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Seemed more like til 5 or so years10-15 years ago? Yes.
Now? It's better than either American park.
Seemed more like til 5 or so years10-15 years ago? Yes.
Now? It's better than either American park.
It'll open in immaculate condition I'm sure. What I'm worried about is what it looks like in a year after the TV cameras are turned off.I would expect nothing less on this particular project. This is not a project that can be cut, because they want to showcase this one. There is no way when Good Morning America (synergy) presents the ride and Michael Strahan rides it live on TV, there will be one AA malfunctioning, his boat will sink, screen issues, audio issues, etc. It has to be perfect.
This has nothing to do with the park capacity, customer satisfaction or return on investment. This is entirely about the image the corporation.
Oh, come on- modern Disney would never build a brand-new, multi-million dollar attraction and then just leave it to (looks at the now stationary cannons on RotR)... nevermind.It'll open in immaculate condition I'm sure. What I'm worried about is what it looks like in a year after the TV cameras are turned off.
Based on my ride from earlier today, I didn't spot any AA's that are completely motionless. But there are a number that are operating without full range of motion (i noticed a couple that had stuck eyes or mouths), or are a bit misaligned. The only major one that was missing most of its movement was Brer Fox right past the riverboat, it barely moves and is almost static (this is also only one of two places I noticed audio missing). There are a couple of figures that have been removed from the ride outright. One being the hopping rabbit (you can usually still see the figure behind the bush when deactivated/broken, but I think he's missing outright, so is the audio). Another being one of the three alligators in the finale. There may also be a small frog or two as well. But again, i've seen it FAR worse.Do we know if the features on Splash are actually "broken?" Maybe they're being turned off? Obviously lights are an issue, but AAs that aren't moving and audio that isn't playing? IDK
Thanks for sharing! I appreciate your keen eye.Based on my ride from earlier today, I didn't spot any AA's that are completely motionless. But there are a number that are operating without full range of motion (i noticed a couple that had stuck eyes or mouths), or are a bit misaligned. The only major one that was missing most of its movement was Brer Fox right past the riverboat, it barely moves and is almost static (this is also only one of two places I noticed audio missing). There are a couple of figures that have been removed from the ride outright. One being the hopping rabbit (you can usually still see the figure behind the bush when deactivated/broken, but I think he's missing outright, so is the audio). Another being one of the three alligators in the finale. There may also be a small frog or two as well. But again, i've seen it FAR worse.
The worst areas for show problems are in the Laughing Place, starting at the spinning beehives which aren't spinning anymore. Most if not all of the black lights are out here as well, so it's very dark. Brer Bear here is also missing quite a bit of motion too. The fountain effects in the following scene before the final lift are also missing, save for a solitary jet underneath one of the turtles. The soaker jets on the big drop have also been switched off for a long time now, even during the summer (i've personally always hated these myself, so i don't complain about these).
With the exception of that aforementioned alligator, every figure in the finale was present and appeared to have full range of motion (to my eyes at least). Though the riverboat itself was not swaying and the wheel was not rotating. To put it in perspective, i've been on the ride where every single figure on the boat was stationary or barely twitching and with some of the chickens with their heads bent so far backwards they looked headless.
The lighting is actually probably the biggest issue with the ride currently. There's a lot of spotlights missing that are used to illuminate characters or scenes, so things are much darker than they should be. Including some of the aforementioned dark light lamps in the Laughing Place. And in the scenes just before the final lift, there's the opposite problem where it appears the work lights are being kept on. I also think the two shadow projections were not working.
Old age is not the problem here, negligent maintenance is (the corporate/money side of things here btw, not the people doing the work). If proper routine inspections and repairs were conducted in a preventative and proactive manner, the ride could be kept in a condition pretty much 100% consistent with how it looked on opening day.Thanks for sharing! I appreciate your keen eye.
If the AAs are in bad shape (they are old!), how are they going to reuse them in the retheme?
That scene actually looks quite better than it did a few weeks ago. Br'er Fox was completely slumped over lifeless over a barely shaking Br'er Rabbit, and the lights were off on Br'er Bear, who wasn't moving at all.Brer Bear here is also missing quite a bit of motion too.
Now that Bob Iger is back at Disney, is there hope for Splash Mountain to stay the same?
If anything, I think the news just secures a pretty healthy budget for the project. Something that would be far less concerning for us fans.The replacement started life well before Chapek became CEO. It also isn't a secret that Iger is even more against Splash Mountain than Chapek is.
The best that can be hoped for at this point is that the recent claims i've heard about the replacement are accurate. Because again, aside from the salt mine backstory, it sounds much more promising than the initial concept discussed by Jim Hill. Hopefully they don't cut the budget during construction either.
Not likely. The budget is already approved and the project is going to begin very shortly (not sure if they're going to wait until Tron opens or start in January). Budget cuts can still happen during the construction process though. And that is no less likely to happen under Iger as it is under Chapek, he's every bit as cut-happy as Chapek, especially if there's monetary concerns at the top. He cares about the optics of the ride's IP, not the quality of the ride experience itself.If anything, I think the news just secures a pretty healthy budget for the project. Something that would be far less concerning for us fans.
I would assume however, since this is one of the few projects that would be completed in Iger’s 2-year CEO window, he would actually want to deliver quality on it. Not saying any significant creative choices would change at this point, but I think Iger will put a lot more importance toward it compared to Chapek because of this.Not likely. The budget is already approved and the project is going to begin very shortly (not sure if they're going to wait until Tron opens or start in January). Budget cuts can still happen during the construction process though. And that is no less likely to happen under Iger as it is under Chapek, he's every bit as cut-happy as Chapek, especially if there's monetary concerns at the top. He cares about the optics of the ride's IP, not the quality of the ride experience itself.
The initial concepts being tossed around while Iger was CEO were very low budget and called for a removal of of most/all of the animatronics. I was told that the budget actually incrementally went up and up and up after Chapek became CEO. I don't necessarily see this as a direct correlation to Chapek (I hate both Iger AND Chapek). But at the very least he didn't veto it.I would assume however, since this is one of the few projects that would be completed in Iger’s 2-year CEO window, he would actually want to deliver quality on it. Not saying any significant creative choices would change at this point, but I think Iger will put a lot more importance toward it compared to Chapek because of this.
January for Florida most likelyNot likely. The budget is already approved and the project is going to begin very shortly (not sure if they're going to wait until Tron opens or start in January). Budget cuts can still happen during the construction process though. And that is no less likely to happen under Iger as it is under Chapek, he's every bit as cut-happy as Chapek, especially if there's monetary concerns at the top. He cares about the optics of the ride's IP, not the quality of the ride experience itself.
There's no proof this replacement started "well before" February 2020. In fact, the disarray and mixed messages since it was announced suggests otherwise.The replacement started life well before Chapek became CEO. It also isn't a secret that Iger is even more against Splash Mountain than Chapek is.
The best that can be hoped for at this point is that the recent claims i've heard about the replacement are accurate. Because again, aside from the salt mine backstory, it sounds much more promising than the initial concept discussed by Jim Hill. Hopefully they don't cut the budget during construction either.
Imagine believing this.The replacement started life well before Chapek became CEO.
No. Iger was the driving force behind this in the first place lolNow that Bob Iger is back at Disney, is there hope for Splash Mountain to stay the same?
How is it visible? I saw no references to it in the concept art.the salt mine aspect (which appears to be the most visible aspect of the concept art released recently)
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