Not disagreeing with your point being made in this post. There are a lot of insane beliefs. I just don’t believe the “solution “ is to let it run it’s course and just kill off people. Some of those will be family members or friends and I can’t get on board with it. All this so I don’t have to wear a mask in a store when picking up bananas? There’s worse things in life if our final fight here is because we hate wearing masks.
I hope this is not gonna happen with reinfections and breakthroughs like it's gonna end of the world anytime soon, because we all going to die very soon that is going to be madness of death in the future because I don't want to die very soon as fully vaccinated. We need to vaccinating all people of United States before end of the year.
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Because in uncommon cases we can still carry the variant, and do not want to contribute to overloading hospitals, nor spreading to people who have legitimate reasons they cannot get vaccinated.
And AdventHealth is lying about their capacity and will do just fine, right?
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What does that have to do with the data I posted? The point of my post was to show how similar the Delta outbreak appears to be in different places around the world (I didn't take the time to add India but based on other charts it will be similar) and that the cases aren't likely to increase in perpetuity. Most likely, a peak will be hit within about 3 weeks and the cases will come down again.
In the other instances, did something cause or contribute to the drop in cases? (i.e. masks, lockdowns etc). I genuinely don't know. We can talk how we expect cases to drop back like the others all we want, but in a stubborn state like Florida and when majority of the theme parks are only encouraging masks, it seems like it could cause this to linger longer than everyone else.
For the five thousandth time, there is nothing to "figure out." It is a virus. Viruses spread and infect people and make them sick. All mitigation does is delay the inevitable. You can argue that they bought time until the vaccines were available. Now they are available so there's nothing to buy time for.
Where do you live? I ask because the way the CDC community transmission map keeps changing, I'd be shocked if there was any county that isn't ultra rural does not reach "orange" level within a couple of weeks. The orange and red are rapidly encroaching on the northeast.According to the CDC the R0 of delta is 7-9, up from 2-3 for other varients. That means on average infected individuals infect 7-9 people. That’s why the curves are so pronounced. Vaccinated people have a 10 fold decrease in severe cases but only a 4-6 fold decrease in active disease and those people have the same R0. That’s why the recommendations are the way they are. Glad I don’t have any trips to Florida soon, I would cancel based on that. The only reason I’m not canceling October is that the wave should be over. Yikes, stay safe out there folks.
CDC document warns Delta variant appears to spread as easily as chickenpox and cause more severe infection
The Delta coronavirus variant surging across the US appears to cause more severe illness and spread as easily as chickenpox, according to an internal CDC document.
As far as I'm aware, the UK was reducing restrictions during the spike. India I have no idea but I know that vaccination couldn't explain the drop there.
Wisconsin. Im going to wait for the announcement from CDC offically but if this report is true I’m canceling my August travel immediately. Those numbers are terrifying, and it will be time to hunker down and wait for this wave to pass. Seriously, that will be my official medical opinion. Basically vaccinated people will have the same chance as catching delta as you did of catching of Covid a year ago and infecting others (although thankfully with a far less risk of severe disease.).
This was my “non-medical” interpretation from the cdc “leak” this morning as well…
According to the CDC the R0 of delta is 7-9, up from 2-3 for other varients. That means on average infected individuals infect 7-9 people. That’s why the curves are so pronounced. Vaccinated people have a 10 fold decrease in severe cases but only a 4-6 fold decrease in active disease and those people have the same R0. That’s why the recommendations are the way they are. Glad I don’t have any trips to Florida soon, I would cancel based on that. The only reason I’m not canceling October is that the wave should be over. Yikes, stay safe out there folks.
CDC document warns Delta variant appears to spread as easily as chickenpox and cause more severe infection
The Delta coronavirus variant surging across the US appears to cause more severe illness and spread as easily as chickenpox, according to an internal CDC document.
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You should get vaccinated, you’re right but it’s not a Power Star, you are not invincible and it’s starting to affect kids. Pausing things for a month to have this blow over isn’t the worst thing in the world.Legitimate question ahead
I understand why we are masking again, no questions there. But I do wonder why those vaccinated seem to be in alarm over this development - alarm for themselves.
From reading the reports today - yes, we can now spread this variant as easily as the unvaccinated can, so thus the need for masks which I fully support, but your risk of severe disease is still very, very low. Vaccines are still 90% effective.
Why are we acting now as if suddenly vaccines don't work? They are working exactly as they are supposed to. They taught our bodies to fight Covid and it's working.
If anything, the news today should just prove even more how dumb it is to NOT get vaccinated.