DisneyFan32
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If before end of 2021 as beginining of COVID-19 pandemic ending if there was no new strain or variant, then we'll be out of the woods next year as no more masks, etc...
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DisneyFan32
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I hope its not 2023/2024 or 2025. My bet is end of 2021 where the beginning of COVID-19 pandemic ending starting as low cases as more people vaccinated before a new variant or new strain gets worse by Spring 2022.
Wendy Pleakley
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*crickets*
TheGuyThatMakesSwords
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When folks understand that there are TWO separate paths, out of this Pandemic....
a)Vaccination, or b)death.
Not our business choosing for others, and we don't need to. Natural Selection has done well, over thousands of years
.Please consider being in "group A'. However? TOTALLY your choice
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lazyboy97o
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Except the mortality isn’t that high. Lots of people don’t die but they do cause disruptions to those who did choose to get vaccinated. This idea that it is wrong for the vaccinated to chose for others but right and noble for the unvaccinated to choose for others is bonkers and backwards.When folks understand that there are TWO separate paths, out of this Pandemic....
a)Vaccination, or b)death.
Not our business choosing for others, and we don't need to. Natural Selection has done well, over thousands of years
Please consider being in "group A'. However? TOTALLY your choice
Roy G. Dis
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Summer of 2022 will be lit. It'll be like the Summer of 2021 we were supposed to be have! (June was a pretty nice time for visiting Wdw).
-vickimouse-
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When folks understand that there are TWO separate paths, out of this Pandemic....
a)Vaccination, or b)death.
Not our business choosing for others, and we don't need to. Natural Selection has done well, over thousands of years
Please consider being in "group A'. However? TOTALLY your choice
You forgot option c) natural immunity post-recovery from Covid infection.
Everyone seems to think that cannot happen, but it can and does.
Rich Brownn
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There's A) vaccination B) death c) recovered d) recovered with permanent organ damage e) recovered but required intense hospilization d) recovered but still in therapy six months later. Definitely choose AWhen folks understand that there are TWO separate paths, out of this Pandemic....
a)Vaccination, or b)death.
Not our business choosing for others, and we don't need to. Natural Selection has done well, over thousands of years
Please consider being in "group A'. However? TOTALLY your choice
Patcheslee
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During the short 1 month period of not having to wear masks at work, coworkers and I discussed how we had to remember to control our expressions again when management was being a pain.
lazyboy97o
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More infectious diseases continued for centuries. Natural immunity is not a viable means and even if it was demands far more of others than vaccination.
hopemax
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Choice A is the only one people can actually make. If they don't choose A then they no longer control which of those other things happens. Nature, genetics and fate do. If people really want the control of the outcome they otherwise are lacking in this situation, choose A.
SteveAZee
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There's also the problem that the unvaccinated aren't just choosing for themselves, they are potentially catching and infecting many others with the virus, continuing the spread and hampering the the end of the pandemic, hurting others, swamping hospitals and stalling economic recovery. Getting vaccination greatly reduces the change of spreading to others.When folks understand that there are TWO separate paths, out of this Pandemic....
a)Vaccination, or b)death.
Not our business choosing for others, and we don't need to. Natural Selection has done well, over thousands of years
Please consider being in "group A'. However? TOTALLY your choice
Thinking it's only about the person making the choice to get vaccinated or not is very similar to the way drunk driving doesn't just affect the driver, it affects everyone else sharing the road.
TrainsOfDisney
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If we really want to reduce the spread of covid, we all need to be doing everything we can. Wearing masks, social distancing, avoiding crowds.
This thing isn’t over yet.
This thing isn’t over yet.
GoofGoof
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I don’t think anyone is forgetting that, but it’s not a plan or an easy way out to rely on natural immunity.
We have about 90M unvaccinated American adults. Maybe 20M have had covid and have some level of natural immunity. So should the plan be to let the other 70M get infected? That’s almost twice as many who have been naturally infected already and that took 18 months. So to ”wait“ for all those people to become naturally immune may take several years and that assumes a variant doesn‘t emerge that reduces or eliminates natural immunity. We are all likely facing a vaccine booster in the near future. How would a booster work for people naturally immune? Do they have to get Cpvid naturally again to jump start their immune system? Isn’t it easier to just get as many people as possible vaccinated? That’s the fastest way to get to a return to normal.
GoofGoof
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I had a good time in August when I visited but I am looking forward to a future trip where we talk about that crazy trip where we all still had masks on in the ride photos. June felt good but delta combined with too low a vaccine rate ruined that. If at first you don’t succeed try, try again. We double down on vaccine efforts and hope to get to the level we need. Here‘s to a mask and distancing and covid free Summer of 2022
DisneyFan32
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Soon future vaccines will be faster than others for future pandemic as the future pandemic should be not problem anymore in the future.I had a good time in August when I visited but I am looking forward to a future trip where we talk about that crazy trip where we all still had masks on in the ride photos. June felt good but delta combined with too low a vaccine rate ruined that. If at first you don’t succeed try, try again. We double down on vaccine efforts and hope to get to the level we need. Here‘s to a mask and distancing and covid free Summer of 2022
EpcoTim
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Vaxx'd or unVaxx'd you can still spread it just the same. In fact, the Vaxx'd are probably more dangerous because we believe we're already in the clear and far less likely to show any symptoms. You can still spread it to grandma though.
Vaccinated People With Breakthrough Infections Can Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says
In an outbreak in Provincetown, Mass., three-quarters of cases occurred in fully vaccinated people. The study's findings suggest that vaccinated people infected with delta can transmit the virus.
www.npr.org
"It also found no significant difference in the viral load present in the breakthrough infections occurring in fully vaccinated people and the other cases, suggesting the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the coronavirus is similar."
And like that guy earlier who blamed the unVaxx'd for his mothers illness, he might want to blame the baby (and consider blaming the Vaxx'd)
"This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC's updated mask recommendation. The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones," (from previous article)
Babies And Toddlers Are Highly Contagious For Covid-19
A new study by Public Health Ontario, finds that infants and toddlers (0-3 years) are less likely to bring SARS-CoV-2 into the home but are more likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 compared with older children (14-17 years).
www.forbes.com
I know people want to push their agendas, but picking and choosing which facts you want to believe and which facts you want to ignore does no one any good. Vaxx'd or unVaxx'd, you have to look at the whole data set or none of it. Spreading non-sense is pointless no matter which side of the VAXX boat you are on.
JoeCamel
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But that is in breakthrough infections which are rare compared to the unvaxed spreading it and clogging up the hospitals. Wrong place to focusVaxx'd or unVaxx'd you can still spread it just the same. In fact, the Vaxx'd are probably more dangerous because we believe we're already in the clear and far less likely to show any symptoms. You can still spread it to grandma though.
Vaccinated People With Breakthrough Infections Can Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says
In an outbreak in Provincetown, Mass., three-quarters of cases occurred in fully vaccinated people. The study's findings suggest that vaccinated people infected with delta can transmit the virus.
"It also found no significant difference in the viral load present in the breakthrough infections occurring in fully vaccinated people and the other cases, suggesting the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the coronavirus is similar."
And like that guy earlier who blamed the unVaxx'd for his mothers illness, he might want to blame the baby (and consider blaming the Vaxx'd)
"This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC's updated mask recommendation. The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones," (from previous article)
Babies And Toddlers Are Highly Contagious For Covid-19
A new study by Public Health Ontario, finds that infants and toddlers (0-3 years) are less likely to bring SARS-CoV-2 into the home but are more likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 compared with older children (14-17 years).
I know people want to push their agendas, but picking and choosing which facts you want to believe and which facts you want to ignore does no one any good. Vaxx'd or unVaxx'd, you have to look at the whole data set or none of it. Spreading non-sense is pointless no matter which side of the VAXX boat you are on.
FanforDisney
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Base on your statement we should shut down WDW, cancel college football, pro football.
JoeCamel
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