2014: What's in store?

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
So, if the stuff you like isn't affected by scanning a wristband, why exactly are you not returning? All of the stuff you mention is stuff you can still do. Now if you told me that your favorite thing was running ahead of the crowds to score fastpasses and then collecting them throughout the day to cash them all in in the evening, I'd say you've got a point, but can you please explain what it is that is lacking that you feel the need to stop going to a place you seem to care so much about?

Because the MM+ system is changing how the park is experienced and the expense is causing all the small things which made the park special to be removed.

When was the last time you saw the 'Dapper Dan's' or the vehicles on Main St. Or had your kids 'Wake up Tinkerbell' from the phone in the hat shop. Fountains are planters.

I could go on, But now using a cheap RFID is going to make your vacation more 'Magical'
 

John

Well-Known Member
Because the MM+ system is changing how the park is experienced and the expense is causing all the small things which made the park special to be removed.

When was the last time you saw the 'Dapper Dan's' or the vehicles on Main St. Or had your kids 'Wake up Tinkerbell' from the phone in the hat shop. Fountains are planters.

I could go on, But now using a cheap RFID is going to make your vacation more 'Magical'


Exactly, they are trying to sell the band as the "experience". Instead of the band being a tool to experience attractions. They sell it as this great benefit but in reality it benefits the guest marginally. Not to mention a limited amount of guest. Not all guest will benefit from MM+, but ALL guest will pay for it. This is something that hasn't been discussed. Even if you do not stay on property a portion of your paid ticketed park admission will be paying for MM+. Most can not deny there have been cuts.....cuts all over the parks. So when the next price increase comes around how much of that increase will go to MM+? We don't really know but I am sure a portion of it will. So no matter where you stay or what ticket medium you use you will be paying for MM+. Day trippers, off site guest? sorry you are paying for it but don't have access. Will this change? One could only hope.


edit: before everyone goes crazy.....yes I realize that guest will have access "day of" to MM+.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
So, if the stuff you like isn't affected by scanning a wristband, why exactly are you not returning? All of the stuff you mention is stuff you can still do. Now if you told me that your favorite thing was running ahead of the crowds to score fastpasses and then collecting them throughout the day to cash them all in in the evening, I'd say you've got a point, but can you please explain what it is that is lacking that you feel the need to stop going to a place you seem to care so much about?
I didnt say I was never going back. just taking a few years off to check out DL and hopefully one of the parks overseas. As long as WDW is there I will visit. Visiting now is far different than visiting 15 years ago.

Sure I can still do tthose things I mentioned but there were others that are gone now. They haven't been replaced with anything as timeless though. I have to hold on to the things that are magical to me and hope they don't 'enhance' it. Visiting now lacks the ability fore me to be spontaneous. It lacks the ability to experience world class customer service. It lacks the educational perspective it once had. But hey, you can book a FP on your phone so it's cool. They will get back to making magic again one day. I know they will. Hopefully it's soon.
 
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Mondo Mouse

Member
I third Soarin' theatre would be appreciated. Films would be good though> I would take new films for almost all of Epcot. They are old and graining compared to the new HD material being produced. I might be willing to stay in watch the again. :D

Those films along with almost every attraction in Future World need some serious TLC.
Epcot feels so dated in so many ways, it's sad.
 

71jason

Well-Known Member
Looks like the offender was deleted-user @hintofspy sent a pic to @ecardonwalker that's where one of my spy's told me to look

Part of me wants to assume that feed is an elaborate prank, a Universal fanboi's parody of a Disney fanboi. (I mean, calling people "stupidheads" because they hate the worst attraction ever created?)

But if it's not ... take comfort in the fact that freakshow surely never leaves his mother's basement. Stay out of there and you're fine.
 

asianway

Well-Known Member
Part of me wants to assume that feed is an elaborate prank, a Universal fanboi's parody of a Disney fanboi. (I mean, calling people "stupidheads" because they hate the worst attraction ever created?)

But if it's not ... take comfort in the fact that freakshow surely never leaves his mother's basement. Stay out of there and you're fine.
Oh no it's real. Care to take a crack at his magic username(s)?
 

taz0162

Well-Known Member
I assume you meant 2014 for the mine ride not 2015. Looking at the progress I think they are on target to have it open by Spring.
Last I read was that they were not opening it until Spring 2015. the progress that is seen is all on the outside. Fleshing out the inner workings and details is what will take some time to get done. I am guessing that they still shoot for Fall 2014 right before the holiday rush.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Last I read was that they were not opening it until Spring 2015. the progress that is seen is all on the outside. Fleshing out the inner workings and details is what will take some time to get done. I am guessing that they still shoot for Fall 2014 right before the holiday rush.

I am very skeptical of that date. There was a video from last April that showed work already underway on the interior, even at Disney's construction pace I can't see the interior work taking two years. They have also continued to use the Spring 2014 date, during the Christmas parade most recently. If this was going to slip into 2015 I would think they would have stopped saying that by now. I see no reason to believe the ride won't be open by Spring 2014.
 

taz0162

Well-Known Member
I am very skeptical of that date. There was a video from last April that showed work already underway on the interior, even at Disney's construction pace I can't see the interior work taking two years. They have also continued to use the Spring 2014 date, during the Christmas parade most recently. If this was going to slip into 2015 I would think they would have stopped saying that by now. I see no reason to believe the ride won't be open by Spring 2014.
OK rethought about this one over the last few min. it is supposed to open in 2014. For some reason I have 2015 in my head. Probably since that's our next Christmas trip to the World that I have started planning out / saving for. sorry for the confusion here.
 

Gomer

Well-Known Member
Because the MM+ system is changing how the park is experienced and the expense is causing all the small things which made the park special to be removed.

When was the last time you saw the 'Dapper Dan's' or the vehicles on Main St. Or had your kids 'Wake up Tinkerbell' from the phone in the hat shop. Fountains are planters.

I could go on, But now using a cheap RFID is going to make your vacation more 'Magical'
I'm asking this honestly...don't intend to sound sarcastic. Have they stopped/slowed the Dapper Dan's and Main Street Vehicles? During my last trip in May I was very pleased that the Main Street vehicles were out and running and I saw the Dapper Dan's perform on Main Street twice. I noted it as progress. I've caught the Dapper Dans on 3 of my last 4 trips as well.

If Disney is moving away from that, its a poor choice. It would be especially sad to me since I had noticed in increasing on this last trip and thought that they may be leaning back in the right direction again.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
I'm asking this honestly...don't intend to sound sarcastic. Have they stopped/slowed the Dapper Dan's and Main Street Vehicles? During my last trip in May I was very pleased that the Main Street vehicles were out and running and I saw the Dapper Dan's perform on Main Street twice. I noted it as progress. I've caught the Dapper Dans on 3 of my last 4 trips as well.

If Disney is moving away from that, its a poor choice. It would be especially sad to me since I had noticed in increasing on this last trip and thought that they may be leaning back in the right direction again.

Nope.. The dapper dans are still doing 8 sets every day and the Main Street vehicles are still out every morning. He's just making stuff up to push his agenda.
 

flyerjab

Well-Known Member
People on this site frequently opine about how WDW "used to be" 15 to 20, heck, even back to when it first opened in the 70's. I find that there is this desire for WDW to have been able to exist in a type of Norman Rockwell style time capsule. And believe me, I am totally for that as I am all about nostalgia. I have posted on here before about how I lived where milk was delivered by a milk man every few days to our house and a bakery truck from a local farm used to drive to everyone's house once a week and my mom and I used to walk into the back of it and pick out dessert for the week. That is what I remember as service, and also as those small special memories that stick out in my mind. Those types of things don't happen anymore. That is as unfortunate as life gets and I don't expect Disney to be any different. Disney exists in this world and is run by people that live in this world so I expect the same results over time. I have just decided to roll with it I suppose and try to enjoy life as it comes. Money rules the world!

The one thing that is ironic to me is that people speak about how WDW is not what it used to be and I think that the technology that I am typing this post on has helped to ruin the magical quality that was WDW. To me, there are no surprises anymore in the world. Do you remember back in the day when Darth Vader declared that he was Luke's father? I still remember the audible gasp in the theater when that happened. That sort of surprise, that type of preexistent ambiguity is almost impossible to achieve. And we all feed into it nowadays. We now know almost everything that is going to happen in WDW today weeks, months or even years before it happens (also cause it takes them that long to build something). Think back to when Disney underhandedly purchased the land for the Florida Project. That wouldn't even be possible cause danlb_2000 would post permits about it no sooner than it happened and the surprise would be lost. People would be flying over in planes taking pictures of the development and posting time lapse construction videos. Spirit (and others) would start leaking out blueprints or ideas that WDW would not want let out and it would be picked apart by people from several different continents who would otherwise not even know each other. There is almost no more mystery in this world. Disney used to be good at that.

Disney is also buying into that technology, obviously, with MDE and MM+. For those that are older, it would almost shock me if they thought that this new-fangled technology was a good thing for WDW. For some of the younger generation, however, I guarantee that they will eat it up. There are some twenty-somthings that work for me that don't even own a television (can you believe that)! They use only their computers/laptops/whatever to do everything now. This fits right in with the "now" generation and I think that is what WDW is aiming for. And that is the aspect of this that goes back to ruining the mystique, or adventure, of visiting WDW. People used to use a book (made of paper!) as there sole planning guide. When my wife and I first went (first trip ever) to WDW in 2009, we used books to plan the trip. I still remember the feeling of awe when we walked down Main Street USA at sunset and thinking "holysh..!" I just don't think that type of reaction is possible nowadays. And that is a shame.
 

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