Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[TP2000]

You are right, it all over-complicates something that we have the rather non-elegant answer to. A multiplier and nothing else.

I feel like one change is all I can possibly explain and ask for. I actually don’t think he’s being stubborn, rather what I’m suggesting is confusing him. I can tell it’s like the D+ revenue thing, where it’s not clicking for a few people.

Nailed it!

You are too kind, and are unfortunately too accurate in your assessment. I'm not trying to be stubborn, it's just my pea-sized brain and damp cocktail napkin math seem too easy for me to give up. I thought I was rather clever actually by not just doing a blanket 50% studio take on global box office, but instead doing a more nuanced 60% domestic and 40% overseas take. That seems more informing to me, especially when we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars from both categories. And some mega-budget movies, like The Little Mermaid, do really badly overseas which skews the take quite notably.

 

[Disney Irish]

Nailed it!

You are too kind, and are unfortunately too accurate in your assessment. I'm not trying to be stubborn, it's just my pea-sized brain and damp cocktail napkin math seem too easy for me to give up. I thought I was rather clever actually by not just doing a blanket 50% studio take on global box office, but instead doing a more nuanced 60% domestic and 40% overseas take. That seems more informing to me, especially when we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars from both categories. And some mega-budget movies, like The Little Mermaid, do really badly overseas which skews the take quite notably.

The question is will you learn from it?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

So quiet here when there are no new Disney movies failing.

 

[TP2000]

So quiet here when there are no new Disney movies failing.

Only 10 more days until Thunderbolts! Be there!

Early ‘Thunderbolts*’ Tracking Forecasts Soft Opening At Box Office

Industry box office tracking projections are on the soft side for “Thunderbolts*” — at least in comparison to other Marvel Cinematic Universe movies.

www.forbes.com

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

So quiet here when there are no new Disney movies failing.

At the moment there’s no Disney movies to talk about at all, failure or success. I’m sure it’ll pick back up once Thunderbolts opens and we have new numbers to talk about again.

 

[Prince-1]

Pretty accurate.

 

[Phroobar]

I've got a See's Candy hangover this morning, how about you all? Those chocolate butter eggs get me every year.

Box office for this Easter weekend is late this week, but here ya go gang! Snow White has dropped to 10th place in her 5th weekend out, and The Amateur dropped to 4th place.

We're all painfully aware of the hundreds of millions of dollars that Snow White will lose for Burbank, but The Amateur's 51% drop in its second weekend does not bode well for it breaking even. With it's $60 Million production budget, The Amateur doesn't look like it will reach escape velocity to break even at this point.

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Foreign box office and its first pass is already in for Easter weekend overseas, and Snow White is flatlining at the box office in foreign lands just as quickly as she is in the USA. It now seems a $200 Million global box office is going to be hard to achieve by May.

Perhaps Rachel Zegler's Snow White will mercifully end at $195 Million globally if she's lucky, before The Thunderbolts arrive in theaters two weeks from now?

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Interesting how The King of Kings is holding it's own. I'm sure it will make a profit. It probably had a small budget.

 

[DKampy]

Interesting how The King of Kings is holding it's own. I'm sure it will make a profit. It probably had a small budget.

Kings of Kings will drop big time next week…. It was scheduled to capture the Easter religious crowds

 

[Agent H]

Kings of Kings will drop big time next week…. It was scheduled to capture the Easter religious crowds

Is there really a big enough audience for a film like that over Easter weekend? Especially when you remove the kids that associate Easter more with bunnys than religion. (Not to mention the film probably isn’t appropriate for them anyway?

 

[celluloid]

Pretty accurate.

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Back to the Future is the only true trilogy out of these.

 

[celluloid]

Is there really a big enough audience for a film like that over Easter weekend? Especially when you remove the kids that associate Easter more with bunnys than religion. (Not to mention the film probably isn’t appropriate for them anyway?

I don't think you know what film King of Kings and maybe are confusing it with The Chosen or another live action Biblical movie. King of Kings is an animated kid family hit from Angel Studios.

 

[Agent H]

I don't think you know what film King of Kings and maybe are confusing it with The Chosen or another live action Biblical movie. King of Kings is an animated kid family hit from Angel Studios.

God dang I really need to stop posting this late. I was thinking of the last supper which isn’t coming out till later this year. Sorry.

 

[Baloo124]

So quiet here when there are no new Disney movies failing.

Nothing really going on this week to blame Rachel Zegler for.

 

[Baloo124]

Pretty accurate.

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Jaws never should have been given any sequels. Not because the original was bad... because it was too good.
No other horror besides it and The Exorcist have made a bigger public impact. The Exorcist forcing many people to go to church and read the Bible who otherwise wouldn't. Jaws making people cancel beach vacations or refuse to go into the water altogether. It's hard to wrap your mind around the fact that movies, pure fiction, played such mind games on people that they altered their lifestyles, even briefly. That is a masterclass on how to do powerful storytelling.

 

[Bullseye1967]

Jaws never should have been given any sequels. Not because the original was bad... because it was too good.
No other horror besides it and The Exorcist have made a bigger public impact. The Exorcist forcing many people to go to church and read the Bible who otherwise wouldn't. Jaws making people cancel beach vacations or refuse to go into the water altogether. It's hard to wrap your mind around the fact that movies, pure fiction, played such mind games on people that they altered their lifestyles, even briefly. That is a masterclass on how to do powerful storytelling.

My sister took me to see Jaws when I was 7. We went on a Florida beach vacation the next week.

 

[TP2000]

Interesting how The King of Kings is holding it's own. I'm sure it will make a profit. It probably had a small budget.

Also of note is that there was a whole flurry of Christian movies released the past few weeks for the Easter season; The Last Supper Parts 1, 2 and 3, plus King of Kings as an animated family movie. For my part, I had ABC's color presentation of The Ten Commandments playing on the living room TV in the background for a Saturday night dinner party. I made sure the party stopped briefly to admire Anne Baxter chew up all the scenery and the entire western world creating that ugly golden calf that upset Charlton Moses so much. Pure Easter comedy!

According to Deadline, the budget for King of Kings was only $15 Million. I saw no advertising for it whatsoever, but then perhaps with today's modern AI algorithms they knew to avoid my morally suspect lifestyle and IP address. They probably even know I only unmuted The Ten Commandments for Miss Baxter's best scenes, like the heathen I am.

But that just begs the question why I get endless ads for Taco Bell, when I'm not a marijuana cigarette smoker nor do I have a fondness for horse meat tacos. And yet, my YouTube algorithm is constantly flogging Taco Bell.

Back on topic... only $15 Million to produce King of Kings?! It makes you wonder what Disney spends the extra $185 Million on when they make an animated movie, doesn't it?

Based on a $15 Million production budget, and a marketing budget of $10 Million, it's already profitable.

King of Kings: Production $15, Marketing $10, Domestic $29, Overseas $1 = $5 Million Profit so far

Faith-Based Films Celestial As ‘The King Of Kings’ Sets Opening Record, ‘The Chosen: Last Supper’ Double Dips In Top 10, Again – Specialty Box Office

'The King Of Kings' set a record and, with 'The Chosen: Last Supper', led a faith-based bonanza at the indie film box office this weekend.

deadline.com

 

[Prince-1]

Back to the Future is the only true trilogy out of these.

I think I know what you are trying to say but Back to the Future was not originally planned to be a trilogy. Lord of the Rings is the only movie on that list that was about one story which was told in three separate installments.

 

[Prince-1]

Jaws never should have been given any sequels. Not because the original was bad... because it was too good.
No other horror besides it and The Exorcist have made a bigger public impact. The Exorcist forcing many people to go to church and read the Bible who otherwise wouldn't. Jaws making people cancel beach vacations or refuse to go into the water altogether. It's hard to wrap your mind around the fact that movies, pure fiction, played such mind games on people that they altered their lifestyles, even briefly. That is a masterclass on how to do powerful storytelling.

I agree 100%. Jaws 2 was very meh and Jaws 3 was total crap. I do remember seeing it in 3D when it was originally released and that did not make it any better.

 

[Phroobar]

I agree 100%. Jaws 2 was very meh and Jaws 3 was total crap. I do remember seeing it in 3D when it was originally released and that did not make it any better.

Jaws 3 saving grace was seeing Sea World Florida in the 80s. Oh boy has it changed. I really wish they had built that underwater attraction in the movie. I'd like to see something like that as Seabase Delta at Disneyland.

 

[Phroobar]

Well Jaws 19 is coming but I hear the shark still looks fake.