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FigmentJedi
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Max Landis talks about his rejected Space Mountain script here
It essentially sounds like he wanted to do a 50s sci-fi throwback take on Ghost Galaxy. Where hyperspace launches (which take place on coaster rails) end up having this side effect of people gradually losing their souls in transit and becoming monsters.
It essentially sounds like he wanted to do a 50s sci-fi throwback take on Ghost Galaxy. Where hyperspace launches (which take place on coaster rails) end up having this side effect of people gradually losing their souls in transit and becoming monsters.
PorterRedkey
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Unfortunately, CBS All-Access has had a spike in membership since the show premiered last night.
http://deadline.com/2017/09/star-trek-discovery-cbs-all-access-record-sign-ups-1202176110/
Other nefarious types, can simply download the show from any torrent site and they don't have to pay at all.
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PorterRedkey
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It is a link to the show we are talking about. I have no affiliation with CBS or CBS All Access.
I was simply trying to let people know where they could sign up for the free trial. If you think I have acted inappropriately you can report the post and WDWMagic can delete the link if they feel it is necessary. I am not selling anything, just trying to help people who would like to watch the 1st few episodes for free.
AEfx
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They made a massive, embarrassing error rolling this out the way they did.
First, it's a terrible time of year anyway - every other show is starting back up right now, and the last thing I need is another streaming service (that last I looked, the only thing interesting else on it that I didn't have or isn't elsewhere is the full run of "Family Ties" - and after watching a few I was all set with my trial).
Second, the manipulative and idiotic scheduling of it at :48 minutes past the hour.
Third, and most egregious, like the previous modern Trek series the premiere episode is double-length. For this, they artificially separated it into two distinct episodes - even though the "cliffhanger" is really a commercial break and it clearly wasn't scripted to be broken up like this.
You will see the problem immediately when you finish the second episode, if people seek it out. It ends and you are like, "WTH? This isn't what I thought..." - and in fact, what the series actually turns out to be about is way more interesting than what was shown on TV only.
But that was their fatal mistake - once you see the second episode, you see that everything that you seen on the CBS airing (the first half of the pilot) is completely nothing like actual rest of the series because it doesn't resolve and show you the twist. If you just watch the TV half, you are going to have absolutely no idea what the show is actually about, all you really get is the background exposition, and not even all of that - so it was terrible advertising because the "twist" of the show is what could make it interesting, and they didn't show it.
All that said...once they showed the "coming this season..." trailer at the end of the supposed "episode 2" (or once the premiere episode sets up what the show is actually about) - I laughed my absolute butt off. All of a sudden everything made perfect sense - the unnecessary super secrecy about what the show is actually about (imagine if Voyager had been promoted without knowing they were going to be out in the Delta Quadrant alone), the long delay that no one ever really explained, even though reportedly the show was actually ready on time.
It was so obvious why they delayed it from February - because the entire plot of what the show is actually about, after the pilot, is almost uncannily the same as a certain blockbuster film that was still in the theaters...it's basically
Rogue One
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bclane
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I was gonna skip The Orville (not really a MacFarlane fan)...but based on your recommendation, I watched the third episode. First, who knew how important Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer was when making sex reassignment decisions for alien children!? I mean, wow! Second, what the heck did I just watch? lol! Was that big budget Star Trek fan fiction? Was that supposed to be a comedy? It definitely felt like Star Trek at times, but in the end it's probably not for me. I think I would prefer the show if it could choose whether it was trying to be a Seth MacFarlane comedy or a more serious Star Trek like science fiction show. Right now it comes across to me as trying to ride the fence between the two but in doing so it just doesn't work for me. I'm sure it will have its fans though and more power to them. I'm glad I watched at least one episode though so thanks for posting.
Prince-1
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lentesta
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No. I expect news like this to land on Fridays. If it doesn’t happen this week, I may have been completely wrong.
nevol
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Have you been there? Have you been on the attractions?
dennis-in-ct
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Completely agreed.
I just had this conversation yesterday with someone. The third episode struck the perfect balance between traditional Star Trek story and the Seth McFarlane humor. After that episode - I was hooked
wannabeBelle
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::crossing my fingers:: Marie
bclane
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Ok I finally got to see the first hour of Star Trek Discovery. Well, truth be told, I'm not sure if I got to see the whole 1st hour as I DVRd it and it seemed to stop at a really odd time. So I'm wondering if my stupid cable company screwed something up or if that is how the first hour was supposed to end. Anyway, based on what I saw, I'm in. That was fricken fantastic for a pilot. It wasn't perfect, but i think they will tighten up the writing as it goes forward and the cast (who already seem pretty comfortable) will only get better as they work themselves into their roles. I loved the design and the production value and I even started to appreciate the new look of the Klingons (which surprised me as I hated it from the previews). I thought the hologram thing was kinda silly and a there were a few other weird choices, but overall, I think we have a winner here! Good times are here again for Trekkies and Trekkers alike. I'm gonna hold off on watching the 2nd hour until my older daughter gets back from a school trip in a few days and then I'm gonna watch them both with her. She is gonna LOVE this. 
AEfx
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It was them, not your cable company. It was scheduled at 8:48EST and ran about an hour.
I'll be curious what you think once you actually see the full pilot. They only showed half of it on CBS. It's a very, very different show than you would think from only seeing the first half.
AEfx
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Well of course they did, LOL. It hasn't had any significant content before. Remember, the service was originally supposed to launch with this show as it's headliner. That's why it gets one and two star reviews on most platforms it's available on. There isn't very much content at all on CBS Now, let alone anything mainstream compelling ("Family Ties" isn't going to cut it).
That said, first - they had a spike of people sign up for the trial. It's how many they retain that matters. Second, it had been some massive number, they would have cited that number. They said it was a big spike compared to their previous high for sign-ups - which was for...the Grammy's this year. So the bar was set rather low, LOL.
Ironically, the half-premiere that they did show on TV actually got nice ratings. Not spectacular, but not shabby, either, especially once the DVR numbers get factored in. If they hadn't tied this into a stupid streaming service with no other significant content that isn't available elsewhere (even the rest of the Trek series are on Netflix), and just done a normal fricking TV show or teamed up with Netflix, they might just have had a minor hit on their hands.
They are banking the entire future of this service on one show with ten episodes, with two already down. It's a remarkable folly.
Are you just trolling or do you have an opinion to express?
I'm a lifelong Star Trek fan, I grew up with TNG and the films, I love even Voyager (in many ways my favorite of them all), and I really love the new films, as well. I have been waiting for years for Trek to come back to TV. I'm just really afraid all the stupid mistakes Paramount/CBS has made with this show are going to tell them that they were right to give up on TV and just concentrate on films. There is room for both, but watching how this was bungled will undoubtedly be written off as the public's fault, not theirs for the executive decisions made.
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Boy am i glad it is avail on Netflix here in the UK, a whole host of my US friends came to me confused about the show as they saw the first part and were like is that it, I had to break it to them that if you want to see the 2nd part CBS Access was where it was locked away.
The thing is we can't really judge the show as the pilot was really just setting everything up for the rest of the 13 episodes which will be the true show. But I enjoyed it and will see what happens with it.
The thing is we can't really judge the show as the pilot was really just setting everything up for the rest of the 13 episodes which will be the true show. But I enjoyed it and will see what happens with it.
One tip to anyone with a Netflix subscription: You can use this in any country around the world where Netflix has a presence and you will see the content for the country that your IP adress is based in. So, here in Germany I can see the German Netflix content. If I log into Netflix in the US I see the US Netflix content. So, if you move yourself (or your computer...) to a country outside the US or Canada, you will be able to see Star Trek Discovery on Netflix.
I watched the first two episodes yesterday and really enjoyed them a lot! Looking forward to next Monday!
I watched the first two episodes yesterday and really enjoyed them a lot! Looking forward to next Monday!
ChrisFL
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I like The Orville, but I agree about the question regarding whether or not it can be a comedy and a real sci-fi show/drama at the same time...will be an interesting mix, but they do have some good support working on the show also (Jon Favreau, Brannon Braga)
bclane
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That explains a lot, thanks. I'll definitely post again after seeing the 2nd half. Like you, I'm a life long Star Trek fan so I'm really hoping this one is a winner (despite the stupid way they are rolling this thing out).
bclane
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Oh I didn't know they were involved. I may have to give it another chance then. I'd prefer a blatant spoof like comedy (like Space Balls was for Star Wars) or a serious science fiction. It's the strange middle ground that it's taken that didn't make that much sense to me but maybe I could get used to it.
PorterRedkey
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FYI:
I have seen the number of episodes for Star Trek Discovery listed as 10 or 13. The 1st season is supposed to be 15 episodes. If the schedule is the same as the UK Netflix release schedule, there will be a break from the 2nd week in November to January. The final episodes will air starting in January.
FYI:
I have seen the number of episodes for Star Trek Discovery listed as 10 or 13. The 1st season is supposed to be 15 episodes. If the schedule is the same as the UK Netflix release schedule, there will be a break from the 2nd week in November to January. The final episodes will air starting in January.