WDWTank
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That's why Disney should turn Alien Encounter and X-S Tech into an IP!
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FigmentJedi
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Disney's just as guilty. I mean, the only live-action Walt-era film that Disney marketing people seem to remember is Mary Poppins.
And of course on the animation side of things, the only Walt classics Disney Consumer Products seems to acknowledge are the "Disney Vault" ones. Anything outside that group gets barebones or shoddy releases like that Sword in the Stone Blu that looks like it got ran through a bad Photoshop filter. And even within that Vault group, it's primarily the Princess films that get the most visibility. And of course, it's often said that Disney's attempts at going into sci-fi action animated films in the early 2000s with Atlantis and Treasure Planet were crippled by how they weren't perceived as being Disney enough because they weren't fairy tale musicals.
Merchandising may pay the bills, but Disney Consumer Products is the worst enemy the Disney legacy has ever had.
Disneyhead'71
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Are you daft? You think Johnny Tremain is a big influencer of today's 6 year old boys? The newest of the movies you mentioned was 1969. At that point Nintendo was a trading card company. Now you are sounding like a pixie dust addled fangirl. "But, but...but 50 years ago, Disney..." while ignoring the current reality of 1/3 of all the Wal-Marts being dedicated to Disney Princesses. In the modern era when people think "Disney". This is what they think.
And that is not the general public fault. It's 20 years of super saturation market penetration.
Oh, I have a great idea how to do it! Imagine this... take the horror genre and set it in space! Have a bunch of humans far out and cut off from any help encounter an alien... who uses them to gestate their young!!!
Are you daft? You think Johnny Tremain is a big influencer of today's 6 year old boys? The newest of the movies you mentioned was 1969. At that point Nintendo was a trading card company. Now you are sounding like a pixie dust addled fangirl. "But, but...but 50 years ago, Disney..." while ignoring the current reality of 1/3 of all the Wal-Marts being dedicated to Disney Princesses. In the modern era when people think "Disney". This is what they think.
And that is not the general public fault. It's 20 years of super saturation market penetration.
But... but... pirates! Will no one think about the pirates!
Animaniac93-98
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Never said that. Not sure why you think I did?
I'm just tired of anything Disney made prior to Little Mermaid (movies, tv shows, theme park content) being swept under the rug for whatever reason. No, I don't expect every fan to see every movie, but you would think with so much Disney history information available online that people would at least bother to read about it.
WDWTank
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I like that, love that a lot!
Disneyhead'71
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I may be a titch confused about "Pirates". I was under the impression that they WEREN'T good role models.
C'mon, would Walt build an attraction lionizing bad role models? Pffft.
MerlinTheGoat
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They aren't, but modern Disney are certainly trying to rewrite history to make it seem otherwise-
Animaniac93-98
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bclane
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Holy cow you must be some kind of an evil genius! The only thing I would add to your idea is that they should give the bad guys acid blood. That would be terrifying in space! But what would they name this movie about aliens? hmmmmm, I got nothin.
MerlinTheGoat
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Honestly, the original ride was in no way making the pirates into role models. It presents them as the villains of the ride, and even makes it quite clear that they are cursed and that such behavior is despicable. It also leads to their undoing.
It was the changes done with Jack Sparrow that changed this. The original ride had all the pirates as villains, even if it was done so in a silly manner. They were never role models.
Disneyhead'71
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In April. I went on a Rum Cruise that sailed out of Tortola in the British Virgin Islands. 6 days on a 3 masted sailing ship. There were 16 of us. Over the 6 days we drank 36 bottles of rum AND partied at some of the coolest Caribbean beach bars like The Soggy Dollar Bar and Willie T's.They aren't, but modern Disney are certainly trying to rewrite history to make it seem otherwise-
We pirated hard.
bclane
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I want a snowmobile race dark ride based on Disney's Snowball Express. It was one of my favorite movies as a kid (yes I know it wasn't that great of a movie but I still love it. Don't judge me). I think it could be a hilarious ride experience.
Disneyhead'71
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I still want a Herbie ride like Mr. Toads.
bclane
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Same. The original Love Bug movie was great!
I want an Academic Quiz Tournament attraction based on The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes.
bclane
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Nerd alert!
Pixieish
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And as the mom of an 11-year-old, I have to agree. In MK, it's princess overload, and there's no reason for it to be. My son likes the princess movies, but not in the "watch them over and over" way that he does other Disney movies, and most of the shows on Disney XD he couldn't care less about. He's juuuuuuust starting to get into GotG, and while it's pretty much killing my husband, he doesn't show any interest in SW outside of video games.
Big Hero 6...THAT was a fantastic movie!!! Great role models for both boys and girls, and had some real-life issues that were dealt with (death). Both my boys adore that movie...sadly one of only a few with multiple strong leads.
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