News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Rich T]

Bro you just disrespected The Live-Action Cinderella, Beauty and The Beast, Alice in Wonderland, Lady and the tramp and the other good live action remakes!

They are all vastly inferior to the originals, IMO. They’re not bad, and are somewhat entertaining, but none of them match the artistry and great storytelling of the animated classics.

I do have a beef, in particular, with Burton’s Alice. ‘Cause, Y’know, when a movie is called “Alice in Wonderland,” it helps if the story being told is actually “Alice in Wonderland” and not a completely different story that seems to have more in common with a Narnia tale. And don’t get me started on “Through the Looking Glass”….

 

[Disney-Universal Fanboy]

They are all vastly inferior to the originals, IMO. They’re not bad, and are somewhat entertaining, but none of them match the artistry and great storytelling of the animated classics.

I do have a beef, in particular, with Burton’s Alice. ‘Cause, Y’know, when a movie is called “Alice in Wonderland,” it helps if the story being told is actually “Alice in Wonderland” and not a completely different story that seems to have more in common with a Narnia tale. And don’t get me started on “Through the Looking Glass”….

Yeah, The Live action Alice is entertaining, But it made the whole ending of the animated movie redundant

 

[Rich Brownn]

Not a single remake, IMO, has been better than the original. At best, they’re sometimes not-completely-awful.

And the OG PatF is a fine movie (beautifully drawn) with a couple of flaws. Not looking forward to CGI frogs and gators.

I think "Jungle Book" was much better. But then it hewed closer to its source material and didn't try to be cute and funny most of the time

 

[Rich T]

I think "Jungle Book" was much better. But then it hewed closer to its source material and didn't try to be cute and funny most of the time

I think the Jungle Book remake was definitely one of the better ones, certainly helped by the original animated film being so comparatively (and intentionally) lightweight. That said, the remake in retrospect (IMO) now seems kind of bloated, style-less and forgettable. Certainly, the CGI characterizations of Baloo, Bagheera, Shere Kahn, Louie and Kaa have not left even a tiny blip on the pop culture landscape, while the 1960’s hand drawn versions are still recognized and embraced.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out Disney actually is aware that the remakes don’t have the staying power of the originals, and is perfectly content to just let them serve their purpose as short-lived cash-grabs.

It sure would be nice if all that time, money and talent went toward the creation of something original and wonderful.

 

[Rich Brownn]

I think the Jungle Book remake was definitely one of the better ones, certainly helped by the original animated film being so comparatively (and intentionally) lightweight. That said, the remake in retrospect (IMO) now seems kind of bloated, style-less and forgettable. Certainly, the CGI characterizations of Baloo, Bagheera, Shere Kahn, Louie and Kaa have not left even a tiny blip on the pop culture landscape, while the 1960’s hand drawn versions are still recognized and embraced.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out Disney actually is aware that the remakes don’t have the staying power of the originals, and is perfectly content to just let them serve their purpose as short-lived cash-grabs.

It sure would be nice if all that time, money and talent went toward the creation of something original and wonderful.

Of course the cartoons are recognized more. The remake featured animals that looked like.. well, animals. They aren't a funny sketch version of them.

 

[Rich T]

Of course the cartoons are recognized more. The remake featured animals that looked like.. well, animals. They aren't a funny sketch version of them.

Yes. And the remake isn’t strong enough (IMO) to be particularly memorable in script or visual style to stand out in its own. As lightweight as the animated classic is, it is very entertaining and memorable.

That’s the whole problem with the remakes. Instead of presenting something original, cohesive and memorable, they’re chained to the curse of having to hit mandatory nostalgia-check-boxes even if doing so maybe isn’t the wisest move. Disney wants to have its cake and eat it too.

And so we get a Little Mermaid remake with hideous CGI sidekicks and a Jungle Book where CGI characters are forced to perform clumsy, forgettable versions of songs that were wonderful in the original animated film.

 

[Bocabear]

I can't think of one live action remake that was better than the original...I won't count Cruella because that was really something different.... There were things to like about the Cinderella and the BATB... but in general they never quite did it for me...Both of those movies had a dress problem... Cinderella's garish blue dress was so immense it wore her, and Belle's Golden gown was completely wrong period...Looked more like 1940s and way too demure... Actually Cinderella's Godmother gown was much prettier than what she conjured for Cindy...Almost like they made the white one for Cinderella and then changed their mind and decided to match the blue dress that was sold as Halloween costumes...
The other live action remakes I think have all been terrible...

 

[brb1006]

I can't think of one live action remake that was better than the original...I won't count Cruella because that was really something different.... There were things to like about the Cinderella and the BATB... but in general they never quite did it for me...Both of those movies had a dress problem... Cinderella's garish blue dress was so immense it wore her, and Belle's Golden gown was completely wrong period...Looked more like 1940s and way too demure... Actually Cinderella's Godmother gown was much prettier than what she conjured for Cindy...Almost like they made the white one for Cinderella and then changed their mind and decided to match the blue dress that was sold as Halloween costumes...
The other live action remakes I think have all been terrible...

I really enjoyed the 1996 live-action adaptation of 101 Dalmatians.

 

[James Alucobond]

Cinderella is better, I think, but it’s really the only one, mostly because it didn’t concern itself with following the original story. The others are either unasked for facsimiles or weird attempts to make evil characters sympathetic (though I chuckle at Maleficent glossing over the fact that her name is literally meant to invoke the opposite of “beneficent”).

 

[mickEblu]

So are we finding out Dr. Facilier is making an appearance in TBA tomorrow or will it be just another mind boggling marketing decision from Disney when it comes to this attraction? Having a whole segment devoted to Keith David/ Facilier at the same event where they are doing a deep dive on the attraction would make zero sense unless he's in it.

 

[Bocabear]

I had forgotten about that, and the first one was cute...
but none of the other live action remakes seem to be that great...it feels like all the sequel movies Disney was churning out in the late 90s, early 200s... Cinderella 2? Those were serious garbage...and now these live action remakes seem the same to me...

 

[UNCgolf]

If they do re-theme it in Tokyo, I wonder what it will be.

I don't think OLC will be on board with changing it to Tiana; they'd probably want something different.

 

[McMickeyWorld]

If they do re-theme it in Tokyo, I wonder what it will be.

I don't think OLC will be on board with changing it to Tiana; they'd probably want something different.

If they go for the easy route, they could just swap the figures for Duffy and Friends animatronics and that's it. With the IP, they don't need a very complex plot to work and be fun.
It would sell millions in merchandise, a total success.

 

[Eric Graham]

Cinderella is better, I think, but it’s really the only one, mostly because it didn’t concern itself with following the original story. The others are either unasked for facsimiles or weird attempts to make evil characters sympathetic (though I chuckle at Maleficent glossing over the fact that her name is literally meant to invoke the opposite of “beneficent”).

I honestly really enjoyed the Cruella remake a lot to be honest.

 

[LittleBuford]

though I chuckle at Maleficent glossing over the fact that her name is literally meant to invoke the opposite of “beneficent”).

More than that, her name is an actual word, though admittedly one I’ve never encountered in another context:

Definition of MALEFICENT

working or productive of harm or evil : baleful… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

maleficent | Etymology of maleficent by etymonline

"doing or producing harm, acting with evil intent or effect," 1670s, from Latin… See origin and meaning of maleficent.

www.etymonline.com

 

[MisterPenguin]

More than that, her name is an actual word, though admittedly one I’ve never encountered in another context:

Definition of MALEFICENT

working or productive of harm or evil : baleful… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

maleficent | Etymology of maleficent by etymonline

"doing or producing harm, acting with evil intent or effect," 1670s, from Latin… See origin and meaning of maleficent.

www.etymonline.com

Letting us know was beneficent of you.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Ok, let's try this again:

From a Tokyo thread:

Rumor is Disney is not happy that Splash exists in Tokyo basically, and apparently is willing to pay now. Who knows, all I know is these next few years are going to be super interesting for TDR.

Splash will get a re-theme in a few years.
The pressure is getting into OLC from WDC.
Thats all im going to say and OLC cant say no on this one.

Can't they just leave it alone???