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MoonRakerSCM

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Reporting live from Avengers Campus at DCA. There is a meet and greet currently with Captain America... not Captain Falcon.

Hilarious being Captain Falcon is supposed to be the hot thing at this moment.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Casper Gutman said:
If Disney was panicking and Feige was in genuine danger, X-Men would be coming out next year.
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I surmise the only reason this thought has entered anyone’s brains is Perlmutter and Peltz. I can at least accept the logic behind Kennedy that a base of fans feel she is a bad steward of their franchise. Fair. There’s a drop of logic there.

Feige makes no sense. Even if he’s burnt out entirely, if these miracle producers were growing on trees, why could no other studio produce one during the Superhero craze? With arguably bigger franchises. Including internally, Perlmutter failed, despite having the identical sandbox.

Frankly, people are so ridiculous and social media is so insular, that I’m sure people would be arguing to fire Walt Disney. Certainly if he was living through the same distorted standards.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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BrianLo said:
If anyone has a free pass it’s Feige, Kennedy and Cameron for that matter. I assume when someone is going to start calling for his ‘firing’ next.
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Agreed on feige right now for sure. But personally I don't think Kennedy deserves a free pass for star wars. As I've said, her past producing credits speak for themselves. But when you look back on what she's done at Lucasfilm, there's definitely more negative than positive. It's not like there's not a good enough sample size. It's been 13yrs and the output is there to judge as well as the lack of output.

Personally the vast majority of her criticism for how she's handled the company is spot on in my opinion. So I'll give her pass and not discount what she's done in the past like some people are doing. But I think we're well past the point where we can say she wasn't right for lucasfilm.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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Prince-1 said:
It just shows people are unimaginative lemmings. One moron uses Captain Falcon and people froth at the mouth trying to use it.
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Maybe the movie would have done better had it been titled Captain Falcon considering Mackie's comments. ;)

Don't call the creatives that made Captain Fal... er. America unimaginative lemmings, that's not nice. ;)

;) = JK
 
Screamface

Screamface

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Agent H said:
With all due respect how was madam web “bad in a way it was entertaining”? It may be one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen!
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It was entertaining (to me) because its shortcomings are so pronounced. The film stumbles constantly, confounding choices are made in all aspects of its production. It's not a way to view or find amusement for everyone but the film is just absurd and the flaws are so blatant and peculiar that it becomes funny. There's a chaotic joy in watching it stumble spectacularly.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Tha Realest said:
Yeah, let’s get back to talking about whether this is going to limp past $400M WW, and if so, by how much.
FWIW, Sonic 3 earned $486M WW, and $235M domestic.
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Sorry can't use Sonic 3 here that was already done with Mufasa, as Sonic was mostly out of theaters by the time this movie came out.

There will always be some movie that does better than another movie, that is just the nature of the business.

Now will this movie move into its theoretical profitability range, maybe, as that remains to be seen. Will it be seen as a disappointment overall, yes more than likely. But if it does move into profitability during theatrical that will be a small sigh of relief for many at Marvel as they look to Thunderbolts in a couple months and then F4 after.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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erasure fan1 said:
Agreed on feige right now for sure. But personally I don't think Kennedy deserves a free pass for star wars. As I've said, her past producing credits speak for themselves. But when you look back on what she's done at Lucasfilm, there's definitely more negative than positive. It's not like there's not a good enough sample size. It's been 13yrs and the output is there to judge as well as the lack of output.

Personally the vast majority of her criticism for how she's handled the company is spot on in my opinion. So I'll give her pass and not discount what she's done in the past like some people are doing. But I think we're well past the point where we can say she wasn't right for lucasfilm.
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Like I mentioned, I can see the logic. But the measuring stick on KK is not how she lives up to Feige. It’s how she’s doing compared to most external producers.

I’m not saying it’s currently stellar or exceptional, historically she was in partnership with Spielberg. But it is still generally above average. Force Awakens, the last Jedi, Rogue One and Mandalorian are sizeable financial achievements.

Now that said, do I think she’s a good Star Wars steward? Not really, no. She acts far more like a producer with openness to talent than the great orchestrator than Feige has solely figured out. Everyone wants a pseudo creative in the role.

But in terms of producers, if you generally once hit the top earner of the year per decade, you are quite shielded. Maybe the standards aren’t high enough? That’s all I’m getting at, even under Lucas Film her track record is above industry average.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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BrianLo said:
Like I mentioned, I can see the logic. But the measuring stick on KK is not how she lives up to Feige. It’s how she’s doing compared to most external producers.
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For me I think what changes comparing her to other producers is, other producers are not in charge of star wars. When she took the job star wars was as high of a profile ip as you can get. So for me the stage is just a lot bigger. Fair or not, the higher the profile, the less slack you will get.
 
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Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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Tha Realest said:
Yeah, let’s get back to talking about whether this is going to limp past $400M WW, and if so, by how much.
FWIW, Sonic 3 earned $486M WW, and $235M domestic.
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The access media says the break even is 450M (no one knows what it actually costs to make and market).

Disney is powerful enough to keep it in the 4105 theaters and money will trickle in until it passes 450M in my opinion.
 
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