Princess Leia
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Guardians 1 is on FX (the movie came out 4 years ago, so it’s not the oldest of the bunch).
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Rodan75
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I would love to see the whole rights piece there. I think this story may be a bit overblown. We know that the Star Wars movies have a streaming window that replaces the premium cable window with Netflix. So it isn't as if Turner got exclusive distribution rights, it looks like just Basic Cable broadcast rights (although Bloomberg mentions streaming, they gloss over it and I've never seen those movies on the TBS/TNT streaming apps). Basic Cable broadcast rights are normally 3rd/4th tier after Pay Per View/VoD, Premium Cable (Netflix in this case), Broadcast, Basic Cable.
I suspect that Disney still has the rights to put the films on their streaming service, they just wouldn't be exclusive. And that Disney doesn't want customers to be able to watch them for free in any way moving forward.
Rodan75
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It is funny when folks say 'old Marvel movies', it is easy to forget that none of them are more than 10 years old. They've just produced so many that it seems like we have decades worth.
geekza
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Yeah, it's like a return to the Golden Age Studio Era when the studios were essentially factories that churned out movies using the same stars, directors, crews, etc. The difference is that now, even the "smaller" films cost millions. The Marvel movies have had their ups and downs, but it's still impressive that, overall, they've been pretty solid.
I reminded my kids that we had to wait three years to see if Darth Vader was really Luke's father and if they would rescue Han Solo. They looked at me like I was an alien. lol
Princess Leia
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I just looked, and GotG is 10/20, so truly right in the middle (for now).
In case anyone is curious about the franchises and where they fall in the placement of things, you’re welcome:
Iron Man- 1/3/7
Thor- 4/8/17
Captain America- 5/9/13
Avengers- 6/11/19/22
Guardians- 10/15/24?
Spider-Man- 16/23/?
What do these numbers represent?
Pi on my Cake
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Fair enough. I always forget that was a theatrical release and not just a tv movie lol. Still, a lot of their big name directors come from either sitcoms, tv shows, or low budget films. Not many people handling their big films had much if any experience with big scale movies before Marvel. But you're right that some were more experienced than I realized.
Gunn was probably the most experienced director in big movies they have in their inner circle now that I think about it. The Scooby Doo movies may not be cinematic masterpieces but he had experience with effects heavy family action comedy adaptation franchises before GotG.
Princess Leia
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Where they fall in the placement of things (Iron Man had the first, third, and seventh movies in the series, Thor the fourth, eighth, seventeenth, etc).
The franchise is only ten years old, but some of these series are firmly in the first, second, and third of the series so far.
britain
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AEfx
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None of it was personal attacks? Huh? He certainly talked about "attacking" Justin Bieber and raping women. You guys really need to stop dismissing this stuff. You can say he apologized, you can say it is old, but it looks really bad when you try to downplay what he did say. I'd rather he said "so and so is ugly or stupid" or that type of thing instead of the truly vile stuff he did. Trust me, this "oh it wasn't so bad!" stuff is going to bite you guys in the behind in the future.
It's not that I "feel more strongly" about them - I just don't think we should be glossing over what they were. I didn't say they were criminal, either. I have said since the very beginning I was not happy he was fired over this. But I also think people are being a bit selective by trying to make it out like they were just a few innocent jokes.
I mean, he was writing "joke" posts about having sex with Justin Bieber...when Bieber was only 16. Would we be quite so quick to dismiss them if these "resurfaced" sex jokes were instead about raping Daktoa Fanning, and he was conservative? I don't think so. We all know it would be totally different.
And while it seems people want to pretend they were just pedophile "jokes", because somehow that means it is a "conspiracy" or whatever, they are also ignoring the female rape "jokes" - which make it more 'real'. Let's also not forget about the SHEER VOLUME of material we are talking about.
Just to say they were jokes that "were not to some people's taste" is totally whitewashing them. These were sick, terrible things that even ten years ago it wasn't right to say. It wasn't just some momentary lack of judgement. I don't care if others were doing it, or that some people thought it was cool and edgy - these types of statements were never okay.
I hate to have to point all this out, but when you guys systematically ignore the facts and keep trying to make it out like he is some 100% victim who did nothing whatsoever wrong to begin with, that this is all just a-OK behavior, but these darn conservative crazies are just going after him out of thin air, I can't help but do a reality check as to what it really is we are talking about.
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doctornick
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I'm talking about the Star Wars films, not Marvel (wasn't that what the article was about?). Fox owns the distribution rights to the first two trilogies and would have been the ones who licensed to Turner for those 6 films. Obviously the rights will go to Disney once the purchase of Fox is completed.
AEfx
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One does not call "Buffy, The Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" something like "only TV"!!!!
Yeah, I really, really don't think the talent pool for directors is gong to be tainted over this. I'm sure there are plenty of very capable if not brilliant folks out there who, you know, didn't do crap like this to begin with to have "resurface" later.
asianway
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I still don’t see where he apologized for anything but the jokes that offended the gay community
Pixieish
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I can't find it at the moment, but he did an interview in 2016 or 2017 in which he spoke about his Twitter behavior and he referred to himself as having been "a bad guy" in regards to the tweets in question.
EDIT: And there wasn't even any controversy going on at the time of the interview. He was talking about how much making the GotG films had helped him to grow as a person.
flynnibus
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You just want to get paid for what u would have worked
plus avoid the blackmark of being labeled as wrong etc
Pi on my Cake
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Buffy and Angel are fantastic groundbreaking shows! But thats still a different beast than blockbusters with big name celebrities. The same way water parks can be amazing and groundbreaking but they are an inherently different experience than theme parks. And no one would call a water park a theme park! That would be silly! Right, Universal?One does not call "Buffy, The Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" something like "only TV"!!!!
Yeah, I really, really don't think the talent pool for directors is gong to be tainted over this. I'm sure there are plenty of very capable if not brilliant folks out there who, you know, didn't do crap like this to begin with to have "resurface" later.
the.dreamfinder
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flynnibus
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It was incredibly sketchy... and why he had to settle. He shiponed resources directly from the company (without restitution) to his business. The whole licensing of his image and the scale of it were a complete snowball job as well. It was underhanded and would never fly by any ethics standard today. And even then, it wouldnt stand and why ultimatley the companies buried the problem and paid out to wrap it all up.
There is nothing to defend here except his end product
Pi on my Cake
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I'm not saying they aren't well themed. But the experience of a theme park is inherently different than that of a water park. Even well themed water parks like the Disney ones and, imo at least, volcano Bay.