Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Some interesting comments from Soderbergh on mid-budget films not doing well at the box office -

Steven Soderbergh Says It’s “Frustrating” When Mid-Budget Films Like ‘Black Bag’ Underperform At Box Office: “Not A Good Thing For Movies”

Steven Soderbergh recently reflected on 'Black Bag,' lamenting the dissonance between its critical success vs. its lackluster draw at the box office.

deadline.com

I think the comment saying it’s hard to get people to go to theaters when Netflix releases several movies every month is spot on, there’s simply so much content now a movie really has to stand out to get any attention.

I think streaming has hurt theaters far more than TV, DVD, etc ever did.

The quality has gone down but there’s so much content now there’s never a lack of stuff to watch.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Some interesting comments from Soderbergh on mid-budget films not doing well at the box office -

Steven Soderbergh Says It’s “Frustrating” When Mid-Budget Films Like ‘Black Bag’ Underperform At Box Office: “Not A Good Thing For Movies”

Steven Soderbergh recently reflected on 'Black Bag,' lamenting the dissonance between its critical success vs. its lackluster draw at the box office.

deadline.com

I think if they marketed black bag more like a blockbuster, it may have performed more like a blockbuster. I saw a very few TV ads and was barely aware of it. It wasn’t until I read the description on the AMC app, I realized Fassbender was in it, who I like.

Either I didn’t happen to get to the theater when it first came out, or it’s possible I saw Snow White instead.

With that said, I don’t think it’s a must see in a theater.

If we go on Sunday, I think the best option is The Amateur. We saw the trailer for it the last couple of times we went to the movies. I’d also like to know if The Woman In The Yard is too gross or not!

 

[Agent H]

I like Michael B. Jordan, I think Marvel missed an opportunity with him. He could have been an Alternate Universe version of Black Panther (T'Challa). Who comes to our version of Earth in Wakanda Forever. Instead of going with 100 pound Shuri, who looks like she can't take the Taco Bell Chihuahua.

Taco Bell chihuahua? I’m sorry but what are you talking about?

 

[BrianLo]

Taco Bell chihuahua? I’m sorry but what are you talking about?

A Taco Bell mascot in the late 90’s.

 

[Agent H]

A Taco Bell mascot in the late 90’s.

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I know what it is but I have no clue how shuri looks like it.

 

[easyrowrdw]

I know what it is but I have no clue how shuri looks like it.

The comment seemed to be saying that Shuri looked like she couldn’t beat up a chihuahua

 

[Agent H]

The comment seemed to be saying that Shuri looked like she couldn’t beat up a chihuahua

yeah I see that now. Thanks.

 

[TalkingHead]

Sinners is outstanding, best tentpole-type movie in ages. Its third weekend coincides with Thunderbolts’ opening weekend fwiw.

 

[TP2000]

I've got a See's Candy hangover this morning, how about you all? Those chocolate butter eggs get me every year.

Box office for this Easter weekend is late this week, but here ya go gang! Snow White has dropped to 10th place in her 5th weekend out, and The Amateur dropped to 4th place.

We're all painfully aware of the hundreds of millions of dollars that Snow White will lose for Burbank, but The Amateur's 51% drop in its second weekend does not bode well for it breaking even. With it's $60 Million production budget, The Amateur doesn't look like it will reach escape velocity to break even at this point.

Foreign box office and its first pass is already in for Easter weekend overseas, and Snow White is flatlining at the box office in foreign lands just as quickly as she is in the USA. It now seems a $200 Million global box office is going to be hard to achieve by May.

Perhaps Rachel Zegler's Snow White will mercifully end at $195 Million globally if she's lucky, before The Thunderbolts arrive in theaters two weeks from now?

 

[TP2000]

You are right, it all over-complicates something that we have the rather non-elegant answer to. A multiplier and nothing else.

I feel like one change is all I can possibly explain and ask for. I actually don’t think he’s being stubborn, rather what I’m suggesting is confusing him. I can tell it’s like the D+ revenue thing, where it’s not clicking for a few people.

Nailed it!

You are too kind, and are unfortunately too accurate in your assessment. I'm not trying to be stubborn, it's just my pea-sized brain and damp cocktail napkin math seem too easy for me to give up. I thought I was rather clever actually by not just doing a blanket 50% studio take on global box office, but instead doing a more nuanced 60% domestic and 40% overseas take. That seems more informing to me, especially when we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars from both categories. And some mega-budget movies, like The Little Mermaid, do really badly overseas which skews the take quite notably.

 

[Disney Irish]

Nailed it!

You are too kind, and are unfortunately too accurate in your assessment. I'm not trying to be stubborn, it's just my pea-sized brain and damp cocktail napkin math seem too easy for me to give up. I thought I was rather clever actually by not just doing a blanket 50% studio take on global box office, but instead doing a more nuanced 60% domestic and 40% overseas take. That seems more informing to me, especially when we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars from both categories. And some mega-budget movies, like The Little Mermaid, do really badly overseas which skews the take quite notably.

The question is will you learn from it?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

So quiet here when there are no new Disney movies failing.

 

[TP2000]

So quiet here when there are no new Disney movies failing.

Only 10 more days until Thunderbolts! Be there!

Early ‘Thunderbolts*’ Tracking Forecasts Soft Opening At Box Office

Industry box office tracking projections are on the soft side for “Thunderbolts*” — at least in comparison to other Marvel Cinematic Universe movies.

www.forbes.com

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

So quiet here when there are no new Disney movies failing.

At the moment there’s no Disney movies to talk about at all, failure or success. I’m sure it’ll pick back up once Thunderbolts opens and we have new numbers to talk about again.

 

[Prince-1]

Pretty accurate.

 

[Phroobar]

I've got a See's Candy hangover this morning, how about you all? Those chocolate butter eggs get me every year.

Box office for this Easter weekend is late this week, but here ya go gang! Snow White has dropped to 10th place in her 5th weekend out, and The Amateur dropped to 4th place.

We're all painfully aware of the hundreds of millions of dollars that Snow White will lose for Burbank, but The Amateur's 51% drop in its second weekend does not bode well for it breaking even. With it's $60 Million production budget, The Amateur doesn't look like it will reach escape velocity to break even at this point.

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Foreign box office and its first pass is already in for Easter weekend overseas, and Snow White is flatlining at the box office in foreign lands just as quickly as she is in the USA. It now seems a $200 Million global box office is going to be hard to achieve by May.

Perhaps Rachel Zegler's Snow White will mercifully end at $195 Million globally if she's lucky, before The Thunderbolts arrive in theaters two weeks from now?

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Interesting how The King of Kings is holding it's own. I'm sure it will make a profit. It probably had a small budget.

 

[DKampy]

Interesting how The King of Kings is holding it's own. I'm sure it will make a profit. It probably had a small budget.

Kings of Kings will drop big time next week…. It was scheduled to capture the Easter religious crowds

 

[Agent H]

Kings of Kings will drop big time next week…. It was scheduled to capture the Easter religious crowds

Is there really a big enough audience for a film like that over Easter weekend? Especially when you remove the kids that associate Easter more with bunnys than religion. (Not to mention the film probably isn’t appropriate for them anyway?

 

[celluloid]

Pretty accurate.

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Back to the Future is the only true trilogy out of these.

 

[celluloid]

Is there really a big enough audience for a film like that over Easter weekend? Especially when you remove the kids that associate Easter more with bunnys than religion. (Not to mention the film probably isn’t appropriate for them anyway?

I don't think you know what film King of Kings and maybe are confusing it with The Chosen or another live action Biblical movie. King of Kings is an animated kid family hit from Angel Studios.