Disneyland Fantasmic Dragon Engulfed in Flames

[Streetway]

Not an Insider but hypothetically, if the Dragon is Installed without the 2009 Problems by Halloween, why wait till the 70th?????

I'm grateful we have the 2024 F! Version (when all the Pyro works) this summer. But I know most People want the Full version back ASAP.

Could be marked as a part of the celebration to sell more tickets.

 

[TTA94]

Could be marked as a part of the celebration to sell more tickets.

If they have other stuff planned for the 70th it might not be necessary to save the dragons debut. IMO Paint The Night returning would be a major draw for the 70th. Now in the unlikely event MSEP was brought back instead of Paint or no nighttime parade at all, then I could see why the dragon would be saved for the 70th.

 

[Streetway]

If they have other stuff planned for the 70th it might not be necessary to save the dragons debut. IMO Paint The Night returning would be a major draw for the 70th. Now in the unlikely event MSEP was brought back instead of Paint or no nighttime parade at all, then I could see why the dragon would be saved for the 70th.

Isn’t PTN likley not coming back because the costume legit hurt people?

 

[jrhwdw]

If they have other stuff planned for the 70th it might not be necessary to save the dragons debut. IMO Paint The Night returning would be a major draw for the 70th. Now in the unlikely event MSEP was brought back instead of Paint or no nighttime parade at all, then I could see why the dragon would be saved for the 70th.

I would think and hope MSEP wold be a major draw as well. As for Fireworks, RDCT, DL Forever or something New that reaches RDCT/Forever's standard would do nicely as well.

It's also interesting that the Install is rumored to be a Week or two off....If DL was just thinking about the 70th, wouldn't they wait till Jan? Not unlike MK Starlight's prep work is rumored for Jan?

 

[TTA94]

Isn’t PTN likley not coming back because the costume legit hurt people?

There were rumors it was returning in some way shape or form for the 70th, but those plans could have changed.

 

[Streetway]

I would think and hope MSEP wold be a major draw as well. As for Fireworks, RDCT, DL Forever or something New that reaches RDCT/Forever's standard would do nicely as well.

It's also interesting that the Install is rumored to be a Week or two off....If DL was just thinking about the 70th, wouldn't they wait till Jan? Not unlike MK Starlight's prep work is rumored for Jan?

I don’t think RDCT because “everybody’s got a laughing place” is a big part of one of the segments

 

[TTA94]

I would think and hope MSEP wold be a major draw as well. As for Fireworks, RDCT, DL Forever or something New that reaches RDCT/Forever's standard would do nicely as well.

Just a guess I doubt Disneyland fans would be satisfied with MSEP returning, as it was anyway, when WDW is getting a brand new parade and one that includes the Blue Fairy. Her absence from MSEP has been highly missed. Paint The Night seems way more fitting for the 70th and for both coasts to, finally, have their own nighttime parade.

 

[jrhwdw]

Just a guess I doubt Disneyland fans would be satisfied with MSEP returning, as it was anyway, when WDW is getting a brand new parade and one that includes the Blue Fairy. Her absence from MSEP has been highly missed. Paint The Night seems way more fitting for the 70th and for both coasts to, finally, have their own nighttime parade.

Fair. I forgot about the Blue Fairy aspect.
As good as MSEP is.....it will be 2025. It's probably high time that both US MK'S had Parades with new tech. Or 2015 tech.

 

[Disney Irish]

Well since PtN debuted for the 60th, it seems fitting for it to come back for the 70th. So here is hoping it comes back next year.

 

[Starship824]

Isn’t PTN likley not coming back because the costume legit hurt people?

I'm sure the costumes can be reworked.

 

[coffeefan]

I would save the MSEP for whatever the DForward project is to connect the old with the new. (But also add to it some new floats)

 

[Disney Irish]

I would save the MSEP for whatever the DForward project is to connect the old with the new. (But also add to it some new floats)

Why? Let that parade stay retired, no reason to bring it back when you have a great successor in PtN.

 

[coffeefan]

Why? Let that parade stay retired, no reason to bring it back when you have a great successor in PtN.

Just anecdotally it seems like MSEP has more of a following and is a bigger draw to casual fans. Maybe it made a bigger cultural impact because of how long it ran. It seems that way from my observations anyway, so I think it would be a nice addition to a theoretical third gate or expanded lands to have something at night.

I agree with PtN for the 70th though or they could do something new.

 

[Disney Irish]

Just anecdotally it seems like MSEP has more of a following and is a bigger draw to casual fans. Maybe it made a bigger cultural impact because of how long it ran. It seems that way from my observations anyway, so I think it would be a nice addition to a theoretical third gate or expanded lands to have something at night.

I agree with PtN for the 70th though or they could do something new.

I honestly think most DLR fans are tired of MSEP, it’s old and outdated at this point. Especially when compared to PtN. Sure MSEP has the nostalgia factor, but that only lasts so long before it gets seen as outdated.

Anyways I hope one day that PtN returns and MSEP stays retired.

 

[jrhwdw]

I would save the MSEP for whatever the DForward project is to connect the old with the new. (But also add to it some new floats)

Is a Parade Route coming to DForward????

 

[Disney Irish]

Is a Parade Route coming to DForward????

There has been no indication of a new or expanded parade route for DLForward at this point. I think the poster is just hoping that something like that might exist in the future, and would like the MSEP to be used for it if that happens.

 

[jrhwdw]

There has been no indication of a new or expanded parade route for DLForward at this point. I think the poster is just hoping that something like that might exist in the future, and would like the MSEP to be used for it if that happens.

Thanks!

 

[PiratesMansion]

Just anecdotally it seems like MSEP has more of a following and is a bigger draw to casual fans. Maybe it made a bigger cultural impact because of how long it ran. It seems that way from my observations anyway, so I think it would be a nice addition to a theoretical third gate or expanded lands to have something at night.

I agree with PtN for the 70th though or they could do something new.

MSEP seems like a bigger deal because there's a huge contingent of locals and APs who go insane for it, but if you asked the average person which light parade was more impressive objectively today in 2024, PTN would win.

The apparent popularity of MSEP compared to PTN is also skewed because the resort has hardly allowed PTN a fair fight here-it's only come back once or twice since the 60th and not at all since 2018. Meanwhile, MSEP gets trotted out again and again and again, even if its age and antiquity are increasingly obvious to all not blinded by the nostalgia goggles.

Perhaps those PTN costume issues have credence, but it shouldn't be that difficult for a company with the resources Disney has to redesign them if that's true-and it's worth nothing that the HKDL version of PTN ran continuously until the pandemic hit. It's not like PTN can't or won't do the sorts of numbers MSEP does, it's that for whatever reason the powers that be at DLR specifically just aren't interested in giving it a shot.

 

[D.Silentu]

Funny thing about the Main Street Electrical Parade is it's advertised as the apex of Disneyland nostalgia, yet has returned so frequently that there is hardly enough time in the interim to become nostalgic for it.

 

[iMax]

I don't have a ton of info but it's supposedly bigger, more advanced, and yes still shooting fire.

And hopefully equipped with a fire suppression system.