1986 - The House of the Future: Week 1

[NateD1226]

Really thinking about it now - if we did have Progress City, I'd make it indoors. Same way in Tokyo the castle reveal is cut off, that would avoid the odd placemaking the Castle at the end of Progress City when we'd be expecting the Progress City Hotel model.

What that could enable, is like DLP, to have the hotel at the front entrance and have the monorail or peoplemover go around the park, instead of the train, and have the train saved for an Adventureland/Frontierland type roundabout

That could actually work really well. I just don't want it to seem like a mall as the Tokyo Disneyland entrance area is like borderline mall/warehouse.

I like having the hotel in the front. The more we brainstorm, the more I feel like we are picking little bits from each park and putting them all together (which is really nice IMO).

 

[PerGron]

I like gothic library, but I almost feel like it’ll be too similar to Fantasyland when it comes to a gothic village, plus, I don’t think we want to limit ourselves to literature exclusively in our park message.

Out of the ones gaining traction, I think a Boston/Seaside Village feel would be unique and a lot of fun to work in, but I am up for whatever

 

[D Hulk]

Of the various ideas put forth (ignoring for now the Progress City concept which I’ve championed), presently I am the most intrigued by the Great Library.

On a thematic level it makes our entire park about literature, which is a nice & broad guiding principle. Tie every attraction to a literary work, and play up the Storybook angle. Most of Disney’s animated classics already do this! It’s works well in other lands too, letting us do e.g. Pirates of Treasure Island in Adventureland, or focus on the works of e.g. Wells & Verne in Tomorrowland.

The Great Library entry land could be largely indoors, like Tokyo’s World Bazaar, with some skylight roofing and some beautiful fresco ceilings like in the image above. Tall bookshelves line the walkways. Opened books in storefront windows come to life with animated illustrations...showing the literary influences which inspired Walt Disney’s creations. As we transition to other lands, the library takes on their style...towards Adventureland it resembles the ancient Library of Alexandria, while towards Tomorrowland we feature inventions like Gutenberg’s printing press.

Other details? A great hall reminiscent of the library from Beauty & the Beast. An exterior that is perhaps Gothic, as Space showed above, or is perhaps like the Crystal Palaces of 19th century World Fairs as pictured below. Have a theater venue for a show like Mickey and the Enchanted Book. If we want a headliner attraction (as some players have mentioned), something in the vein of SYWTBAI’s Great Literature Ride surely works.

If this is largely indoors (which lets us do a winter climate location), that impacts the parade route. Tokyo’s hub shows how this can be done well. If we improve upon World Bazaar - basically by making a better framed view of the castle from within the library - we’d have a bold entry land which can nicely influence the rest of the park!

 

[goofyyukyuk]

I like gothic library, but I almost feel like it’ll be too similar to Fantasyland when it comes to a gothic village, plus, I don’t think we want to limit ourselves to literature exclusively in our park message.

Out of the ones gaining traction, I think a Boston/Seaside Village feel would be unique and a lot of fun to work in, but I am up for whatever

I agree with this a lot... Progress City is a lot like Tomorrowland, the Gothic/Lit land is a lot like Fantasyland... I suppose the New England style is like Liberty Square, but Liberty Square isn’t an integral part of any castle park like those other two lands

 

[NigelChanning]

I feel like Progress City could stand apart from Tomorrowland if we went the direction of Paris’s discoveryland or Tomorrowland 2055

 

[goofyyukyuk]

I think the other question with Progress City is what would the land actually be like? Would it be like a literal Main Street in Progress City or something else?

 

[PerGron]

I’ll be honest, Progress City feels like it should be more of a hotel theme than an entrance land. If we did go with it, I don’t know how much the average guest would see the difference between it and our Tomorrowland (or Tomorrowland replacement). To us it’s different, but to the vacationing guests, I can imagine they’d be a bit confused why there are two future lands

 

[spacemt354]

I agree with this a lot... Progress City is a lot like Tomorrowland, the Gothic/Lit land is a lot like Fantasyland... I suppose the New England style is like Liberty Square, but Liberty Square isn’t an integral part of any castle park like those other two lands

I'll say the Bostonian/Colonial Street design though is something I already conceptualized for a project back in 2017, it didn't make the cut for the entrance but I still have the rough drafts

1 - Colonial Street Train Station
2 - Restaurant, Table Service - Oyster Bay
3-9 - Winthrop Market - a walk-through quick service venue with seating and an eclectic variety of small eateries
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3 - The Thinking Cup (coffee shop - not Starbucks haha)
4 - Maria's Pastry Shop
5 - Deli Quick Service (name tbd)
6-7 - Indoor seating, with outdoor park seating in the adjacent courtyard
8 - Chocolate Shop (name tbd)
9 - Johnny Appleseed Fruit Market
10 - Ale House (seaside bar - still debating on this)

The point of the right side of Colonial Street is to have the eateries. Guests on high flow traffic days can walk through all of the eateries (aside from 10 actually if its a bar) pick up their morning coffee and pastry, and then enjoy the park. Or if they are coming in the afternoon, grab a sandwich and go.

The purpose of the left side of Colonial Street is to "keep" guests in the park with Storytime with Ichabod Crane and Rip Van Winkle shows in the courtyard park, shops, and more so guests also buy stuff on the way out. These all connect as well keeping guests inside them and also helping traffic flow for exits.

11 - Storytime with Ichabod Crane
12 - Windwagon Smith Shop
13 - Seaside Flower Shop
14 - Olive Oil Shop
15 - Blacksmith and Armory
16 - Map Shop (with S.E.A. references)
17 - Clothing Shop
18 - Large Clothing/Memorabilia Shop
19 - Parade Exit
20 - Barber Shop
21 - First Aid/City Hall/Information
22 - Restrooms

 

[NateD1226]

I'll say the Bostonian/Colonial Street design though is something I already conceptualized for a project back in 2017, it didn't make the cut for the entrance but I still have the rough drafts

1 - Colonial Street Train Station
2 - Restaurant, Table Service - Oyster Bay
3-9 - Winthrop Market - a walk-through quick service venue with seating and an eclectic variety of small eateries
----------------------------
3 - The Thinking Cup (coffee shop - not Starbucks haha)
4 - Maria's Pastry Shop
5 - Deli Quick Service (name tbd)
6-7 - Indoor seating, with outdoor park seating in the adjacent courtyard
8 - Chocolate Shop (name tbd)
9 - Johnny Appleseed Fruit Market
10 - Ale House (seaside bar - still debating on this)

The point of the right side of Colonial Street is to have the eateries. Guests on high flow traffic days can walk through all of the eateries (aside from 10 actually if its a bar) pick up their morning coffee and pastry, and then enjoy the park. Or if they are coming in the afternoon, grab a sandwich and go.

The purpose of the left side of Colonial Street is to "keep" guests in the park with Storytime with Ichabod Crane and Rip Van Winkle shows in the courtyard park, shops, and more so guests also buy stuff on the way out. These all connect as well keeping guests inside them and also helping traffic flow for exits.

11 - Storytime with Ichabod Crane
12 - Windwagon Smith Shop
13 - Seaside Flower Shop
14 - Olive Oil Shop
15 - Blacksmith and Armory
16 - Map Shop (with S.E.A. references)
17 - Clothing Shop
18 - Large Clothing/Memorabilia Shop
19 - Parade Exit
20 - Barber Shop
21 - First Aid/City Hall/Information
22 - Restrooms

I absolutely love this! It feels and has a charm just like Disneyland's Main Street but very unique and something that hasn't really been fully developed before.

 

[spacemt354]

I absolutely love this! It feels and has a charm just like Disneyland's Main Street but very unique and something that hasn't really been fully developed before.

Thanks! I lived in Boston for 5+ years so that small town style will always have a special place to me

 

[PerGron]

Thanks! I lived in Boston for 5+ years so that small town style will always have a special place to me

I’m from Maine, so we have double New England representation if we go with this theme

 

[spacemt354]

I’m from Maine, so we have double New England representation if we go with this theme

I took the Downeaster Amtrak up to Maine once! Was such a neat place

 

[NigelChanning]

I'll say the Bostonian/Colonial Street design though is something I already conceptualized for a project back in 2017, it didn't make the cut for the entrance but I still have the rough drafts

1 - Colonial Street Train Station
2 - Restaurant, Table Service - Oyster Bay
3-9 - Winthrop Market - a walk-through quick service venue with seating and an eclectic variety of small eateries
----------------------------
3 - The Thinking Cup (coffee shop - not Starbucks haha)
4 - Maria's Pastry Shop
5 - Deli Quick Service (name tbd)
6-7 - Indoor seating, with outdoor park seating in the adjacent courtyard
8 - Chocolate Shop (name tbd)
9 - Johnny Appleseed Fruit Market
10 - Ale House (seaside bar - still debating on this)

The point of the right side of Colonial Street is to have the eateries. Guests on high flow traffic days can walk through all of the eateries (aside from 10 actually if its a bar) pick up their morning coffee and pastry, and then enjoy the park. Or if they are coming in the afternoon, grab a sandwich and go.

The purpose of the left side of Colonial Street is to "keep" guests in the park with Storytime with Ichabod Crane and Rip Van Winkle shows in the courtyard park, shops, and more so guests also buy stuff on the way out. These all connect as well keeping guests inside them and also helping traffic flow for exits.

11 - Storytime with Ichabod Crane
12 - Windwagon Smith Shop
13 - Seaside Flower Shop
14 - Olive Oil Shop
15 - Blacksmith and Armory
16 - Map Shop (with S.E.A. references)
17 - Clothing Shop
18 - Large Clothing/Memorabilia Shop
19 - Parade Exit
20 - Barber Shop
21 - First Aid/City Hall/Information
22 - Restrooms

+Hamilton show (if I may)

 

[NateD1226]

Thanks! I lived in Boston for 5+ years so that small town style will always have a special place to me

I visited Boston last year! It was such a charming city with so much life to it. Definitely would love to live there one day.

 

[Orange Cat]

I know this isn’t exactly what you guys mean when you say a “seaside land”, But...

 

[PerGron]

New England would also give us a leg up on Halloween since, you know, Salem, Massachusetts. We could use Hocus Pocus, Halloweentown, Sleepy Hollow, all of it would fit beautifully in old New England. Christmas is also huge around here, so our holiday events would be well translated

 

[spacemt354]

New England would also give us a leg up on Halloween since, you know, Salem, Massachusetts. We could use Hocus Pocus, Halloweentown, Sleepy Hollow, all of it would fit beautifully in old New England. Christmas is also huge around here, so our holiday events would be well translated

Maybe @pix could get their Nightmare Before Christmas year round attraction?

 

[spacemt354]

I 100% agree with the holiday stuff. In addition - Boston is very literature centric, so the library theme could fit in here as well

The Boston Public Library

 

[spacemt354]

Also we do need someone to act as Mr. Manager for the round.

I'd volunteer to mainly because a lot of folks here are coming off competitions and could use a nice easy transition. Also I'll try to get it so that everyone can do something they like. I don't want to jump too far ahead in the assumption, but a New England theme might enable us to combine multiple other concepts (library, fantasy, etc) into one - and transition to the hub/castle fluidly.

 

[Orange Cat]

I’m starting to warm up on the Boston idea.