Sped2424
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Critics yes but people are acting like it's the new Chicago.
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NearTheEars
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Loved the soundtrack and the film. It’s just fun.
But it’s definitely not a cinematic masterpiece.
Was really glad to see it pick up steam and it’s still going pretty strong.
NearTheEars
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That’s going too far. Oddly enough DW and I just saw the Chicago tour at the Lakeland Center last week.
I do think they will make a go of it on Broadway at some point, though.
Rteetz
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Its a niche film I find. The people who like it love it. Many have gone multiple times and are listening to the songs over and over. Its not a major blockbuster and I personally don't feel it is being treated as such.
No Name
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The Greatest Showman is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. Although perhaps seeing TLJ beforehand lowered my standards.
It's ironic how the real critics can't get over the exact same thing as the critic in the movie. The movie is not even remotely accurate, but it accomplished what it aimed to do.... put smiles on people's faces. It's not a documentary on PT Barnum and never aimed to be, instead it's the kind of performance Barnum himself would deliver. Why critics can't understand this and accept it is baffling. If you remove that one complaint, a good 90+% of the reviews would be positive.
It's ironic how the real critics can't get over the exact same thing as the critic in the movie. The movie is not even remotely accurate, but it accomplished what it aimed to do.... put smiles on people's faces. It's not a documentary on PT Barnum and never aimed to be, instead it's the kind of performance Barnum himself would deliver. Why critics can't understand this and accept it is baffling. If you remove that one complaint, a good 90+% of the reviews would be positive.
HauntedMansionFLA
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You got Tim Burton’s Dumbo coming out that I’m looking forward too. I wonder how the black crows will sound like?
Princess Leia
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It’s nominated for the wrong song (again). I personally thought it was one of the weakest songs in the movie.
Princess Leia
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I saw it with a friend a couple weeks ago. She loved it, I... didn’t. I liked 3 songs in the movie, and wasn’t crazy about how perfect Barnum appeared. I really wanted to see him try to create a ‘mermaid’. Like a lot of docudramas, the story made up a lot of fictions (fitting for Barnum), but a lot of the film felt like a first or second draft to me, not a final product.
WDWTank
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MadamMansion
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Catching up on this crazy thread and feel compelled to respond to a weeks old comment...
DH and I spent Dec 30-Jan 4 at WDW. Party of two adults, no kids. It was our first time doing NYE at WDW, and I would call it a cross between a lot of fun and the worst idea of all time. Mostly fun, for sure, but we knew what we were getting ourselves into. Had we not been prepared, we would have had a bad time.
I absolutely loved Fantasy in the Sky at MK (which we saw on 12/30, so we could go to Epcot for NYE), and would honestly book another NYE trip for those alone. But I love fireworks a stupid amount (and cry every. single. time.), so YMMV somewhat. Illuminations with the NYE tag was also very very impressive, but didn't quite take my breath away like Fantasy in the Sky.
As for why it's also kind of the worst idea of all time: The crowds were NO JOKE.
Some tips if you do go: Travel light in the parks; the ability to use "no bag" lines saved us a lot of time/headache. Be prepared with a solid touring plan. Or, don't worry too much about attractions and just take in the atmosphere (that was our strategy, but we're non-local passholders). Book table service lunches to escape the madness and get off your feet (protip: book restaurants that serve a la carte entrees and share; DH and I find that splitting one TS entree and one app or dessert is plenty of food, and costs about the same as 2 QS entrees). If your budget allows, this is a time of year when we find staying onsite to be super valuable. We did a split stay to stretch our $$ - Yacht Club 12/30-1/1 and Pop 1/1-1/4. Just being able to walk back from Epcot on NYE was a priceless experience for me. We also altered our sleep schedules to both take advantage of the long park hours and avoid crowds as much as possible. Each day we rope dropped, did a TS lunch, and then back to the room for a 2-3 hour nap. We'd head back to the parks around dinner time, stay out until 2 or 3 am (with EMH), sleep for a couple of hours, repeat. I realize this won't be practical for all, but we found ourselves marveling at relatively empty parks at 8am or 1am (compared to the crush of 3pm), so it was very worth it to us.
Another thing to be aware of is that the whole atmosphere of the parks feels different. There's random entertainment scattered about, and in the MK that entertainment basically ignores thematic integrity (think: loads of dance parties and DJs). Epcot does a better job with enhancing the theme via the added entertainment. We left AK and HS for post-NYE, so can't comment there. I enjoy experiencing the parks in different ways, so the temporary erosion of theme at MK didn't bother me too much, but DH was often quite irritated. (Ahem, the long-term, sustained erosion of theme at WDW is something we both find upsetting, but outside the scope of this post.)
Bottom line: I would absolutely do NYE at WDW again, but probably not with a group larger than just DH and myself.
I would apologize for the thread derail, but I think that ship sailed a long, long time ago to a galaxy far, far away.
Bairstow
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Mojo Nixon?!
WDWTank
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Cesar R M
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We are all masochists.
Cesar R M
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There are villains that are portrayed so evil, pompous and hateful that you just LOVE to hate.
The fishstick's movie's villain is a fine example. Another one is Oscar Issaac's character on The Patriot.
Cesar R M
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Dammit, everytime I want to forget this monstrosity.. it keeps coming back.
Princess Leia
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I think you meant Jason Isaacs
brb1006
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Princess Leia
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Okay, I’ve watched 2/9 best picture nominees now, Get Out and The Shape of Water.
Incredibly different films lol. I liked Get Out, but it’s not going to be win Best Picture against The Shape of Water (maybe screenplay, but I’m not holding my breath there).
The Shape of Water is absolutely lovely, a work of art. It’s gorgeous to look at. Octavia Spencer has given the best performance of her life. I think this could be Del Toro’s win for Best Director. It absolutely needs to get Best Productions Design.
Incredibly different films lol. I liked Get Out, but it’s not going to be win Best Picture against The Shape of Water (maybe screenplay, but I’m not holding my breath there).
The Shape of Water is absolutely lovely, a work of art. It’s gorgeous to look at. Octavia Spencer has given the best performance of her life. I think this could be Del Toro’s win for Best Director. It absolutely needs to get Best Productions Design.
Quinnmac000
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You have to look at it another way. Oscars tend to be political more so than just on the merit of how great film is. Shape of Water while visually beautiful etc for me lacked a depth compared to Call Me By Your Name (on your list as well) which is based on the same topic just told between two humans instead of human and a fish person. Whereas, Get Out hit a major political point coming out during a time of perceived increased racial unrest etc as well as pointed out prejudice even if positive is still prejudice.