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Its like Jurassic Park:
"Our park is meant for everyone, not just the rich."
"Sure, we'll have...the coupon day."
Its like Jurassic Park:
"Our park is meant for everyone, not just the rich."
"Sure, we'll have...the coupon day."
Has a third US resort been seriously explored inside WDC at all in the last 20 years? It sure seems like there's enough demand between the coasts to start another resort complex in the middle of the country without destroying attendance at DL or WDW.
If they reduced ticket price the parks would have higher attendance and lined. The only way to reduce crowds is higher prices or they could only allow those staying onsite into the Parks.DVC was a very smart move by Disney... it is pretty much guaranteed guests whether by the owners or people they rent their points out to. This has increased attendance as well as all the events they have now in the "slow" periods (which are no longer slow).
Some of Disney has gone down... prices go up... and attendance and spending per guest continues to go up. It's painful for all of us. Crowds and beginning to be too much and pricing is out of hand in many cases.
If Disney would expand more of their parks and reduce some of their hotel costs they would host more guests - but it's not about getting more guests.. it's all about squeezing the utters of those that do still come and then they don't have to be as concerned about an increase of the # of guests... just the spending of the guests that are there
welcome to the new Di$ney
My family and I have been in 2012, 2014, 2015, and 2017. We will be going back in 2019. The price increases have not changed anything about our plans to continue visiting. We know how to plan a Disney trip, so the crowding really has been no issue what-so-ever. And we have found the CM's to be almost universally pleasant to interact with. For someone who is so vocal about not visiting WDW anymore -- I believe you said you haven't been in a park since 2015? -- you seem to have a vastly different perception of the place than those of us who actually visit. But, hey, to each his own.Most normal people think that Todays Disney is the same as it was when they were kids. It's only here and other places where hard core Disney fans gather that we know that the value today is much less than it was 20 years ago.
One trip is usually enough to fix this misapprehension with the crowding and 'less than magical' CM's
The 2 new attractions at Avatar are driving the ticket increases at AK.The crowds are higher on average each day...but I agree that it's not that much different.
It's not that bad...frankly...you just have to conform to their planning methods. It stinks but it's the way it works. If you want spontaneity...or to rack up a ride count...this isn't the place for you.
It was never about the rides anyway...as
Proven by the fact they never add any these days and the attendance continues to climb
If they reduced ticket price the parks would have higher attendance and lined. The only way to reduce crowds is higher prices or they could only allow those staying onsite into the Parks.
The people that want to come are coming regardless of the price. Price increases aren't deterring people and price decreases wouldn't encourage a significant amount more to come than already do (unless you are talking about a >25% decrease). I realize basic economic principles do not agree with this view but Disney attendance doesn't follow the usual economic foundational norms.
Oh please. This has nothing to do with 'hanging out on the Dis', it's just the reality of economics.
Whether something is undervalued, priced to value, or overvalued has absolutely nothing to do with profit. It has to do with what the market perceives the value of the product to be worth and what people are willing to pay for that value. And to me and many others, the current price is not that ceiling. To many, it is. All I'm saying is that, to me, the current pricing is still worth it. That is, of course, subjective. But objectively speaking, the market still supports the current pricing - people are still going in droves.
Now Disney is at risk of hitting that ceiling, or devaluing their product by slacking on maintenance, having lines that are too long, poor guest experiences, not building out and investing back in the product enough etc., and those are valid arguments, some of which I agree with. But if that's the case, then people will stop going because the price Disney is asking won't be worth the value of the product that they offer to most people.
And your dismissive comment about 'frosh economics class' is funny, because this is really nothing more than basic economics.
How does McDonalds make money...not selling burgers but selling franchise rent and fees, by a large percentage. That's their biggest secret, they are essentially a real estate company.
Wife and I have been annual pass holders for 4 years. We've chosen not too renew this year. $729 per pass for 2 people comes out to $121 a month... I'm just not sure anymore if there is a $121 a month in entertainment there anymore. We normally go at least 2 times a month. I think maybe we'll try something else or just start seeing movies twice a month. Who knows.....
I think I have probably said this in every ticket increase thread. The issue of constantly raising your prices isn't the thing that gets me mad. If they had been giving us the expansion the parks needed and the upkeep and all that fun stuff, I'd have NO issues with tickets going up. I have never had a problem with a company charging me more when the increase is justified with an improved experience. Not because, hey we can.Folks suggesting the only way to limit crowds is to raise prices...
You could also increase capacity dramatically. You know, the thing that WDW should have been doing for the last several decades but weren't. The thing they plan to continue not doing.
The impulse to blame guests and not the multi-billion dollar mega-corporation for problems at the tourist attraction controlled by the corporation is mind-boggling.
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