be the last completed elements of the project.

Good. That extremely short and convenient walk is exactly why we switched from our original booking.

 

[Cesar R M]

Yup.
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...-limited-time-last-chance-to-paint-the-night/
So does this mean MK will have no night parade if we're not getting PTN? That blows.

COST CUTS.. BUYBACKS! BONUSES!!! SCREW THE CUSTOMERS.. BUT DISNEY IS A BUSINESS!!!..etc..etc.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I understand the sentiment. The walk around the parks is pretty hefty, though (depending on how long you stay). I wouldn't suggest taking away the trams, and I wouldn't suggest offering moving walkways.

I honestly would never take away the trams. Resort property transit is important... I just think the argument that it is being cheap they aren't installing moving walkways or a tram is flawed.

 

[ford91exploder]

Except that company is not the conglomerate of today.

That's for sure it was also a time when WDP actually cared about delivering value for money,

 

[ford91exploder]

COST CUTS.. BUYBACKS! BONUSES!!! SCREW THE CUSTOMERS.. BUT DISNEY IS A BUSINESS!!!..etc..etc.

WDW just got cheaper to operate at night Woo Hoo bonuses for the TDO senior leadership, Hours cut for front line CM's yeah seems fair.

 

[COProgressFan]

Those hotels will no longer have across the street access. You'll either walk about a mile or take a shuttle.

Is this confirmed, or are you just going by the plans you see? I don't see an entrance on the drawing either, but if they are completely cutting off all access from Harbor Blvd., that would mean routing thousands of guests staying on Harbor completely out of their way and then back on a circuitous route. As well as limiting access to restaurants, shops, etc.

I would imagine there would be quite an outcry from both guests and business owners on this

 

[asianway]

Is this confirmed, or are you just going by the plans you see? I don't see an entrance on the drawing either, but if they are completely cutting off all access from Harbor Blvd., that would mean routing thousands of guests staying on Harbor completely out of their way and then back on a circuitous route. As well as limiting access to restaurants, shops, etc.

I would imagine there would be quite an outcry from both guests and business owners on this

My response would be - so? While I am firmly rooted in the doom and gloom column, this would make smart business sense. Smoke them out and then acquire the properties cheap. I mean, if DLR could take over that whole city block, I think it would be ideal for the fans. Capn Kidds Buffet? Really? No big loss.

 

[truecoat]

Here's how the monorail will be routed along with the Marvel expansion.

 

[ford91exploder]

Here's how the monorail will be routed along with the Marvel expansion.

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How is it that Monorail re-routes/expansions are feasable in a URBAN environment, Yet TOO EXPENSIVE in the swamps where Disney has TOTAL CONTROL, Think on that one kiddies

 

[BernardandBianca]

How is it that Monorail re-routes/expansions are feasable in a URBAN environment, Yet TOO EXPENSIVE in the swamps where Disney has TOTAL CONTROL, Think on that one kiddies

Distances. Soil. The fact that Disney already owns all of the land involved in both locales.

 

[ford91exploder]

Distances. Soil. The fact that Disney already owns all of the land involved in both locales.

If you have done any facilities construction in CA there are dozens of state and local boards which must sign off before the first grain of sand is disturbed not to mention the 6-7 figure permitting fees Not like in FL where RCID and the state of FL do what Disney tells them to.

 

[asianway]

How is it that Monorail re-routes/expansions are feasable in a URBAN environment, Yet TOO EXPENSIVE in the swamps where Disney has TOTAL CONTROL, Think on that one kiddies

Also possible on a landfill reclaimed from Tokyo Bay

 

[zengoth]

How is it that Monorail re-routes/expansions are feasable in a URBAN environment, Yet TOO EXPENSIVE in the swamps where Disney has TOTAL CONTROL, Think on that one kiddies

All these years, I thought I was buying a Parking Lot Hopper ticket option.

 

[FigmentJedi]

Here's how the monorail will be routed along with the Marvel expansion.

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Still really dumb that Guardians of the Galaxy isn't even in the Marvelland plot that is the expanded backlot. Unless they decide to replace the Frozen musical in the Hyperion with a Captain America USO show to make it all fit.