1986: An Imagineering Competition - HYPE THREAD

D Hulk

Well-Known Member
Question of the Day
What is your favorite Fantasyland dark ride?​
POOH’S HUNNY HUNT 🤟

The ride videos don’t do it justice. This ride nails every aspect of a Fantasyland dark ride with effortless charm. The trackless component (still rarely improved upon artistically) makes this an atmospheric experience like the best dark rides. The designers use every available technique - black light, white light, projections, Pepper’s ghost, smells, wind effects, motion platforms, wonderfully-maintained animatronics - as a cohesive whole to perfectly capture that innocent, whimsical Pooh charm.

I want to spotlight my second place choice, Shanghai’s Peter Pan, which improves on its predecessors in every conceivable way. A confession: I actually dislike the other Pans. But Shanghai’s top-to-bottom modern remake corrects every problem (most notably the capacity and ride duration), and truly achieves Pan’s much-lauded flying sensation.
 

DisneyManOne

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After a brief hiatus, the Question of the Day is back!
Which park has your favorite Fantasyland?​
Either Paris or Florida. They're both able to expand upon the "storybook village" aspect found in Fantasylands throughout the world and help establish more of a "world". In Florida, the "village" leads through the forest (Dwarfs/BatB/Mermaid/Pooh/Alice) and towards a place where the circus has come to town; and in Paris, the rivers and gardens help separate the village from the rest of the more "natural" area.

Question of the Day
What is your favorite Fantasyland dark ride?​
Peter Pan's Flight is pleasant and Winnie the Pooh is charming, but my favorite will always be the 1994 Snow White's Scary Adventures. It was able to capture both the light and the dark moments of the classic film, and it was a really beautiful and exciting ride. Plus, it was the first to physically depict the movie's finale, where the Prince awakens Snow White, so I'm very glad to hear that Disneyland will be getting a similar scene, as well.



I love Magic Kingdom's castle, but that's really about it. I enjoy Seven Dwarfs for the kinetic energy it brings to the land, but man the whole thing just feels like such a hodgepodge. The castle courtyard having no actual dark rides is such a huge blow compared to Disneyland's flawless quadrant. The Small World/Peter Pan area is an absolute nightmare. Much has been said about how underwhelming the Beauty and the Beast stuff is especially compared to Tokyo. The Little Mermaid ride is gorgeous but is awkwardly placed behind Mine Train and I always forget it's there. Then you have Storybook Circus which is fine but nothing amazing (at least it's better than DinoRama...) and the really weird Pooh/Mad Tea Party area which SLAMS right into the Tomorrowland Speedway with absolutely no transition whatsoever.

At least you guys have BY FAR the better Tomorrowland ;)
As someone far more familiar with WDW, here is a rebuttal.

I know it's physically impossible, but there's a reason I'd love to have "it's a small world" moved to the other side of the park, if only to clear up the bottleneck. If not that, then just move it up. I know that in the past, I admitted that I'd love to bring Pooh's Hunny Hunt over to Florida, but the OLC deal is there, and the Winnie the Pooh ride we have is, as I said, charming, so I think it'd be easier to just drain the ride, move it up a few inches to get rid of the bottleneck, give it a better exterior, and problem solved!

Frankly, I feel that both Florida and Tokyo have underwhelming Beauty and the Beast areas. Sure, Tokyo's got the better Beast's Castle exterior, but the ride within...yeah, it's not that good.

The reason why the Pooh/Teacups area seems a little off is because Pooh was retroactively added into the "Enchanted Forest" portion of the area (hence why they changed the entrance in 2010), and I think if Wonderland got a few more additions, it could be considered part of the "Enchanted Forest" as well. Likewise, there's a reason all my ideas for improving the modern Magic Kingdom involve replacing the Fantasyland side of the Speedway with a clone of Disneyland's Alice in Wonderland ride. I think the Speedway needs to go. In fact, I'd say Autopia is a deader than disco concept if there ever was one. Tokyo and Hong Kong already got rid of theirs, so I'd say it's high time for the rest of the resorts to get in line. Plus, I'd say turning Cosmic Ray's into something like Tokyo's Queen of Hearts Banquet Hall would help to smooth the transition from the Hub into Fantasyland. But then, where would Sonny Eclipse perform? And what would replace the Speedway on the Tomorrowland side? I'm sure Disney would want to highlight the TRON canopy, so just maybe a path or something?
 

DashHaber

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Question of the Day
What is your favorite Fantasyland dark ride?​
Speaking with MK for my actual experience, I might say The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. It does a good job of its "book report" format in translating the plot from the film into the ride, keying in on some of the most memorable moments and capturing the spirit of them.

I was nearly tempted to say Peter Pan's Flight, because the sensation of flight in it worked well and the ride is a classic for a reason, but seeing the upgrades that other parks have done make me wish I could experience it with a touch-up like that.
 

DisneyManOne

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Speaking with MK for my actual experience, I might say The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. It does a good job of its "book report" format in translating the plot from the film into the ride, keying in on some of the most memorable moments and capturing the spirit of them.
It helps tremendously that it's basically a re-telling of Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day, a featurette which only runs about 25 minutes. Frankly, it's far easier to translate a featurette into a dark ride than a feature. That way, every single story beat can be retold on the ride.

Think about it. The basic plot of Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day is as follows: It's a blustery day, Piglet and Pooh go flying, Owl's house gets tipped over, we meet Tigger, he warns Pooh about Heffalumps and Woozles, Pooh dreams of Heffalumps and Woozles, he wakes up to find the Wood flooded, the animals try to rescue Piglet, and it all ends with a big party. Every single one of those story elements is replicated in the ride.

Compare this to the vastly inferior Disneyland version, as their ride tells the story rather out-of-order. In that version, we go immediately from the blustery day into the flood, then to Tigger and the Heffalumps and Woozles (which, IMHO, is the only part that improves on the Florida original. I love the vibrant colors and wacky sound effects, and I love how "bright" it is compared to the rather dark scene in the original), and the party isn't a "hero party" -- it's a birthday party for Pooh. And admittedly, as good as Pooh's Hunny Hunt is, it doesn't tell the full story, leaving out the flood entirely and going straight from Heffalumps and Woozles to Pooh in the honey tree. But at least there, there's an explanation for it. You see, I've watched a video with subtitles translating the Japanese dialogue, and according to those subtitles, as the ride ends, we hear the narrator talking about how the wind carried Pooh into the honey tree while he was sleeping.

 

Brer Panther

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Heffalumps and Woozles (which, IMHO, is the only part that improves on the Florida original. I love the vibrant colors and wacky sound effects, and I love how "bright" it is compared to the rather dark scene in the original)
I honestly prefer Florida's Heffalumps and Woozles sequence. The neon colors in California's make the entire scene look ugly.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Question of the Day
Who is your favorite Meet and Greet character?​
(Answer retracted from Power of Veto players) ;)

General rule of thumb with me...Male "face" characters are the best. They're super playful/interactive and they don't have the "this girl is potentially creeped out by me" vibe that the princesses do (at least for me as a grown- man who's usually alone in a family theme park :p )
 

AceAstro

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(Answer retracted from Power of Veto players) ;)
What about when you answered it last SYWTBAI? :p


I very much prefer face characters to mask characters as there's so much more room for interaction. That being said, I was THRILLED to get pictures Big Al, Liverlips, and most importantly Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum during 2018's Very Merry Christmas Party.
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My two favorite face character interactions have been...

-Facillier was on the Mark Twain when it was docked, just looking out alone over the river. I approach him and ask if he knows anything about the creepy old mansion on the riverbank. Facillier does a sly chuckle and says "aaah yes, that's the home to my friends on the other side!" This is part of the reason I'm so excited to have a Princess and the Frog E-Ticket literally around the corner from the Mansion.
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-Marry Poppins like a week before Returns came out. I asked her if the Banks children were behaving themselves and without missing a beat she was like "Oh yes! They fly kites with their parents every Sunday, isn't that lovely!?!"
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-I've also had AMAZING interactions with Penelope Toothsome, including one that was very familiar with my home town to the point where she could name individual candy, ice cream, and pie shops.
 

AceAstro

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Sadly, Soul won't be getting a theatrical release. Which sucks because the animation looks really good and I would have loved to seen it on the big screen. On the bright side, it's free!


I am excited. 90% of the movies I watch don't need to be in the theatres. So being able to watch it at home with Subtitles and pausing when I want to go to the bathroom or whatever is amazing!
 

Chaos Cat

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> Unit has been resigned with doing the chores of housemates in the House of the Future.
> Unit presentation to be adjusted accordingly.
> Initialing Maid Mode...
> ...
> "Good mowning, mastew! I have cweawed aww of those diwty-wewty spots fow you! Shaww I get you some tea? OwO"

...I'll see myself out.
 

Pi on my Cake

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Sadly, Soul won't be getting a theatrical release. Which sucks because the animation looks really good and I would have loved to seen it on the big screen. On the bright side, it's free!


I'm sure there'll be a rerelease at some point or theatrical run. There's gonna be a lot of time in 2021 after theaters are safe and open everywhere but before movies are back to regular releases with all the filming delays. I'm expecting rereleases of streaming only stuff or films like Sonic/Onward that had their runs cut short to be sprinkled in with all the finished/delayed movies throughout the year.
 

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