1986 - The House of the Future: Week 1

[goofyyukyuk]

I love everything that has been discussed here. While I may be drunk tonight I’m disappointed nobody has mentioned the obvious answer: London street themed to CATS

We can’t let you win twice in a row off of Cats though

 

[AceAstro]

We can’t let you win twice in a row off of Cats though

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it

 

[spacemt354]

Yeah that’s the question... comes back to what I said earlier... if we do something crazy bold, that’s sorta the theme we’re with for the entire competition. If we do something more conservative and maybe easier to bridge between different lands (like Paradise Pier theme or something like that), then we’re not necessarily stuck with a theme yet.
It’s really interesting of course because it was wayyyy easier to take risks in SYWTBAI when it was one-offs, but I really like the idea of building on something, but there is an inherent risk that the theme we choose early is the one we’re staying with.

The first challenge: Ah a nice warmup to get everyone involved

Also the first challenge: this determines the entire trajectory of your park for the season you're welcome

 

[Outbound]

I love everything that has been discussed here. While I may be drunk tonight I’m disappointed nobody has mentioned the obvious answer: London street themed to CATS

not again not again not again not again not again

 

[goofyyukyuk]

The first challenge: Ah a nice warmup to get everyone involved

Also the first challenge: this determines the entire trajectory of your park for the season you're welcome

Exactly!

not again not again not again not again not again

Bad flashbacks... bad memories... can’t go back...

What if we did a Red Dead Redemption park with a Cat Castle in the middle?

 

[Outbound]

The first challenge: Ah a nice warmup to get everyone involved

Also the first challenge: this determines the entire trajectory of your park for the season you're welcome

I agree with this. Like a Soviet Union Disneyland would be really interesting to make but it would also back the whole team into a corner, and that's not very good with so many different talents and personalities. Maybe I'll do it some other time as a standalone project. Cosmonaut Mountain here I come.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

Ok, little late to the game, but here is my pitch:
Who says we need to do American? We've got an entire world of cultures to choose from. Let's do something exotic!

I thinking about a German town, with the main castle being based off of the one in the film Snow White plus influence from real-life castles from the country.

 

[goofyyukyuk]

Ok, little late to the game, but here is my pitch:
Who says we need to do American? We've got an entire world of cultures to choose from. Let's do something exotic!

I thinking about a German town, with the main castle being based off of the one in the film Snow White plus influence from real-life castles from the country.

That’s a really cool idea! Plus, if it’s an alternate timeline, why can’t Euro Disney be in Germany?

 

[Mickeynerd17]

That’s a really cool idea! Plus, if it’s an alternate timeline, why can’t Euro Disney be in Germany?

Bingo! The natural landscape would be incredible to design a park in, like using the hills to create lands in small pockets, making it hard to see into another land, yet not face the issues of AK opening day.

Just imagine: a Casey's Corner, except German style, with beer, bratwurst, and sauerkraut

 

[pix]

Straight up forgot how timezones work again and not even 3 hours later do we have four pages come on dudes it's still the 18th here and I have chronic Dumb Brain Disease™

I will be here in the morning. Ya boi needs some sleep.

 

[Chaos Cat]

That’s a really cool idea! Plus, if it’s an alternate timeline, why can’t Euro Disney be in Germany?

A Germany park could be good; however, I worry about having to deal with the Iron Curtain, since that was still a thing in 1986.

I bring this up because I remember being in a Michael Eisner Quest on Sufficient Velocity where there was one German location considered that we had to reject because it was right next to the Iron Curtain, which gave us not a lot of room to play with. The only reason it was on the table at all was because a government spook suggested it to us.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

Doing some more brainstorming, whatever theme we decide to go with, I really want to see a full fledged attraction (sort of like the Edison Square idea except an actual ride) somewhere in the street.

Continuing with my German Street idea, the architecture I'm thinking of would be something along the lines of this image:

Also, since every castle park disney has ever had always has one solid street, let's make it's more exciting by having a river bisecting the street. The river could hold a either a transportation ride similar to Discovery Boats at AK, or a raft ride through the dark forests.

In regards to shops, I think the street should be divided into different sections representing each area of Germany. Each section would have a unique offering. For example, one section could have a restaurant, another could feature a large shop, a different section could feature a ride as previously mentioned, etc etc.

The park would have to have a train, I mean, what's Germany without trains!? There could be multiple dioramas along the route showcasing either something historical, or regarding the nature of the land.

I'll probably come up with more ideas, but this is what I have so far!

 

[Mickeynerd17]

A Germany park could be good; however, I worry about having to deal with the Iron Curtain, since that was still a thing in 1986.

I bring this up because I remember being in a Michael Eisner Quest on Sufficient Velocity where there was one German location considered that we had to reject because it was right next to the Iron Curtain, which gave us not a lot of room to play with. The only reason it was on the table at all was because a government spook suggested it to us.

In regards to the iron curtain, I was thinking of situating the park around the Rhine River area, which was closer to France then it was to the Iron Curtain, but you bring up a good point.

That got me thinking, somewhere in the park, there should be an exhibit/information spot regarding that since we are setting this in 1986.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

In regards to the iron curtain, I was thinking of situating the park around the Rhine River area, which was closer to France then it was to the Iron Curtain, but you bring up a good point.

That got me thinking, somewhere in the park, there should be an exhibit/information spot regarding that since we are setting this in 1986.

As a follow-up to location, the park could be located near Frankfurt, which is a pretty large city in real life.

 

[Chaos Cat]

As a follow-up to location, the park could be located near Frankfurt, which is a pretty large city in real life.

Funny you should bring up Frankfurt, because I looked up the quest I mentioned and turns out Frankfurt was the location that was rejected. Yeah, turns out that the plot wasn't as small as I remembered it being (if nothing else, at least it wasn't Florence, Italy, which was an objectively terrible location) and the main concern was that the political issues would probably scare off a lot of tourists.

If you're curious, the location we went with on that quest was Lille, France, which was far more open to a Disney park than the other French locations, had no size problems, and gave us the opportunity to name the park "Lille Disneyland," which was way too good of a name to pass up.

 

[DashHaber]

Oh, wow. The ball is already rolling fast. Well, of the ideas mentioned so far, here are ones I like:

• Book theme (it offers a solid core theme, that is of stepping into these stories and maybe even crafting our own story along the way. Maybe design it like a mix of town and library, call it something like Prologue Avenue or Library Lane)
• 1940s Pier (the setting offers plenty of core visuals and elements that we can play around with.)
• Walt's vision of EPCOT (I really like this idea as something that captures the core spirit of a castle park entry land, but through a different lens. Main Street U.S.A. offers warm nostalgia with its charming early-20th century town, while this would offer a warm sense of optimism towards the future. Plus, I can see playing around with some of that 1980s vision of Epcot for this. Maybe call it Progress City.)

 

[mickeyfan5534]

Just double checking... it does have to be a castle park right? Like cut from the same cloth as Disneyland and MK?

Yes.

 

[Brer Panther]

• 1940s Seaside Pier. Like Paradise Pier done well and as an entrance land.
• 1950s/60s Beach Party theme. Like Beach Boys and Gidgit kinda style stuff.
• A library/book theme. Possibly even with a large storybook as an arch leading into the hub as we step into our own story!
• Toys/play theme. Not Toy Story, but a land dedicated to childlike wonder and imagination and games and toys.

- Hollywoodland: The Golden Age, can look to the DCA and DHS entrances for inspiration
- New England Seaside: Set in the 1700s, look to Disney's America for inspiration
- San Francisco Bay: A west coast spin that could offer a unique ambiance with hills and valleys

• Book theme (it offers a solid core theme, that is of stepping into these stories and maybe even crafting our own story along the way. Maybe design it like a mix of town and library, call it something like Prologue Avenue or Library Lane)
• 1940s Pier (the setting offers plenty of core visuals and elements that we can play around with.)
• Walt's vision of EPCOT (I really like this idea as something that captures the core spirit of a castle park entry land, but through a different lens. Main Street U.S.A. offers warm nostalgia with its charming early-20th century town, while this would offer a warm sense of optimism towards the future. Plus, I can see playing around with some of that 1980s vision of Epcot for this. Maybe call it Progress City.)

I like all of these ideas!

 

[NigelChanning]

Sorry I haven’t been super active lately! I’m getting back Into the habit of checking the forums regularly! So far, I like a lot of the ideas. The two that has stood out so far being San Francisco or Walts vision for EPCOT

 

[NigelChanning]

What about a medieval themed land where famous fairy tales come to life. Fantasyland is becoming more and more IP based so what if we took the more classic fairytales and put them into a main-street type land? Like a giant beanstalk coming out of a store or something.