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I have no doubt Disney can create something spectacular. To me the problem recently has been that there hasn’t been one singular vision they’ve worked towards.

Rather it’s been an exercise of multiple visions and trying to be all things to all people by satisfying individual goals/narratives/personal objectives - then at the very end they try to bring it all together thinking it will be cohesive.

And it just ends up stinking. I still hold out hope, though.
 
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SpectreJordan

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JackCH said:
Am I losing my mind or hasn't Indy at Disneyland always been viewed as the far superior attraction to Dinosaur?

It certainly has by me lol, and I think this is an obvious good move.

Not adding a fourth attraction is a miss though. Get some more capacity at that park stat!
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I rode Indy for the first time last year after riding Dinosaur a dozen times. Indy is better & it's not even close; Indy's perhaps the best ride I've ever been on, even outside of my fandom of the series. The sets are immaculate. I pray that the DAK ride can be even half as good as that ride.

Dinosaur's a ton of fun but you can just feel the budget cuts because of how much of the ride is in the dark. I assume they wanted to have fully detailed sets of the lush prehistoric jungle but had to cheap out and set the ride at night to hide that they didn't have the budget for many sets.
 
Disstevefan1

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OK, Indy is a better ride than Dinosaur but we have no idea what we are getting in place of Dinosaur.

I presume this will be a glorified re skin, same vehicles same track layout, but they can reprogram how the vehicles move.

Just a guess on my part, but this glorified re skin will be done cheapest as possible.
 
JackCH

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Disstevefan1 said:
OK, Indy is a better ride than Dinosaur but we have no idea what we are getting in place of Dinosaur.

I presume this will be a glorified re skin, same vehicles same track layout, but they can reprogram how the vehicles move.

Just a guess on my part, but this glorified re skin will be done cheapest as possible.
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They are already the same track layout and vehicles.

I’m almost certain this ride will be done to a similar level as Disneyland Indy, if not better just because of newer animatronics and tech.

And I’m pretty sure insiders have said that imagineering feels this will be the superior version.
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This I can speak for specifically. That is not true at all and never was. It is absolutely designed and planned to be the superior version. At least on paper it is and everyone involved I’ve spoken to believes it will be but as we know until it opens we will see if the public perception feels the same way.

As far as budgets in general Disney has always stated that the second half of the 10 year plan will see the bulk of the money. So if true there is a lot more coming.
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Disstevefan1

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JackCH said:
They are already the same track layout and vehicles.

I’m almost certain this ride will be done to a similar level as Disneyland Indy, if not better just because of newer animatronics and tech.

And I’m pretty sure insiders have said that imagineering feels this will be the superior version.
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Since they are using the same layout I have hope it will be as good as Indy and since same vehicles and track even modern Disney cant mess it up.
 
Brer Panther

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Two questions:

1) Do you think Disney would be retheming Dinosaur to Indiana Jones if they didn't already have a similar Indiana Jones ride built years earlier? It's not exactly one of their most hyped-up franchises, like Frozen or Marvel.
 
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rle4lunch

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Brer Panther said:
Two questions:

1) Do you think Disney would be retheming Dinosaur to Indiana Jones if they didn't already have a similar Indiana Jones ride built years earlier? It's not exactly one of their most hyped-up franchises, like Frozen or Marvel.

2) What makes everyone so sure that the Indiana Jones retheme - which is being made by Iger's Disney, - will be as good as Disneyland's Indiana Jones ride - which was made before Iger?
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1. Probably not, but it's still a very viable and evergreen IP. It had/has/will have staying power as a story telling medium for spinoffs and countless more games. So, in that vein, I can totally understand why this was greenlit. And the fact that Dinosaur isn't that great of a ride (gasp), and WDW kinda gave up on it the last decade or so.

2. 30 years of technologic improvements to how attractions are built almost guarantee that this will be at or better than DL's. DL's version is great, but could definitely use a refresh. For years during covid and coming out of covid, the ride was perpetually running in B or C mode (no fire affects, boulder not moving, snake not moving, etc) and was down about 3-4 hours a day. They've managed to get it running better the last 2 years, but it still feels the ride needs to be shut down for 6-12 months to have a thorough go-thru to fix and refresh/modernize it.
 
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HonorableMention

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I hope that when the Indy retheme is done that ops are able to keep the ride running reliably. Between IJA and Dinosaur, it seems like a really finnicky ride system that goes down easily.

I don’t think it’s uncommon on either coast to see a lot of unexpected downtime, and the vehicles in AK are almost 30 years old.
 
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rle4lunch said:
1. Probably not, but it's still a very viable and evergreen IP. It had/has/will have staying power as a story telling medium for spinoffs and countless more games. So, in that vein, I can totally understand why this was greenlit. And the fact that Dinosaur isn't that great of a ride (gasp), and WDW kinda gave up on it the last decade or so.

2. 30 years of technologic improvements to how attractions are built almost guarantee that this will be at or better than DL's. DL's version is great, but could definitely use a refresh. For years during covid and coming out of covid, the ride was perpetually running in B or C mode (no fire affects, boulder not moving, snake not moving, etc) and was down about 3-4 hours a day. They've managed to get it running better the last 2 years, but it still feels the ride needs to be shut down for 6-12 months to have a thorough go-thru to fix and refresh/modernize it.
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It seems like now the company is more interested in efficiency of design which clearly the DL version was not... It was the most elaborate queue they had ever built...The ride sets are amazing and beautifully done. Seems like the new philosophy is simpler, cheaper and integrate more screens. I think adding Indy will be great, I just hope it is not the budget version that is not as great as what they have previously built... and I hope they don't create some social commentary backstory that is not necessary.
 
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Bocabear said:
It seems like now the company is more interested in efficiency of design which clearly the DL version was not... It was the most elaborate queue they had ever built...The ride sets are amazing and beautifully done. Seems like the new philosophy is simpler, cheaper and integrate more screens. I think adding Indy will be great, I just hope it is not the budget version that is not as great as what they have previously built... and I hope they don't create some social commentary backstory that is not necessary.
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I look at the current queues in WDW and feel that they have actually stepped up their game on theming them while stepping down on ride quality (GOTG and FOP withstanding). Think of Little Mermaid in MK (Awesome queue, lackluster ride) compared to the DCA queue (meh queue). Think of Rat's queue (lackluster ride).
 
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