A Florida-based film for Soarin'.....ever happening?

[rsoxguy]

• Lighthouse at Cape Florida or Jupiter.
• Seven Mile Bridge leading to Key West.
• One of the smaller Key's coastal landscape.
• Any island's aerial view near Marco Island/Ft. Meyers.
• A Naval base in Jacksonville or Pensacola.
• Castillo de San Marcos in St. Augustine.
• Rows of trees in the orange groves.
• A shoreline view of Lake Okeechobee.
• Saw grass and marsh fly-over of the Everglades.
• Iwo Jima statue in Cape Coral.
• The St. Johns River.
• The Breakers Hotel on Palm Beach.
• Any number of beautiful golf resorts.
• NASA and JFK Space Center launchpad/rocket/shuttle.
• Parade on Calle Ocho in Miami.
• Expansive sugarcane farmland.
• Bok Tower and gardens in Lake Wales.
• The Skyway Bridge in Tampa.
• Blackwater River State Forest.
• The Swanee River.
• Peace River canoeing in Zolfo Springs.
• WDW- any part of the property.

I do not wish to see a Soarin' film based on Florida. I believe that the folks at Disney should do something more diverse and spectacular. My point, however, is simple. Those who think that Florida is a desolate swamp wasteland have never opened their eyes and hearts to the beauty of our state.

 

[SeaBase86]

• Lighthouse at Cape Florida or Jupiter.
• Seven Mile Bridge leading to Key West.
• One of the smaller Key's coastal landscape.
• Any island's aerial view near Marco Island/Ft. Meyers.
• A Naval base in Jacksonville or Pensacola.
• Castillo de San Marcos in St. Augustine.
• Rows of trees in the orange groves.
• A shoreline view of Lake Okeechobee.
• Saw grass and marsh fly-over of the Everglades.
• Iwo Jima statue in Cape Coral.
• The St. Johns River.
• The Breakers Hotel on Palm Beach.
• Any number of beautiful golf resorts.
• NASA and JFK Space Center launchpad/rocket/shuttle.
• Parade on Calle Ocho in Miami.
• Expansive sugarcane farmland.
• Bok Tower and gardens in Lake Wales.
• The Skyway Bridge in Tampa.
• Blackwater River State Forest.
• The Swanee River.
• Peace River canoeing in Zolfo Springs.
• WDW- any part of the property.

I do not wish to see a Soarin' film based on Florida. I believe that the folks at Disney should do something more diverse and spectacular. My point, however, is simple. Those who think that Florida is a desolate swamp wasteland have never opened their eyes and hearts to the beauty of our state.

It's because we only stay between Orlando International Airport and that beautiful 25,000 acre paradise lol.

 

[unkadug]

The only upgrade in talks for Soarin' at WDW is an upgrade to digital IMAX projector. The attraction is too popular for TDO to mess with. When you have a hit why change it?

Unfortunately it's this same mentality that prevents the Yeti from being repaired.

 

[rsoxguy]

It's because we only stay between Orlando International Airport and that beautiful 25,000 acre paradise lol.

I'm just sayin'.

 

[unkadug]

I don't know about others, but my personal feeling after watching the fan-made version is...... I'm underwhelmed. No offense to the person who put the work in to that video, but it's really not even close to as exhilarating as the Disney California version. Almost everything is water or buildings. There's not much diversity in the video.

That's just my opinion though. I know not everyone will agree with me.

Well the state of Florida owes a lot of it's heritage to water. But to say that water is just water is like saying that land is just land.

Your argument just doesn't hold water! :lookaroun

I do not wish to see a Soarin' film based on Florida. I believe that the folks at Disney should do something more diverse and spectacular. My point, however, is simple. Those who think that Florida is a desolate swamp wasteland have never opened their eyes and hearts to the beauty of our state.

So true. Florida has A LOT more to offer than just WDW.:hammer:

 

[SeaCastle]

The only upgrade in talks for Soarin' at WDW is an upgrade to digital IMAX projector. The attraction is too popular for TDO to mess with. When you have a hit why change it?

Plus, you'll ruin that family's once in a lifetime trip if you take it down for a refurb.

 

[SeaBase86]

Unfortunately it's this same mentality that prevents the Yeti from being repaired.

I think the mentality is different. While Soarin' isn't broke Everest is broke and it needs to be fixed. The ride is themed around the yeti and you can barely see it in the one on one encounter.

 

[SeaCastle]

Soarin' is one of the most anti-climatic rides on property...next to Snow White's Scary Adventures. I just watched four minutes of cinematic beauty...and my experience ends with flying over a park I'm not actually visiting and computer animated Tinkerbell and fireworks. :shrug:

 

[JohnLocke]

I don't know about others, but my personal feeling after watching the fan-made version is...... I'm underwhelmed. No offense to the person who put the work in to that video, but it's really not even close to as exhilarating as the Disney California version. Almost everything is water or buildings. There's not much diversity in the video.

That's just my opinion though. I know not everyone will agree with me.

I have to disagree, I think they did a really great job with only the use of stock footage. It made me think that it could be possible to do a pretty decent Soarin' over Florida, though I still think it's highly unlikely and too hard to do. The state's just not topographically diverse enough for it to work out too well. California's mountains do a lot to really help many sequences during it.

 

[Tigger1988]

Okay? So? What does that have to do with Florida or AA? A large portion of the film is very close to Anaheim... not very exotic.

You claimed that Disney somehow made a mistake putting a ride based on California scenes in a park in California. I'm pointing out that many tourists visiting DLR wouldn't see much of the sights otherwise, seeing as they don't deal with Anaheim other than the ending.

No mistake made, California is a broad enough subject that both tourists and locals can enjoy the ride. Just like Americans find a way to enjoy AA at Epcot.

 

[_Scar]

You claimed that Disney somehow made a mistake putting a ride based on California scenes in a park in California. I'm pointing out that many tourists visiting DLR wouldn't see much of the sights otherwise, seeing as they don't deal with Anaheim other than the ending.

No mistake made, California is a broad enough subject that both tourists and locals can enjoy the ride. Just like Americans find a way to enjoy AA at Epcot.

Most people visiting DLR are California APs who have probably seen the real thing in their everyday life. And not many tourists, I'd think, haven't seen a golf course, beach, mountain, DL at night, a dessert.... :lookaroun

AA has nothing at all to do with Soarin. Different time, place, concept.

 

[SeaBase86]

Most people visiting DLR are California APs who have probably seen the real thing in their everyday life. And not many tourists, I'd think, haven't seen a golf course, beach, mountain, DL at night, a dessert.... :lookaroun

AA has nothing at all to do with Soarin. Different time, place, concept.

AA takes place over all our history. And your justifying the everyone who goes to DL is from Cali. I'm an annual pasholder there from Jersey and Soarin' is the closet thing I've been to the Golden Gate Bridge.

 

[Tigger1988]

Most people visiting DLR are California APs who have probably seen the real thing in their everyday life. And not many tourists, I'd think, haven't seen a golf course, beach, mountain, DL at night, a dessert.... :lookaroun

AA has nothing at all to do with Soarin. Different time, place, concept.

Sigh. AA was being used as an example NOT a comparison, which I think you were aware of.

Ok, lets assume every person who goes to DLR is a California AP who as seen EVERY sight in Soarin' in person. Can you explain how the ride is still open almost a decade later? And popular enough to be brought to WDW? I mean, if they've seen it all for real why would they want to watch it on a big screen?

Do you realize how large a state California is? Even if someone lives there that doesn't mean they see everything depicted in Soarin' in "their everyday life".

 

[sponono88]

Most people visiting DLR are California APs who have probably seen the real thing in their everyday life. And not many tourists, I'd think, haven't seen a golf course, beach, mountain, DL at night, a dessert.... :lookaroun

AA has nothing at all to do with Soarin. Different time, place, concept.

I'm an AP living in California and i've only been to like 4 of the places in the Soarin' film. :lookaroun Even if I had been to all those locations, I think I would still enjoy being able to experience it from a bird's eye view with the beautiful Jerry Goldsmith score. I would hardly call one of the most popular attractions at the park a failure.

 

[LoriMistress]

I would prefer Soarin' The World.

 

[_Scar]

I'm an AP living in California and i've only been to like 4 of the places in the Soarin' film. :lookaroun Even if I had been to all those locations, I think I would still enjoy being able to experience it from a bird's eye view with the beautiful Jerry Goldsmith score. I would hardly call one of the most popular attractions at the park a failure.

4 out of... how many?

Sure you would enjoy it still, who wouldn't (unless you really do parasail over Cali)... but it could be so much more. Which is my point, it's not a failure (DCA as a whole is imo) it's more of a wasted oppurtunity :shrug:

Sigh. AA was being used as an example NOT a comparison, which I think you were aware of.

Ok, lets assume every person who goes to DLR is a California AP who as seen EVERY sight in Soarin' in person. Can you explain how the ride is still open almost a decade later? And popular enough to be brought to WDW? I mean, if they've seen it all for real why would they want to watch it on a big screen?

Do you realize how large a state California is? Even if someone lives there that doesn't mean they see everything depicted in Soarin' in "their everyday life".

AA is not very comparable to Soarin... two totally different things.

Because it's something to do? Idk. Is it really as popular in Cali as it is in Epcot? Doubt it but don't know for sure.

It's just a wasted oppurtunity. Not exotic. Due for a change for everyone.

And I think you'd be surprised how many people see the things in their real life. Most of the locations are vague.

AA takes place over all our history. And your justifying the everyone who goes to DL is from Cali. I'm an annual pasholder there from Jersey and Soarin' is the closet thing I've been to the Golden Gate Bridge.

Most. It's a fact that well over 50% of the park attendees are Cali APs.

You live in Jersey, not California- so I wouldn't assume you're familiar with the area... :lookaroun

 

[SeaBase86]

I always found DCA to be one of the most unique Disney parks. I thought the park was always great (instead of superstar limo). Everything was themed so great. The sensation of stepping through a postcard is so unique I never understood the hate. But I know I'm bout to hear the reasons:
1. There's no magic
2. The rides aren't Disney (really? Space mountain is just a roller coaster, which are found at carnivals).
3. It's small. (well there's no land really left. Dl resort was always small).


Now what are the other complaints?

 

[Pepper's Ghost]

But to say that water is just water is like saying that land is just land.

Your argument just doesn't hold water! :lookaroun

Ummm, no. That's not true at all. Land is NOT just land. Are you telling me that the desert is just the same as mountains, canyons, forests, fields, meadows, hills, etc.? However, there were two basic things that were similar in all the water shots in that video.... beaches and rivers. Now, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with Florida. California just has a more diverse topography which I feel works better in the film. And I'm completely unbiased. I don't and have never lived in or near CA. In fact, I prefer WDW to Disneyland. No offense to your state. Although I love where I live, I know it doesn't have enough topography to make an impressive film either. :shrug:

I have to disagree, I think they did a really great job with only the use of stock footage. It made me think that it could be possible to do a pretty decent Soarin' over Florida, though I still think it's highly unlikely and too hard to do. The state's just not topographically diverse enough for it to work out too well. California's mountains do a lot to really help many sequences during it.

I understand what you're saying. The video was well done, but I agree with your statements. FL just doesn't have enough topography, and the topography is what left me underwhelmed. I thought I was clear about that. Although, a closeup of the Kennedy Space Station and a launch would be pretty darn cool in a Soarin' video.

How about they make a mixed video of both FL and CA. That might satisfy many.

 

[Tigger1988]

AA is not very comparable to Soarin... two totally different things.

Because it's something to do? Idk. Is it really as popular in Cali as it is in Epcot? Doubt it but don't know for sure.

It's just a wasted oppurtunity. Not exotic. Due for a change for everyone.

And I think you'd be surprised how many people see the things in their real life. Most of the locations are vague.

Do I need to repeat that no one was COMPARING Soarin' to AA? Or are you just not reading?

Most of the locations aren't vague, that is unless you have zero knowledge of California. Golden Gate Bridge? Napa Valley? Yosemite National Park? I could go on. And since you asked, there's 12 sights visited in the film. So there you have a CA resident telling you they've seen maybe 4 of them in real life.

 

[unkadug]

Ummm, no. That's not true at all. Land is NOT just land. Are you telling me that the desert is just the same as mountains, canyons, forests, fields, meadows, hills, etc.? However, there were two basic things that were similar in all the water shots in that video.... beaches and rivers. Now, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with Florida. California just has a more diverse topography which I feel works better in the film. And I'm completely unbiased. I don't and have never lived in or near CA. In fact, I prefer WDW to Disneyland. No offense to your state. Although I love where I live, I know it doesn't have enough topography to make an impressive film either. :shrug:



I understand what you're saying. The video was well done, but I agree with your statements. FL just doesn't have enough topography, and the topography is what left me underwhelmed. I thought I was clear about that. Although, a closeup of the Kennedy Space Station and a launch would be pretty darn cool in a Soarin' video.

How about they make a mixed video of both FL and CA. That might satisfy many.

Your argument is based upon your ideas of what the film could contain. Topography does not make a film. A film director makes a film.
(I'm not talking in the literal sense, so don't even go there)

What do you have against water, most all of the scenes in California contain earthen elements...so does that make them similar? :shrug: